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Saturn In Virgo: Surveillance for Obesity Coming to London? How Far Will The Government Go?

July 24th, 2008 @ 1:29 pm by Elsa

Outtakes and various other sundries

This is rather unbelievable.
Surveillance for Obesity Coming to London?

When Saturn went into Virgo, it was a given that controlling the diet would come into vogue but this government stuff is just… well I just don’t think we are going to be able to stop it is all.

Lloyd Atler writes for Treehugger.com:

In the UK, where they have surveillance for everything everywhere, RCA student and engineer Benjamin Males has designed the Static Obesity Logging Device, or SOLA, which measures the body mass index of passers-by. &;The casing of the device conceals a mass of technologies including an integrated computer, digital and analogue inputs and outputs and an integrated camera. The system is able to remotely calculate Body Mass Index and publish the data via wired and wireless networks.

Read the rest @ Treehugger

I know many who read here are outraged at this but history tells us when stuff like this is introduced, people eventually become accepting of it so here is my question:

How far do you think the government will go when it comes to controlling our health and diet?

Astrology, Outtakes, diet, Health, saturn-in-virgo, 11 comments | Posted at 1:29 pm

11 Responses to “Saturn In Virgo: Surveillance for Obesity Coming to London? How Far Will The Government Go?”

Conny

I would say that in democratic countries the government will go exactly as far as the majority of voters endorse it.

7/24/08 @ 4:36 pm (reply)

kashmiri

I don’t know, but I know there is an epidemic of street violence in London and CCTV changes nothing. You can still have your skull stabbed and surveillance will NOT save your ass!

7/24/08 @ 8:36 pm (reply)

Althera

Huh. I don’t get it. So there are monitors – but no consequences? Is it just the idea that ‘someone is watching your fat’?

If it were me I’d kind of walk by it a lot – to mess up the results.

Frankly, I don’t know if this would DO anything.

I dare not suggest what I think actually would. Because I think the only path to weight loss is through self love. And if you love yourself just as you are – well then that’s just as good.

So making people feel further paranoid is just going to make them panic and try to externally control something that is only resolved within (and maybe resolved to start).

7/24/08 @ 8:50 pm (reply)

Althera

And in regards to the government – my feeling on that is that it is pretty much an empty shell/structure filled and animated(if it’s lucky) by the spirit of the people.

If it isn’t filled by the spirit of the people, then it’s a lot like a dead body.

So – if the government is taking action, follow letters of laws instead of spirit, then it’s just going to end up with more of what it has (structures, beaurocracy, systems) and little new and little of substance fill or operate within those things.

So they can try to control our health / diet, but if they try to do it by taking the spirit (the human people factor) out of the equation, it’s just going to spawn more useless nothing and red tape.

How far it will go? I think that if it takes the human factor out (which things like those monitors do – basically an installation of robot obersvers) – then it will just keep trying to do more of the same until someone gets fed up and realizes they need a new sheriff in town.

I think the world is ripe for a spiritual awakening:)

7/24/08 @ 8:56 pm (reply)

Althera

At least that’s what I think when I see things like this. Ok – sorry for so many posts!

7/24/08 @ 8:57 pm (reply)

Elsa

Althera – always good to see you here so definitely no need to apologize!

7/24/08 @ 9:20 pm (reply)

kashmiri

Althera, are you familiar with Michel Foucault? His work ‘Discipline and Punish’ might be something you’d be interested in. Here’s a wiki link, if the spam filter will allow it, in relation to his work:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

7/24/08 @ 10:26 pm (reply)

Snapdragon

Well that’s a good question: where will it stop.

Good grief. Seems like maybe someone has too much time on their hands…

7/24/08 @ 11:32 pm (reply)

Daemoness

I think governments are already heading into really nasty territory on people determined to be overweight and smokers.

Workers Compensation has denied many claims for repetitive motion injuries and blamed it on over weight and/or smoking. With big business solidly backing this due to it causing them more money, I think we will see some real human rights violations.

It feels to me like we are have rules and regulations smacked down on us left and right and I think it is going to get far worse. The start of Pluto in Cap is feeling a bit too much like Orwell’s 1984.

7/25/08 @ 12:43 am (reply)

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SaDiablo

Big Brother-ish, indeed, Daemoness.

How far will it go? Further than I would like. *le sigh*

7/25/08 @ 10:11 am (reply)

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Althera

Kashmiri – thank you. I had read of the panopticon idea from him, but not the rest of the theory. It was in an article in regards to body image – and how the panopticon was a good metaphor for the nameless faceless “they” whose judgment (according to the article) women often respond to. And about the disempowerment of women in this way.

But the thing with the robot cameras – I don’t care if some joe-shoe beaurocrat is looking at my ass going – ‘Oh! There goes a big one!” Somehow the government being involved actually desexualizes it for me; I could care less what that “they” thinks. But I sure do catch myself judging me in the mirror according to a “they” I can’t even put my finger on.

Interestingly, I think Michele Foucault and Nietzsche both were 10/15 Libras like me. But then I also think that with how calendars and the sky shifts, how significant could that be:)

7/25/08 @ 10:23 pm (reply)