Remarks On The 28.5 Year Saturn Cycle

January 10th, 2009 @ 5:08 pm by Elsa

Astrology in real life

cohen.jpgSince most read the Obese Pisces story, I’ll tell you something else sort of queer. I know my life repeats. It just circles around and the same things occur in the same order.

I have great awareness of this personally and while I can’t say for sure, my guess is that other people experience the same thing thought they may not notice it. So here’s the quirky detail.

When I was working in that bar, it was pure show. It was performance art fueled by bravado but when I got off work I would go home and listen to Leonard Cohen, obsessively.

I’d listen to Songs of Love and Hate and Songs from a Room, specifically. Both are pretty morose and I would listen to them over and over and over, lying in the total darkness. It was a far cry from the energy in the college bar. I was really in my own world when I walked off that stage and my world was dark.

I met the soldier about a year and a half later and by then I was no longer listening to Cohen because by then I’d heard it all. I’d exhausted the music and in fact would not listen to Cohen again for 28 years!

But decades later, Cohen came back up. I listened to his stuff… the old the new and the medium new, over and over and over for about a year and a half. This again was prelude to the soldier (re)surfacing in my life.

I think this is interesting on several levels, mostly I just can’t fathom myself listening to that music and then going to work the way I did but here’s the thing that has me wondering: The soldier and I are taking the path we opted out of last time – this time we will marry, so what does that mean?

Does it create a new cycle? Do things unfold now as they would have then had we made the other choice? And what about all this death?

I concluded the soldier would be killed if I tried to marry him. He concluded the same thing in his way, 30 years later. That is, he thinks he’d have probably been killed in Special Forces had he been married to me. So where does all this dire energy go? Does it cease to exist because we are old? I don’t see how this could be the case.

In other words, I think my life is going to continue to repeat except this time I will have the benefit of having him in it. So this leaves me asking myself what happened after the Obese Pisces era and after the time I spent with the soldier. It should surprise no one to learn I was thrown right back into hell in fairly short order.

I expect the same to happen in this era but don’t really worry about it. I have hell almost completely mapped and if I run into an area where I lack skills, the soldier can surely fill in and it just makes me wonder what God is up to. In other words, I just don’t think the soldier and I go la, la, la into our old age, though we’d like that.

On the contrary, I think we are heading into a time where every skill we have, separate and in tandem will be necessary and when you are talking about people with skills like ours… well this stuff just gets my attention in an eyes wide open fashion.

What do you make of this?



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13 Responses to “Remarks On The 28.5 Year Saturn Cycle”

1.
mudlikesubstance
mudlikesubstance

I canNOT wait until real skillz are in fashion again. Needed, used, appreciated. I want so badly to be appreciated for being oh so capable, and competent and the only one who does that regularily is my SO. The rest of them look at me like “but you’re a girl, you couldn’t have managed THAT”

“but you’re so young, how did you find the time to finish THAT?” Well, I didn’t sit on my bum, I worked. I didn’t watch TV, I read about how to get it done. Oh, real skills be appreciated PLEASE!

As to the next go around, the energy has shifted, as has your experience and perspective. I think that there might be similarities but it is still your choice, your decision, your life. It has layers.

 
2.
Loonsounds
Loonsounds

I am envious because I always Wanted to like Leonard Cohen much more than I actually did. He’s so “8th house” which I find exotic but hard to reach, perhaps because I have Saturn in Scorpio in the 8th and nothing else.

It is fascinating to listen to your stories about the life cycles. Whatever happens good and bad, yes you have the soldier now, and you also have this multitude of fans and friends on your blog, and we want to share it with you in our own small way. This is a really great blog, Elsa, really never a dull moment!

 
3.
c
c

Where does all that death energy go?

The world as we know it is dying. But I won’t go down that philosophical rabbit hole…

We die. We all die.

“Dance Me To The End of Love,” a prophet once asked/demanded/commanded/pleaded.

Those who are able to are blessed.

 
4.
Tam
Tam

I’ve had cycles as well, music included.

I may be way off, but my read on this is that it was very important that both of your children were born just as they are. (Remember, there will never ever be another one of any of us ever again.) We can’t know in this lifetime the impact the three of these children have/are/will make in the world. But the only way for them to arrive, just as they are, was for the two of you to separate.

What happens next? I don’t know. In my cycles, the first time around all but kills me, next time not quite as bad, third time painful but only just so.

I just tell myself that pain is inevitable, misery is optional.

 
5.
kashmiri
kashmiri

What do I make of this? I’m amazed you could listen to that kind of music and go to work afterwards. My Venus/Neptune would go sideways.
Then again I can blame a nervous breakdown from too many listens of Donovan’s song Colours:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX3AnhefltM

 
6.
Dorothy
Dorothy

I believe in fate, and soul-mates, and things happening when they should.

I have also been slapped against the head with random horrors, and complete madness that cannot be explained in any rational way.

So I have tried to learn to live in the moment as much as possible.

Just try to be comfortable with your present happiness, and know that no matter what, you love each other. And one thing I know for sure is that love has a life of it’s own.

 
7.
Deirdre
Deirdre

Going through the wedding fears may earn you psychic access of bionic sort.

 
8.
Elsa
Elsa

“psychic access of bionic sort.”

Deirdre… that is interesting. I’d have not made that connection but can tell you, Pluto transiting my 12th has opened all kind of channels. I like it so much better than Pluto in the 11th / or sadge!

 
9.
Deirdre
Deirdre

Me too.

 
10.
kashmiri
kashmiri

Me too! Pluto in the 12th is all sorts of amazing.

 
11.
aml
aml

how about, harry chapin- all my lifes a circle, i guess you guys are just goin ’round again

 
12.
satori
satori

I don’t know. I’m just glad you keep payin’ your rent everyday here in the tower of song (da doo run run run, da do run run…).

 
13.
Togi
Togi

Does it create a new cycle? Do things unfold now as they would have then had we made the other choice? And what about all this death?

My entire life has been build/destroy…over and over again. It used to agonize me. Mine would be the {symbolic} house in shambles or on fire or lifted off by the tornado and everyone else’s house would be intact. Why? Now I think each destruction helped me make better choices about planning the next structure.

It took awhile to learn this lesson. Finally you get to a point where you learn how to build a foundation that keeps the four walls up. Things might rattle and the dishes might break, maybe the roof will fly off….but the building never totally collapses.

You HAD to go through that stuff to get here. And here is where you need to be because your soul wants you to help people.

 


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