Strange But True – Nothing Good Ever Happens…

June 27th, 2008 @ 4:21 pm by Elsa

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goodbad.jpgHere is the great irony around the soldier’s general stare of happiness. He chocks this up to his past life sin, I credit the cardinal t-square in his chart…

“Do you think anything good will happen?” I asked. “Good for you? Good for us?”

“Nothing good is going to happen to me, but yeah. Good things for us will happen.”

I was momentarily struck. “You don’t think anything good happens for you?”

“No. When has anything good ever happened to me?”

“True. Virtually nothing good ever happens to you…”

I knew this when I got involved with him, you know. I had conversations with friends, “Do you think I should get involved with someone who has all these horrible things happen all the time? Because I can’t see that they’re ever going to stop and if I’m standing right next to him…”

Ha ha ha, as if love gives you a choice. And as if good things happen to me… ::smirk::

Do bad things happen to you? How bad and how often?


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35 Responses to “Strange But True – Nothing Good Ever Happens…”

1.
shell
shell

Not really (knock on wood). I’ve had it hard in certain areas in my life, but I can’t say that I don’t have a fortunate life.

I can think of one thing good that has happened to the soldier….ah-em…..Elsa.

P.S. I didn’t know where else to put this, but I had a proud-rookie astrological moment yesterday. A guy in my class, from the moment I saw him I thought to myself “He is an Aquarius, or at least his ASC is” because he’s this average/tall, skinny, hippie-looking dude. Yesterday he was talking about getting a tattoo on his arm of Bob Saget (dad from Full House) just so people can be like -what the hell?-. I though, okay only an Aquarius would do something as permanent as a tattoo just to get people to react like that. I said “Are you an Aquarius?”, he says “I don’t know, I know I’m a Cock though (Chinese Horoscope), my birthday is February 10th.”

 
2.
Elsa
Elsa

shell – he agrees re: me but fact is so much shit has happened to the soldier – unbelievable stuff, he is quite right in the scheme of things, however it doesn’t bother him and I mean it really doesn’t bother him.

Also, he only just went 28 years without the love of the person who loves him so just stop and think about that.

I have a similar life (regardless of how it appears) though I think it’s to a bit of a lessor degree. Not sure… people in the know may disagree with that. So far I have not found a single soul who can comprehend and process my life so who knows.

Both our lives have been unspeakably hard (other people inform us) because both of us feel pretty damned good anyway.

And when we do get to the water we sure as hell know how to drink!!

 
3.
Cassi
Cassi

Good or bad. It is more of a perspective thing. I have pleeeeenty of uncomfortable stuff going on through out my life but I also have tons and tons and tons of fun. I feel blessed and grateful.

 
4.
Jilly
Jilly

It began when I was born 3 months early LOL and has gone on from there. I am grateful to be here though.

I think I have had a disproportionate amount of “bad” stuff happen. That’s OK — great stuff has happened too. :)

 
5.
Snapdragon
Snapdragon

It’s funny Elsa, I was talking to my mom about this just the other day. I told her that bad things just don’t happen to me.

I guess a couple of bad things have happened (and have caused lots of suffering) but what the heck. For someone that has a hard time staying happy, I just don’t think I’ve had it that bad. Anyway, I’m a firm believer in the “sink or swim” philosophy. You know, that which does not kill you only makes you stronger. I am the very strong person I am today because of the life I had. If my life had been a piece of cake….. who would I be?

 
6.
Lilly
Lilly

I think both good & bad happen to everyone – it’s how you deal with it that matters. After all, you both have each other again, and that’s certainly a good thing, right? :) So, good happens too…you are just both inordinately good at dealing w/the shitty stuff that happens ;) (which is often how things go when you have so much crap hit you all the time…you learn to cope & cope well, otherwise you drown in crap)

 
7.
Gem
Gem

I thought about this when my SO and I got together as I have jupiter in sag and our composite sag is in cap….not nearly as expansive. I would have to say that our luck has been about constructive and solid things….whereas before I would travel a bit more.

