Voice Of Mars: On Women Who Feminize Men Redux
Ask the collective
“I wrote about that on my blog,” I told the soldier. “Again. I wrote about women feminizing men this is and guess what some of the women said?”
“What?”
“They like feminized men because they have more in common with them.”
“They want to have more in common with men? Why not quit waxing their mustaches then?”
Anyone want to field this?

28 Responses to “Voice Of Mars: On Women Who Feminize Men Redux”
Ahahaha… loved this.
H’okay, pokey. Haven’t waxed mine in years anyway — it’s faint enough that I don’t need to, really.
Maureen, I hear you on the chin hairs. Blech!
LMFAO!!!
We shouldn’t shave our pits while we’re at it.
**snorting laughter**
. Sorry. I like the kind that are all boy. Dudes who want to dust and have a couple’s mani-pedi date need more help than I can give them.
Anyone want to field this?
Everybody wants everyone else to be exactly what they want at all times.
max
['Sadly, things often fail to work out that way. Not really sure why.']
I just got in from raking, and was laughing the whole time thinking about this: I once dated a hockey player who used to ask for my help shaving his back. True story!!
Yes, it’s true. We don’t want to be masculine, it’s too gross and dyke-y and is always seen as a negative. (My Virgo asc cried as a 6 yr. old when my mom got my long hair cut short–I have always had a strong aversion to looking masculine in any way or dress.) But a feminized man can be viewed as sensitive and clean, so much less brutish and kinda like us.
BF has a complete body rug and I revel in every inch of him. I’m all smooth and soft and perfumed, and it makes for a very sexy contrast. (He’s Mars in Aries, I’m Venus in Libra.)
My vote is: Men and women are not the same. Vive la difference!!
a feminized man? no thank you! On the outside I look very feminine but on the inside… I usu. get along better with men. I’ve had enough of the feminized, sensitive types
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O I think a woman with a little dude in her can be adorable. Remember Desert Hearts?
By now, someone must’ve brought this up…but there’s also a flip side to this. There are men who actually want to be feminized. I’m not saying every guy out there wants to put on panty hose and lip stick – but a surprising number of men (who are still very much men) do because they seek the sensuality that belongs to a woman. Men love women. They love that evanescent, ethereal charm a woman possesses. They love soft textures, skin, hair, fur, silk; they love the sweet flowery smells of our perfumes and soaps, our warmth and our softness (among our other individual virtues that attract a particular man to a specific woman). Feminization can be a way in which a man is trying to get closer to the object of his desire. It is not so different from a man trying to make love to what he loves most, to feel as sexy as the sexiest thing he can think of – a woman. So I’m saying that some women who feminize men are likely responding to the desire in the man to be feminized; which ultimately comes down to wanting to feel sexy and sensual and beautiful, too.
Moreover, when you live with a man it’s very different from dating him and living separately. Men and women both have masculine and feminine traits in varying proportions. A man and a woman are particularly apt to stay within prescribed gender roles during the courtship. When you’re living with a man, you see that he worries about his appearance, prims and preens and beautifies and even starts looking at your body scrub after a while, wondering if it will make him feel as nice as you feel, too. It doesn’t make him a chick and it doesn’t make the woman he lives with a man-hating bitch. Maybe the guy just likes bubble baths, and if there’s no naked woman around to take one with him, should he be denied the simple pleasure?
Of course, things can get kinkier…Some people play with forced-feminization, to help a man uproot the feeling that he has to be a certain way, to be strong and faultless always, always in control. It is really something to think about, the extent to which men are allowed to feel and engage in the feminine without being labeled perverts or pansies for it. There are many other things to say about this topic but this isn’t a board about female domination…
…or is it?
(I think the website ate my comment…apologies if it posts twice.)
I agree with Max in general – people in general would like others to be their ideal, whatever that may be.
That said, could we not generalize so much about men’s and women’s natures? I’m totally down with whatever preferences any individual has for feminine or masculine traits in their partners. But we all have our own unique charts, yeah? I don’t like the assumption either that “we” women don’t want to look “gross and dyke-y” – for one, I’m sure there are some nice dykes reading this blog, and for two, beauty standards run a wide spectrum. I didn’t shave my legs for years and still don’t shave my armpits, and somehow plenty of men find me attractive. It’s cool if you like your men uber-masculine and your women similarly feminine, but please don’t put that on everyone else.
what are they thinking? I have known many women who want to change their man in some way. I guess it makes sense if the woman can finally get the kind of love they have always wanted. Changing the man is much like changing the way things have always work out for the woman in her life. Trouble is one cant change how things worked out in early relationships with parents in this way. Change other contracts is steering away from individual responsibility to change ones own patterning in life.
kingsley
Not to get derailed on this– but in response to “generalizations”: first, every time we talk about the characteristics of each sign’s being a certain way we are, in fact, “generalizing”. And generalizing, (in general) makes communication more efficient. It’s shorthand. We don’t need to spell out what feminine/masculine is to comprehend what people are talking about. And further, if we are going to say that being feminine encompasses everything but the kitchen sink as long as it is attached to the proper reproductive organs, I have to disagree there.
