Mercury (and Venus) in Virgo are tightly square Pluto and the rest of the sky is benign in comparison. Communications are manipulative but a negative connotation to that should not be assigned or assumed.
It is possible that a person’s manipulation of you is desirable (Venus) depending on the person. For example if your body is in a knot, a chiropractor can do some pretty nifty magic via manipulation. It reminds me of when I first got in contact with the soldier in 2003. Pluto was transiting my Sun then and I was having a hell of a time.
I wrote to process my experience and at one point I stated that communicating with him was like standing there naked and having the boils on my body lanced. Boils I didn’t even know I had.
This may sound treacherous but its something you sense. You have to suss out the other person’s motive. Is it to heal? Or kill?
I am up to my neck in a few intense conversations at this time. Everybody seems to know that everyone else is a very sharp instrument however we are all there to heal, not just ourselves the other. So this is possible but yeah. Manipulation is the word of the day.
Is there anyone you trust enough, you’d consciously let down your guard, let them in and allow them to manipulate you?
18 Responses to “Astrology Today – Manipulation”
Yes, but trust is absolutely key in this area. Would it help if Chiron and were involved or maybe Venus?
LOL I had physical therapy today & had a new exercise to help with balance — stand on one foot & she would jab / poke / shove me to make me fall over. Cracked me up.
Yes. I have a wonderful friend who I trust who I’ve had a (often volatile) relationship with.
Well after our umpteenth fight, I told her I was basically through.
Her response? “You obviously have some things that are important for you to say. I’m willing to listen.”
Well, hoooooly shite that changed everything. She really taught me something about myself. Her acceptance of my projection onto her and insecurity was really, really unreal.
I’m glad I allowed myself to be ‘manipulated’ by her…it’s so easy to become convinced you’re on the right track, because admitting otherwise can cause untold chaos. 
(When I began studying astrology I noticed that she was an Aries with an Aquarius Moon, like my Mum…and gee, could I be projecting at all? OUCH!)
I wish I knew someone I could trust like that! My best friends have strong Gemini/Sag influences, and they simply don’t go that deep. I doubt they even know me that well as far as what my character consists of, even though we go back something like 20-30 years. It’s always the surface stuff with these folks.
My massage therapist is a Cancer and I trust her completely with whatever she wants to do to my body, though. However, she is a hippie, and a constantly stoned one at that, so our social stuff doesn’t go beyond her constantly throwing pot luck parties for whatever occasion asking people to bring food and booze and free shit she wants or needs. Never gives back. Ever. Like hell I’m letting her into my psyche.
Guess I’ll be content with being hermetically-sealed and self-contained.
I didn’t think it was that funny, but you are so very welcome! You deserve a laff today.
Thanks Indy, and sorry if I laughed inappropriately It was how you described your therapist that struck me. 
I let someone manipulate me today, out of love. Still processing it and waiting for the outcome. I think there might be healing.
Hey, no prob, sometimes I am inadvertently funny, and that beats accidentally making someone cry. Enjoy, I like being an accidental comedian, happens pretty much every day.
Here’s one for your MT’s pot luck parties Indy!
yes.
it’s been awhile. but yes.
God almightly, I’m just reacting to the picture on the post.. I just came through like, oh, 5 months of lower back pain. And I have been religiously stepping up appointments with my long-term massage therapist. Massage, stretches, he had me doing pretzels on the massage table. I’ve been so frustrated, because I wasn’t getting results. One month ago, he told me and I quote, “you have to believe you’re going to feel better.” And about two weeks later…no pain. None. Indy, I don’t think my massage therapist is the type to smoke pot, but I would gladly light up a joint with him to celebrate this breakthrough!
Sometimes I wish I could twist like a pretzel.
That’s great, Maureen!
NO!
The person I’m most pissed at right now is also having this mess transit their Venus, like me…except theirs is in Pisces, while mine is in Virgo. They’re also closely tied to the fallout of last week. So, because of the transits, I gather that they’re having as rough of a time as me…I can’t get in touch with them, so there’s so chance to even let my guard down. I’m afraid it will, even though it’s firmly up with most other people.
WOW. Last night I had a conversation with a new acquaintance who happens to be a Merc-conjunct-Pluto…
I was feeling really pressured and manipulated by this person whom I barely know… but at the same time it opened me up to new realizations about myself…
Me: I have to draw the line somewhere.
Him: Well, where’s that line?
Me: I don’t know… I have to decide where it is. For my sanity and conscience I need to have lines.
[etc etc etc. I am a Sun-Saturn conj.]
Him: Lines, I don’t believe in lines. I just live. I tell you what I see. I see broken lines in front of me. I see that I can move in anytime I want.
He was actually referring to the broken lines on the street in front of him while he was driving (and I didn’t realize he was being literal until after I yelled at him for suggesting he had the right to muscle in..) and then I realized that I did have “broken lines”…
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