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Astrology, Ethics, Timing Of Transits And Counseling Skills

November 2nd, 2007 @ 12:11 pm by Elsa

Astrology in real life

makeup Hans writes on Timing In Astrology And A Visit To The Cemetery In Italy regarding the timing of transits:

“It rarely works for me, for transits. There were a few exceptions, like my Saturn return and when Uranus trampled all over my Sun in 7, but aside from that, I just don’t see it.”

Hans – That is interesting. I can always see it in someone else’s life. It is generally obvious to me but it’s very difficult to try to point things out to people. It’s as if they think I am trying to trick them into believing astrology or crystal balls or whatever else when I do. People wind up feeling unnerved as if I am shifty in some way and it’s just not worth it to bother. It may also be rude.

I don’t tend to wear make-up and when I do, I spend 90 seconds putting it on. I am sure people out in the world note this and have opinions but I am grateful they don’t bother me with them.

If people can’t see a transit manifest in their life, it is probably because they are defended against it and if they are defended against it, there is probably a reason. I just know I stay out of other people’s business unless there is a specific request otherwise and even then I am cautious and I can give you an example why re: the make-up.

I recently met an image consultant. She was effusive and she had a lot of ideas about me; she was a natural at her job. And while I am sure everything she said was right and good and sound, I did not ask for her help and she did not consider my specific psyche when making recommendations so none of it penetrated or did me any good.

For example, I am not going to fix my hair. So if you are a hairdresser, I don’t care how good my hair would look it I fixed it, I am not going to fix it so if you give me anything but a cut I don’t have to fix… well you have just messed me up.

Bottom line, it doesn’t matter how good you are at something if you don’t know when to put the pedal down and in other cases, when it would be much better to back way, way off. Because not everyone wants their hair fixed or to know where every mole on their body is even if you could tell them. I much prefer to let things emerge organically and things do emerge organically.

Any other astrologers (or others in the counseling arts) have thoughts about this?

Astrology, Astrology in Real Life, Astrology, consulting, ethics, 5 comments | Posted at 12:11 pm

5 Responses to “Astrology, Ethics, Timing Of Transits And Counseling Skills”

t-carat

I have heard a person can evolve to the point they just feel the energy internally. I know someone (astrologer / mystically oriented) with the same house cusps and they don’t seem to have experiences, at least ones that register in the outer world and bring out emotional responses that can be seen / understood by others, when “big” transits occur.

I keep trying to see if they’re having similar experiences .. hinthinthint .. but I don’t think it’s so. I think they’re not relating to what’s happening on my end when I reveal a bit of it.

11/2/07 @ 12:24 pm (reply)

Linea

There is a sort of unspoken general rule about the counseling/advising/suggesting professions and I think it is just a good life rule in general: Don’t offer help unless it’s asked for. A lot of people struggle with this principle. Me included.

For instance, let’s say I meet someone and find out their birthday is Dec. 19. I quickly calculate their Sun position in my head (very late Sadge) and cry out without thinking “OH MY GOD! You’ve got Pluto on your Sun!!!!!”

Their mouth drops open and their eyes get wide. “Is that……good?….or bad?” they ask tremulously and clearly it’s not good or I wouldn’t have had that reaction.

So now I’ve got to quickly explain the life-changing properties of Pluto and hope and pray that nothing terrible has happened to them (and usually it’s not terrible, just powerful). In any case I feel like I’m digging myself out of a hole and certainly I haven’t impressed the beauty and wonder of astrology upon this person.

And if I had just kept my mouth shut it could all have been avoided.

11/2/07 @ 1:34 pm (reply)

wyrdling

you need to talk about the things the person wants to know about or you’ll go nowhere.

teaching, for example, is a hell of a lot more relevant (and the students more engaged) when you show how the information can be used in real life. make it something that fits into the mental models they already have, somewhere.

a lot of people assume that everyone wants what they want. and that’s so far from the truth it’s not funny.

11/2/07 @ 5:54 pm (reply)

kashmiri

Ahhhh. This evening I was riding my bike home from work and noticing how my physical body felt in the environment around me (vehicles, people, trees, their relationship to road, where the buildings are, how far from me, etc).
I felt myself as a person who felt differently than she normally does…I felt comfortable recognizing I was a physical body in a physical world. Usually I am so far away. And I thought about what if I was someone who felt it differently than she normally does? What if I was someone who was so grounded in the physical world, the spiritual put her off, somehow? This difference could build compassion, a directed relationship with other people. And it’s important to maintain public unity. It’s actually very important to have that. Worldwide. It begins with me, by being willing to acknowledge I can’t fuck with other people. Emotionally or otherwise.

This is something I feel needs to be incorporated into the world of healing. Develop skills to fragment your thinking: develop the ability to exist elsewhere.

Be someone else. It’s good to spend equal amounts of time outside, as it is inside.
I feel if I could somehow translate this emotion into something harmonious with my everyday life, I really could make other people happy. I feel very committed to my relationship with other people.

I’m not worried that people sap my energy–that’ll happen if it happens. It’s up to me to face it when it comes…I’m not going to blame other people. I wish more people accepted that “good energy” or “good vibes” or “good blah blah”…it’s in unlimited supplies.
I’m tapped in. It’s up to me to develop my relationship with the public (lessons of Saturn in Leo). I have an abundance to share.

11/2/07 @ 6:42 pm (reply)

dreamsAreality

extremely well said kashmiri!

11/2/07 @ 7:13 pm (reply)