Leo Woman Wishes Virgo Man Would S*** Of Get Off The Pot: Astrology-Based Advice

May 14th, 2008 @ 3:41 am by Elsa

Dear Elsa,

I am a Leo and my boyfriend of 2+ years is a Virgo. A year into the relationship we moved in together, and have always talked about getting married, having children and starting a family. He constantly talks about it with me, my friends and family and I can feel that inside of me, I am getting close to the point of “s*** or get off the pot”.

I have completely grown out of the “party phase” and am ready to start my life and have a family, which he constantly says he wants too. However, whenever the topic comes up, it’s always about the money. If he gets promoted, it’s not enough; if I get a raise, it’s still not enough. And when I try to budget so we can have a higher surplus at the end of the month, he spends and spends.

I can understand he wants to take care of me and make sure we are okay, but I am beginning to think it’s just excuses.

Is it a Virgo thing or what? Should I trust his word that he wants to or count my blessings and go?

Leo In Waiting
United States

fire signs grand trineDear Leo,

Clearly I can’t make this decision for you and I also can’t tell what is in your boyfriend’s heart but I can tell you I have never been a fan of the “s*** or get off the pot” theory.  S*** or get off the pot, huh? Does that sound loving to you?

Personally I would not want to be married to someone who shit (married me) under a threat I had issued – so if I were you I would discard that train of thought completely and adopt another that is more productive and I have some ideas.

It is clear from your chart and your note that you are impulsive (you have a Grand Trine in Fire) and your boyfriend seems to be cautious, maybe even plodding. It does not sound to me as if he doesn’t love you; it sounds as if he operates differently than you. So the important question to ask yourself is, can you stand this because he is not likely to change all that much.

Now it sounds as if you do appreciate what he offers you (stability and grounding?) to some extent so if you could focus on that and grow your appreciation, you may just have a husband here and a real marriage… eventually.

On the other hand, if this guy’s lack of fire and drive is going to drive you up a wall, then yeah. You’d be better off to find someone who can run like the wind.

Good luck.

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3 Responses to “Leo Woman Wishes Virgo Man Would S*** Of Get Off The Pot: Astrology-Based Advice”

1.
liz
liz

Also talk to him about his security needs/worry. If he wants a family then it’s going to cost money and he’s going to have to save and reduce his spending to support the family in many ways. I think some reality of what it will cost to raise a family is in order AND if you two can meet it then he’s over-worrying and it may be time for you to lead. If you don’t have the money just yet then I’d say give it still some time.
Talk to him about setting a financial goal to start the family. In an ideal world we’d all be rich but in the same world by the time we have the means to have it all we are too old to get it up.

 
2.
Marc
Marc

You’ve talked about how you and your boyfriend have always talked about getting married and having a family and that he brings it up around your family and friends, so it sounds like you both want the same thing. You’ve mentioned that you feel like it’s not really about the money — I suspect you’re right. What it comes down to is you trying to push him into something he’s not ready to do yet.

That raises a couple of questions — first, you wouldn’t be pushing him if there wasn’t some sort of insecurity on your part, so what’s that all about? If you know that your boyfriend also wants marriage and family, which means you’re both headed in the same direction, what’s preventing you from allowing things to unfold as they’re ready?

Second, if your boyfriend seems to be reluctant to move forward, that means there’s something there he’s not comfortable with — the money thing is the easy answer and you’ve rightly noticed that it’s something deeper. Maybe it’s something he’s not aware of yet, or something he’s has not felt safe to address with you yet. Either way, you can choose to help him feel safe to explore and express those unmet needs or you can show him that you will push aside his needs when they are at odds with what you want. Depending on what you choose you can either confirm his fears and unwillingness to move forward or you can show him that there’s nothing to be afraid of because becoming closer to you helps him more free and understood.

 
3.
Loonsounds
Loonsounds

Alternative view point coming up here from Loonsounds. Sounds pretty much like excuses to me, and I know with Virgo it can definitely be about the money for real.

How old is he? Has he been married before? Does he want you to sign a pre-nup? Is he wealthy? Does he have any major transit coming up to his 7th cusp?

Here’s the most important question: In your deepest heart of hearts, at a gut level of intuition, do you feel like he really loves you that way?

I have a some experience with the Virgo dynamic. I referred to it earlier, where I pressured a Virgo (I don’t think it is always wrong to put a little pressure on some dude if you really want it and feel it’s right; maybe do ok with a little boot and no one regrets it…).

In my case, however, I think that [on some level] I knew his love for me was real, but probably not the right kind of love for marriage. He was not enchanted with me, he was deeply critical, pick, pick, pick (ahhh Virgo)

Some day I might find out he did love me that way (in death we find out everything, or such is my dream), but as long as I live I don’t expect I will ever really know what he was thinking as he stood at the end of that aisle.

Anyway, if he really did love me like ideally one might love a wife, it really never showed up in our multiple years of marriage either. To this day, I don’t believe he really did, not that way.

But, there is yet more to the story. Same Virgo man, now he has been living with a woman for at least 7 years, and I know that she desperately wanted to marry him from day one and he just won’t do it, or certainly hasn’t yet.

He and I really don’t talk much anymore, so I don’t know what kind of deal they’ve worked, but he will not give her his name. I am sure he gives her a free place to live. What else is questionable because … it was difficult when he was the sole bread winner.

I realize his unwillingness to marry again is not a flattering statement about me, his ex-wife, (and I accept my part in his seeming aversion…he was never pro-marriage to begin with) but, trust me when I say, his refusal to marry her is about way more than a messed up first marriage.

Here it is: For that particular Virgo, it is FULLY about the money.

I don’t know, maybe you could work out something to make it look like it is economically advantageous for him to marry you, and you might ‘snag’ him or whatever.

But be forewarned; whatever the relationship is now, it would stay that way if you get married, nothing will get any better. Harsh opinion, I know, sorry! I’ve been wrong before!

 


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