BTW, I did not say that *lesbians* were ugly. They are also not all dyke-y. But the ones who are, I do not find attractive or feminine in the way most people define it. It was shorthand for a masculanized woman, the opposite of the feminized man we were discussing.
No ire is attached to this, just making a few points.
Well also, men do the same thing to some extent. I was talking to a guy the other day and he said men are simple, all they want is beer, a sandwich and a blowjob and he only likes women who understand that.
Also I think that evolutionary developments need to be explored. A woman initially wants a man who can “protect” her; she wants someone virile and obviously with good, strong, manly sperm. But then once she gets him to stick around it’s better for her to domesticate him. A feminine man is less likely to cheat, more likely to help out with the offspring. But maybe that’s all crock.
Interesting topic! Keep it coming.
It depends what you mean by feminising.
Take for example Eddie Izzard (British stand up comic who is a male transvestite and wears makeup) but whom I consider one of the sexiest men on the planet. He can dress up in a frock if it pleases him but that man exudes a more basic masculinity that is deeply deeply sexy.
Ditto – JOhnny Depp as Captain John Sparrow in Pirates of the Carribean. He wears heavy eyeliner for that role and ladies they swoon.
I think more men should wear eyeliner. It brings out their eyes. It is beautiful. In the same way I enjoy a man who shaves, and has manicured hands, and takes care of his body.
Also some traditional female qualities – being emphatic and compassoionate lister for example, I find deeply attractive in a man.
I think it depends what fires off your own personal sexy mojo, and whether that’s the stereotypical bolshey Marsey Masculinity or a more beautiful Libran thing – that’s a personal choice which I think is more about lust and aesthetics than an issue of control.
I still haven’t figured out what this ‘feminization of men’ means
. My man talks about his emotions, he shaves (everywhere), he uses facial cream and he can cook, but does that mean he is ‘feminized’? I sure as hell don’t think so. And I didn’t ‘DO’ that to him either. He also goes to the pub (a lot), is a workaholic, tends to be singleminded, has a lot of testosterone.
I do know, for example, that if we have a family I will expect him to look after the kids too. Is that feminization (I would say it’s common sense)? I don’t know – if it is I am a feminizor
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Maybe these posts are about something else completely. Not sure.
“A feminine man is less likely to cheat, more likely to help out with the offspring. But maybe that’s all crock.”
I vote CROCK. I’ve seen those Mr. Moms working the women at school bus stop… and vice versa.
yeah, i’m still wondering about what the feminization is supposed to be in one-on-one exchanges myself and have been following this discussion because of it. I saw the societal trend (think drum circles/bradshaw) several years ago where men were supposed to be more “sensitive” and talk about feelings and stuff. i considered the metrosexual trend partly from that, partly from larger acceptance of gay culture as the kids today sometimes switch sides back and forth (gay/straight relaitionships), which you never saw when i was young.
my man (whom i consider well-stocked with testosterone)- do i mother him? i dunno. i wait on his ass, though, but it’s because i want to. i get joy out of doing things for him. if i felt obligated, i’d resent it to high heaven. but as it is, i find myself laughing at my own 50′s housewife routine. it’s ironic.
but is is feminizing? i don’t want or expect him to have soft skin and smell of jasmine and vanillia, for sure! i don’t critisize his “guy interests” nor do i look for him to want or be interested in the same things i am. he’s not me. and that’s good. one of me is quite enough.
regardless of whom you hook up with, though, i learned many years ago it’s bad policy to date potential, let alone fall in love with it.
heh heheheh you got that SO right Elsa. crock! CROCK! They are the WORST! They are CRAFTY.
I don’t know on this but here comes Taurus…just thinking…you know, it really is soooooooo nice to be the one on top once in a while (if not ever time hehehehe)./
I like my men manly. I read about men getting brazillian waxes and was horrified. It makes me think that news stories about declining testosterone among younger American males.
The soldier heard of WOMEN getting brazilian waxes and was horrified. He literally called me up requesting an explanation and the one I gave him did not satisfy.
I have also witnessed an awful lot of ‘feminine’ men who are actually into subtly masculating (is that the right word, opposite of ‘emasculating’ ?)their women by encouraging them to be the ‘boss’ in the household. I have also seen those same woman gradually lose touch with friends and family and grow to feel terribly resentful and angry which further seems to build the masculine perception. I have seen this happen most with men who have a lot of Cancer in their charts, maybe looking for a strong mother figure?
uhm, i like rough edges, thanyouverymuch
I am a men of 45 year old, really look to be feminize by a women. I think i can live my life very happy to be feminze by a women, i have no problem with this. But cant find the womento do it
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