Elsa P the Decoy Catholic On Giving, Using Other People’s Energy And the Venus Neptune Phenomena Of Gifts That Disappear
Astrology in real life
Becca writes on the Pope blog aka my decoy Catholic-ness:
“Didn’t the Soldier think you were Catholic too?”
Becca – Yeah. And then there was the family who gave me an heirloom ring (on the assumption I was Italian, therefore Catholic and going to reform their son). When they found out otherwise, they took the ring back and I mean it came right off my finger.
“We want that ring back. You get that ring and give it back to us….”
The man came to me and told me his mother wanted my ring back so what can a person do? I took it off my finger and gave it to him.
Remember disappearing gifts video? Well here it is again and this video is in line with another thing we’ve been discussing lately, the use of other people’s energy and the concept of putting your own energy out there in trade.
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Please excuse the tears in this. I left them in because they are Venus / Neptune of course. Stephen Arroyo’s book is linked below. So is Leonard Cohen’s Energy of Slaves. I think my 8th house is also vividly displayed here. I get pregnant… easy.
Person-To-Person Astrology: Energy Factors in Love, Sex and Compatibility by Stephen Arroyo
The Energy Of Slaves by Leonard Cohen
Blogs inspired by the person who gifted me “The Energy Of Slaves”
14 Responses to “Elsa P the Decoy Catholic On Giving, Using Other People’s Energy And the Venus Neptune Phenomena Of Gifts That Disappear”
Dear Elsa, Yes, I have a very prominent Neptune, and other than being opposite the moon 4th house, it is also tightly conjunct mercury. You’ve got me thinking about people sometimes either under or overestimating my intellectual/brain power. As you said either the enhancing or obscuring effect of Neptune. On the other hand, moon in 4th house is about my strong feelings for my home and such. Still, I’ve lived in like 38 different abodes in my life, and it looks like there’s no end in sight to this rambling life of mine. Frankly, of course, at this point I really don’t know where “my home” is, and this is kind of painful at times. Is that Neptune working on my moon, ya think?
I have venus (virgo) square neptune (sag) … but I haven’t noticed the disappearing gifts. I will have to think on it though. If it isn’t gifts that disappear, perhaps it is something more Virgo-ey.
You guys, what house would you put ‘gifts’ in? The second? Venus is the significator you say, Elsa, and that makes sense. I am just wondering about the house gifts would fall under.
I was just remembering that Neptune in the second house or Neptune being ruler of the 2nd house in karmic astrology can show someone who was a thief in a past life and here gifts could very well be taken back…”as you sow so shall you reap”.It also warns anyone with the ruler being Neptune of this 2nd house or actual neptune in 2nd house to play by the rules as they will surely be caught this time by doing anything illegal.The ruler and the planet will have some harsh aspects to have these things occur.
Thief? Well the sinner theme is familiar but that’s a new spin. Usually I am tagged a whore or an alcoholic.
Oh wait. I suppose I’ve stolen a heart or two. 
(please don’t take this a disrespect, JD, I’m just funnin’. I contain so much shadow, a little more ain’t nothing to me!
You must have an interesting chart–would love to find the whore or alcoholic aspects in your chart.Mars Square or oppsosition Pluto or Neptune in 5th harshly aspected could state the whore–or jupter RX for the alcoholic in past lives. Some have much to overcome.
JD – I have Neptune in Scorpio on the midheaven (sq Venus). If you go to tags “neptune midheaven” you will read and hear all about my whore-ness, my alleged alcoholism, (I am a teetotaler) how I neglect my children (accusation made when I only had cocker spaniels) and then there are the people who marry my hologram etc.
And now I run with a soldier and you know soldier and whores go way back, LOL. Of course astrologers have been around awhile too…
For the record, I was run out of town on a rail (pretty much literally) for being a whore when I was 13 years old. Uh huh.
My great crime at that time was going to the beach to get some shells for my sister (a Pisces). We were landlocked kids see, and I got to CA. I had made her a promise to come home with shells… and I did but not without being wrapped in this ‘whore” fog.
Anyway, it is all neptune. Neptooooooooon!
i bet evolutionary astrology has some pretty stories to tell about second house pluto and north node 
…not that i’d necessarily debate them.
interesting.
I have Neptune in the 2nd, and I am TERRIFIED of doing anything illegal, because in the back of my mind, I just FEEL that I would get caught. Interesting.
I have Neptune in 2nd, and I am a very, very well-behaved person. Like butter doesn’t melt in my mouth kind of well-behaved. Then again, heavy Saturn would probably do this to you too.
Yes, vanishing gifts here… Neptune in 2nd also.
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I have Venus Conjunct Neptune in the 11th house and I have friends disappear suddenly for no obvious reason;(venus opposes Saturn and Moon in 5th) but never have had any gifts taken back.I don’t see all friends clearly and they are the ones that leave and am actually relieved to have them gone within a few days.They really weren’t friends to begin with but I didn’t see it clearly at first. Tears are just under the surface and have been like this all my life; can cry at the drop of a pin and it saves my sanity.I also have Uranus in 7th and partners and people enter and leave quickly.Have had so many people in my life over the years for short periods and then they move away.