Voice Of Mercury In Aspect To Saturn: Set Up For Failure From The Beginning
Ask the collective
“Failure does not strike like a bolt from the blue; it develops gradually according to it’s own logic. As we watch individuals attempt to solve problems, we will see that complicated situations seem to elicit habits of thought that set failure in motion from the beginning…”
The soldier wrote this as part of a larger piece and it struck me. Is it really possible to predict failure lonnnnnnng before it occurs? I’d say, yes.
How often do you set yourself up to fail?
20 Responses to “Voice Of Mercury In Aspect To Saturn: Set Up For Failure From The Beginning”
I don’t know if you can predict for sure, since people have free will and can try to re-frame their situation. But it is unlikely that people will do that, habits being as tenacious as they are.
But there’s always a chance. As for myself, I set myself up to fail regularly. Mostly by assuming it won’t work out, so I don’t ask, introduce myself, etc. Mercury conjunct Saturn in 12th. But I can and do re-frame my situation sometimes, which means that someone who was predicting the outcome would be wrong sometimes, I think.
Do I set myself up to fail? No. I don’t think I do because I see different possibilities/lessons to learn in the process even if it looks like potential “failure” ahead. (I am a Sun-conjunct-Saturn opp. Jup-Neptune; No Merc-Sat aspects). When failure strikes it still hurts.
i’d have to say sometimes to the question. ’cause a lot of the time, the total difference between failure and success is also when you quit.
mars in scorpio doesn’t give up easily. 
but the general premise, that much success potential can be predicted at the outset based on habitual patterns of behavior, undoubtedly has merit.
i do see this all the time at my weightloss site. you can predict pretty easily who is going to have a lot of difficulty vs. who isn’t based on their approach and attitude, even if you’re controlling for knowledge level.
Something similar has been on my mind for a few days now. I’m realizing I had to learn my lessons. And sometimes I get a little hard on myself for it. “If I could have known then what I know now,” etc . . . but could I have?
I wonder, do we learn our lessons when we’re ready? I mean, how could it be before then?
But to answer the question, I don’t consciously set myself up to fail. If I do, once I become aware of it, I’m outta there! 
I grew up doing this, and had to consciously learn to make different choices to get the results I want. It’s absolutely true. But it’s also true that when a person experiences this phenomenon repeatedly, it sets them up to learn *how* to succeed. Sometimes the best way to learn how to do something well is to study (or experience) all the classic failures first. It gets drilled in over time. Remember that poem about the hole in the sidewalk? Well, the person goes from falling in over and over to avoiding the hole to eventually taking a different path. This is the other (more positive) side of this phenomenon!
“Most people who miss, after almost winning,
should have known the end from the beginning”
- from the Tao Te Ching
AnaBanana, I couldn’t agree with you more!
Not consciously. When things are not working out, I do wonder if and or how I might be sabotoging myself. And having learned about the power of thought, I will examine this. Am I thinking negatively, judging someone or something or myself? And here’s one… sometimes things working out or good luck comes in batches. So if I think this, do I set myself up for this? Does everything move along slowly and interminably for a while and then Wham….direct hit or Lucky seven or something?
I have Mercury conjunct Saturn. Is there any way we can see his whole piece? It’s a really interesting idea.
B
not as much as i used to 
Yikes! But do you or anyone else have any ideas about why it would be MERCURY in aspect to Saturn that would indicate setting one’s self up for failure like that? Or is it the soldier’s Mercury – Saturn that makes him able to perceive that somehow?
B
Goddess is your Scorpio Mars responsible for the fact that you are the ONLY person who has a moving, smiling, eyebrows wiggling smiley emoticon? That astounds me.. And I keep forgetting to ask you!
I don’t really set myself up for failure as much as I lose steam/enthusiasm and give up on things. I have always felt that I could do anything I put my mind to, if I just had more longevity.
Busted, the whole document is Saturn Mercury on many levels. Control your mind. Saturn (failure) due poor thought… etc. And the flip, success via controlling what you think… and say as this is what prompted it to surface.
He heard someone in the news saying things that clearly indicate they are on track to fail. He studies this stuff and this is what brought the document in from the garage. Anyway, he was just reading parts of it. I plan to read it completely prob tomorrow and chances are more will be forthcoming. But i can tell you it is a carefully constructed very studied piece… again Saturn / mercury. He would stand by what he said so he is careful what he says. Apparently it took him months to write..
kashmiri – well, not to trashtalk the power of mars in scorp, but technically speaking, it’s my familiarity with the blogging software which make such feats possible. in other words, type the letters lol in lowercase between two colons to get it yourself.
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More often than I should?
I don’t know, I never thought of it this way. You bet your bottom dollar I’m going to be looking for it now, though.