absurdly paternalistic. i’m not sure that that’s even legal….

Remember when women could be fired for getting married or pregnant? That’s what I think about this crap.

Fat smokers etc. actually save healthcare $$$$ in the long run, because they don’t live as long to generate more and more healthcare costs.

One study

I’d tell someone like that, “Fire me, and see me in court!”

Under no law is this employer action legal.

Much more effective is to offer a bonus to employees who successfully quit smoking.

Money works so much more effectively than a big stick.

Virgo rising and Virgo Moon, and a smoker and pissed right off with the way things are going. I don’t force my health views or lack thereof on others and deeply resent being forced to dance to this new smoking deal that is springing up everywhere. I live in Canada and similar bs is happening here. I pay my damned taxes and I don’t blow smoke in anyone’s face so I wish people and government would find something better to do with their time, like clean up their own shit and leave me the hell alone. I know it isn’t good for me but trying to strong arm me doesn’t go over well with this Taurus. I will quit when *I* am damned good and ready.

Dina-Virgo isn’t necessarily controlling, although it can be. But Virgo’s control (in my experience) is very often self-directed as well. The energy of Sat in Virgo is out there, and can be expressed many ways. The overt controlling is just one of them.

I like the Saturn in Virgo energy when it’s expressed as learning about one’s own health, taking responsibility for my own wellbeing instead of relying on experts, for example, or making responsibly choices that enhance my experience.

Exercise is a great way to express Sat. in Virgo, or healthy eating, or working towards a healthy environment. I think the key is avoiding a punitive, judgemental expression of the Saturn energy. Work can be oppressive or work can enhance our experiences. Our choice.