 
8.
Jennifer
Jennifer

I’m a chaos magnet, so bad/dramatic/just plain weird things are always happening around me. From ages 18-28 I couldn’t go more than a couple of weeks without some shit hitting the fan somewhere. The chaos magnet-ness has died down some (I can go maybe 3 weeks to a month before drama kicks in), but it weirds me out when I start noticing how quiet and dull things are getting. Then within a few hours of saying that…kaboom! I’m pretty much the human personification of the Tower tarot card.

T-squares will do that, I guess.

 
9.
Conny
Conny

I think that when bad things happen there is always a wrong situation before that leads to the incident. We may not see the situation as bad, or we may just have a vague feeling that something is not right, but cannot change the course (or don’t want to, for any reason). For me, with Venus square Saturn-Neptune it’s been a wrong environment or company most of the times. Venus-Saturn does not allow the exchange with certain kind of people nor being part of certain kind of groups (Saturn=restriction). It’s just toxic, and the bad thing that happens is the proof to it. I also noticed that the more I am going my own way and being with serious people, the less bad things happen, and more good things manifest instead. You learn how to carry the cross (square) without hurting yourself.

 
10.
kashmiri
kashmiri

Um, I’m okay. But Bad things happen to my SO all the time. Other than his Capricorn, he doesn’t have much Cardinal. Or, actually, any cardinal…not sure what to see it as.

 
11.
JJJ
JJJ

As for me, I have had some very good periods, (and it was a significant struggle getting to those good places/times), and some bad periods. And then I had some badder periods, times when all I could do was wander around and regret all the things that presumably had led me here/there. I guess I believe that one makes one’s own paradise/hell. I’ve also had some super good times. Seems like they lasted about a minute, though, in hindsight. Actually, they lasted for years.

And it is surely very different when you’re in a relationship; then the stuff of one, happens to the both, in a significant way. And for any given thing that “happens” there are two different people interpreting just how good or bad it is. Then there is the whole phenomenon of “inner correspondence.” That is, a very good thing may be happening, but somehow you just can’t feel it/own it, the way that you could at some other time. The same is true of bad stuff conversely. At times I think, what with all the shit that my life seems to be turning into, I should be feeling genuinely suicidal, but I don’t. I don’t at all.

I liked the (related) Saturn stuff we were referred to yesterday. I also really liked the Neptune placement and “family victim” connection article at that site (Anyara – Finland).

 
12.
Dim
Dim

Elsa, you and the soldier remind me of a militaristic couple…. you know, you’re an army wife :P But… despite all the harsh things one imagines coming along with that kind of a relationship, you both sound happy together.

My life… is both incredibly fortunate and unfortunate… I put it down to the Jup/Sat interactions in my chart…
Things balance out :)

 
13.
skye
skye

This is interesting question and i feel compelled to answer but in doing so I question my answer. I believe I have a quite a difficult life but then I think who am I to compare what is bad and good. What someone thinks is horrible is nothing to someone’s else horrible, ya know what I mean. I do think though from what I’ve read here Elsa, that you indeed do not have it easy but I can see how people would not see that because depsite the dark depths you plumment you appear cheerful which is probably due to you promient Jupiter/Sag.

Anways depsite my life and im pretty grateful. I know people worse off. People and children living in war and fighting for freedom in third world countries trying to live through a day. Yeah not matter what I think things could be a whole lot worse. Suppose everything is relative.

I really like disscussions like these. Great question.

 
14.
Tam
Tam

I totally agree with Conny. As for myself though I’m a freak magnet. I have very bizarre encounters (stalking) that turn into an emotional and spiritual beating. The individuals tend to be slightly mentally ill, but still function within society. Other than that, I have a beautiful blessed life. Jupiter in Cancer in the First House.

 
15.
Becca
Becca

Overall, bad things don’t happen to me. At least, not very bad, and not many. I once had a friend tell me that the reason why I freak out over little stuff was because life hasn’t shat on me enough, and since she was undergoing treatment for breast cancer while her husband of 20 years was divorcing her for a younger women, I figured she ought to know!

Also: Love the graphic! I am a good witch, thanks for asking.

 
16.
wyrdling
wyrdling

hard to say. you don’t get strong without getting tested, in my opinion, so there’s good in the bad and bad in the good….

i know better than to make any serious plans for farther than a year or two ahead ;) except in very general terms. and, uhm… to not depend too much on anything besides myself. though there’s a couple people who are particularly solid in their unique ways, its a question of how, and how much i’d want to ask…

 
17.
Snapdragon
Snapdragon

Yeah Skye, I agree with what you said. All a person has to do is turn on the news to realize how good we have it.

A few years ago my daughter got appendicitis. I had to take her to the walk in clinic. Then straight to emergency. She was operated on that night, and was in for a few days. I don’t believe I paid a nickel for all the good care that my daughter received. She was completely looked after.

Now if that had happened in a third world country, I guess I probably wouldn’t have her with me today. Course that’s nothing compared to all the shit the goes down in other places, other cities.

 
18.
goddess
goddess

see, when i read this, the first thing i thought is that you two have each other, and that’s obviolusly a gift of the highest order. and while i know you mourn the lost time together, i also expect the experiences you both had independently over those years has allowed you to understand and connect to each other on a level and in ways that would not be possible otherwise. most people cannot even briefly tolerate the depth of shadow you two specialize in.

as far as me, i don’t even know what to call good or bad. i try to be zen. i do have painful experiences, but i don’t like to think of it as bad, because i always want to redirect to something that grows me or helps people somehow. so who’s to say it’s bad if something good grows from it?

compared to some others i’ve come across, though, my life is a freakin’ cakewallk. and i’m constantly grateful for every gift i have.

 
19.
spinner
spinner

very good comment goddess!

 
20.
Elsa
Elsa

Yeah, well you ought to be me looking at his pictures… ya’ll understand he spent almost 3 years with me and then left and married another woman within 3 weeks. Y’all understand this, right?

You understand he just plugged another woman into my slot – she was pregnant within a month having the baby I was supposed have (pre-named… when he was with me).

But yeah. It’s all good LOL. That didn’t hurt a fuckin’ lick.

::rolls eyes::

 
21.
Snapdragon
Snapdragon

yeah, no, we didn’t get the impression it hurt at aaaalll.

back to that other post a few days ago, I bet current advice would have been, “what the hell are you doing, kick his ass out the door!” or something to that effect.

I find myself really appreciating the fact that people on this blog don’t really do that.

I have been sticking with “my” guy for half a year (interested a year or even more) and friends (I know they mean well, but they don’t know him or much of the situation) have advised me to move on.

I am glad to hear that you followed your heart, Elsa. That you made a choice that made you happy. Life is always unfolding, anyway, and who can tell what is right and what is wrong…..except perhaps in hindsight.

 
22.
omie
omie

I think when I take an extreme stance on anything, which does happen, I do take extreme stances, and they could be morally impeccable perfectly groovy positions, but when I take them, extreme (bad) things happen to me. If I find a way to stay open: not have a fixed stance, I don’t get whacked as hard. I’m not sure the astrology on this. Could Chariklo square Jupiter have something to do with it?

I also want to say hello to all the regulars here at Elsa’s bar. You all seem like a very nice group, and is really rewarding to spend some time here. Everyone can have a drink on me.

 
23.
spinner
spinner

Elsa- No I did not know that! Now I am in a better position to understand the video where the animal that looks like a cousin to some sort of goat crossed with an antelope is backing the Rhino up and ready to die in the process!

 
24.
Loonsounds
Loonsounds

Thanks for the drink, Omie, I enjoyed an ice coffee and fuck it that it’s 2 am. Maybe I’ll be like the soldier with the coffee in his bottle and it will put me to sleep.

I like what you said about the extreme stance, do you have a lot of fixed energy in your chart? I do. I never thought of things the way you just expressed them, but I’ll have to think about that.

Oh, and what in God’s name is Chariklo? Thirty years of study of astrology West and East, and twenty years of intense study, and 7 years of gruelingly intense study, and I have managed to have never heard of Chariklo. ~=wince=~

 
25.
Loonsounds
Loonsounds

I thought it was you that got married, Elsa, as he said, “got married within 5 minutes of our break up.”

Rebound marriages never work no matter how much people think they are going to.

Goddess, Leo rising. LOL. Sometimes I am pretty good at getting the polarity but I end up on the wrong end. Interesting.

Bad things, how bad, how often? Basically I had six years in a row which were hellish, between 1998 and 2005, and then, the first part of my life, betwen 0 and 23 also royally sucked. Yall should see my highschool picture, now that is one PISSED ON human being in that picture. I wouldn’t want to go up against me back then, EW!

I can see all these patterns quite well in the Hindu system, and I can see a lot of in the transits and so forth.

 
26.
Snapdragon
Snapdragon

Is it a lot different (the Hindu system), Loonsounds?

 
27.
Loonsounds
Loonsounds

LOL, I certainly meant to say pissed off, not pissed on (although that also fits the bill, metaphorically speaking)… talk about a Freudian slip. Heh heh.

~=i’m not drunk, no, really=~

 
28.
Loonsounds
Loonsounds

Well….snap, it is different in many many ways. But, interestingly, it ends up saying the same things. It just says them differently. but I love it for the dasa system that measures out chunks of your life like that. That is what hooked me, cuz the timing was sooooo right on perfect. James Braha gives a great introduction and so do many others. But his very first book is Western astrology, so don’t get that one if you want to learn Vedic. It’s really cool, don’t feel intimidated by it.

 
29.
Elsa
Elsa

“like a cousin to some sort of goat crossed with an antelope is backing the Rhino up and ready to die in the process!”

For the record, my animal self is considered to a gazelle. That’s an antelope so pretty close.

“Yeah, P is going after that rhino regardless. She’s not afraid of him or the other two rhinos – They are there too,” I explained to the soldier.

“Yeah, well they don’t hit girls. They’ll turn your fuckin’ tour bus over but they are not going to hit a girl!”

http://www.elsaelsa.com/archives/2008/06/28/mercury-in-aries-vs-mercury-in-libra-with-mars-involved-messin-with-the-rhino/

 
30.
Elsa
Elsa

“Rebound marriages never work no matter how much people think they are going to.”

16 years he spent in that marriage. His wife was pregnant within a month. It really is a hell of a story… and he has his side of it.

 
31.
Snapdragon
Snapdragon

Elsa, I lasted just shy 17 years with my ex. I look back and I can’t believe that much time passed. It feels almost like it was a dream. It is certainly reflected in my chart too(not giving up, staying too long, etc.)

I’m sure Spinner is suitably abashed that she indelicately labeled your gazelle-like self a “cousin to some sort of goat crossed with an antelope”.!!!! You know she never meant it. LOL

Omie, I liked your post, and I think that I will have a Long Island, seeing as how you’re buying!

Hey Loonsounds, LOL, I was wondering about that Freudian slip!

 
32.
Ana
Ana

Dim – Me too. Things balance out. Overall, I consider myself fortunate :)

I’ve got a cardinal T-square as well: 7th house Capricorn Moon square 10th house Aries Sun/Venus/Mars conjunct, square 4th house Libra Jupiter/Saturn conjunct. It feels a lot like having someone watching over my shoulder all the time…with a whip. It’s controlling. Life puts me on a particular track, and then busts out the whip if I get off track or refuse to move along at the right pace.

I don’t usually get mediocre experiences, when it’s good it’s great and when it’s bad it’s horrible. And to *some* degree, it is controllable. I know for a fact that I can’t get away with anything – nothing. I pay for every single way I’ve screwed up, no matter how big or small, and it’s usually fast and fierce. Nothing is free, I have to work hard for what I get. But when I work there is grace, in that I get rewarded well. I am grateful for this.

My T-square has made me a much better person than I would have been without it though. I don’t do to others the bad things I’ve experienced – they were an example of what NOT to do. I don’t hold grudges. I try hard not to fuck up and to not let others down. I’m responsible. I keep my promises and try to deserve the trust I get. And with each good thing I get, I put them together and build on them – and from there I get the next good thing.

I think there is no hand dealt in life that cannot be played like a champion. And everyone has a choice in how they play what they’ve got.

 
33.
goddess
goddess

sorry. i wasn’t trying to minimize anything.

 
34.
Elsa
Elsa

Conversation continues today…

“Yeah those other rhinos look over say, boy is she mad at you…”

 
35.
doublecappy
doublecappy

Wow, Ana. Thanks for that comment. It got me thinking. There’s nothing I don’t pay for either. I’m in a hall of mirrors now. And I’ve had some karma things happen -

Anyhow, I am trying more and more to transcend. Every day, I have to make a tiny sliver of progress.

 


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