Girl Loves Boy, Boy Love Girl, Marriage Planned, So What’s The Problem? Venus Opposite Saturn
Dear Elsa,
I am in love with this boy and he is madly in love with me too. He is the most genuine guy and in fact our families are planning for us to get us married.
But for some reason I have so many fears that haunt me from past. He is being very supportive but yet I keep imagining all negative things and fear that my past will break this and I know I will be shattered. I am not sure as I know I have never been this timid in life. Is this because of Saturn?
Woman in Love
India
Dear Love,
Yes, I guess you could say it’s because of Saturn. You have Venus opposite Saturn and are prone to feelings of insecurity in relationships. However, it is also because of Saturn that you have a boy you characterize as genuine and supportive, so would you like to change this? I don’t think so.
You love this boy and he loves you. Lucky day, yes? So rather than allowing yourself to become immobilized by your fears, how about you work with them? Do this and ultimately you will conquer them while simultaneously becoming a better partner day by day by day. Sound good? Here’s how:
You know you’re afraid, so just accept it. “I am a scared person”. And I can tell you why you’ve never been this timid before. It’s because you’ve never been in LOVE! When you love someone for real, fear is part of the package. What if they leave me, or stop loving me? What if something happens to them? It is normal to wonder and fear these things. But should you let them cripple you? Don’t you dare! Don’t do it to yourself and don’t do it to your boy!
Instead embrace the fear as part of the love. Like this: tell your boy you’re scared to death but you are going to love him anyway. Promise him this. Commit to him and to yourself – and train yourself if you have to!
If you have to get up every morning of your life and look in the mirror and reaffirm your dedication, then do it. Do whatever it takes to meet your goal of conquering your fear and enjoying a real and lasting love with your boy… and I see no reason whatsoever that you won’t get exactly that.
Good luck.
~~
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How To Feel Better On A Rotten Day: Jupiter, Baby! All The Way!
Astrology in Real Life
I do think this has been a terrible day. Everyone I know is struggling mightily and finally this afternoon I was able to do a good deed.
I think this was fairly miraculous not because I don’t do good deeds because I do them all the time. But on a day like today when I am just so infuriated… well let me just put it this way: A brooding Elsa P is not something you want to poke with stick!
But anyway, the clouds parted and per my nature I exploited the sliver of opportunity when it appeared. I did something nice for someone and post my good deed doing, I feel a lot better.
And this reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend last week. She tends towards short (and shocking to me) bouts of depression from time to time and she’d been slipping in this direction for some hours… 36 hours or so, when the pizza man came to her door. “Pizza is here. Just a second.”
I waited on the phone.
“I just tipped him 100%” she said. “I’ve never done that before but what the hell? Why not? Day like today, someone may as well have something good happen. And he probably deserves it. Who is nice to then pizza delivery men anyway?”
“Probably not many.”
“Well I’m glad I did that,” she said. I could tell her experience was settling in. “That made me feel good. I feel a lot better actually. I think that really did me some good, more good than it did him.”
This was 60 seconds post her generous act and you know what that is? It’s Jupiter. Giving generously can’t help but bring you up. This is universal law, have you ever noticed?

The Soldier and P – 36: Are You Still My Boyfriend? Venus, Neptune, Uranus in Love and Relationship
Catch up here – Love, Respect and Do No Harm
Neptune = confusion, dissolving.
Uranus = eccentric friendship.
Venus = love and relationship
And this is how relationships go when outer planets are involved…
“Did we ever break up?” he asked. “I don’t think we ever did manage to break up.”
“I don’t know,” I said. It was 2003 and I didn’t remember.
“Well I don’t think we ever did and I’ve always thought this was strange. How come we never got in a fight? A real fight, I mean. A fight where someone says, I don’t want you anymore. I don’t want to see you. I don’t love you and not only that, you can kiss my ass and go to hell!! Do you know we never had a fight like that? Because we never did.”
“Really? But we separated all the time. How?”
“Oh, well 9 times out of 10, or 10 times out of 10, you just threw me out,” he said.
“But that’s not breaking up?”
“I don’t think so. You never said, I don’t want to see you anymore. You never said, don’t come back tomorrow. You just said get out. Or get the hell out, is what you’d say. And when you said that, I’d just go. I didn’t want to be around you when you were like that anyway, so I didn’t care. She doesn’t want me here, I’m gone. I’d just get on the bike and go wherever. I’d call my friends and we’d go out.” Continue reading The Soldier and P – 36: Are You Still My Boyfriend? Venus, Neptune, Uranus in Love and Relationship
Coping With The Current Saturn Neptune Opposition: The Present Conditions In Your Life – Mars And Now The Moon Involved
The front end, from a few days ago:
Coping With The Current Saturn Neptune Opposition: The Present Conditions In Your Life – Mars Involved and Attacks Misguided
or read all the Saturn Opposite Neptune Blogs here – It’s A Hall Of Mirrors and We’re All In It…
“…it’s nobody’s fault
But we need somebody to burn…“
So said Elvis Costello and he was right about that!
It’s just going to be one of those days for many of as the Moon moves through Leo to join the Saturn, Neptune, Mars mess in the sky.
I find myself angry (Mars) but unable to act. Saturn forces control and Neptune makes it impossible to focus my anger anyway. At whom should I aim?
And why am I angry in the first place?
Saturn will not allow fire under these circumstances! You just have to feel it and… arrrgh!
Can anyone relate?
skip to “…Now the Moon and Venus Involved..”
Sensitive Libra Man Has Rude Narcissistic Boyfriend: Why?
Dear Elsa,
I am a gay male Libra approaching my two and a half year mark with my Libra boyfriend. I understand that I am sensitive, empathetic person who despises vulgarity and cruelty. The only thing I don’t understand is why my boyfriend does not stand for the same things as I do. He is the complete opposite of me: stubborn, rude, vain, shallow, and narcissistic.
Sometimes I honestly believe that he is evil because he is an October Libra and I am a September Libra. I just don’t understand why we clash so much when our sign says we are the ultimate couple. I feel invincible with him, but when it is bad his comments shatter my self worth. I love public affection but he doesn’t seem too big on it. I like to relax with a movie or an article while he likes to party and get drunk with friends. I am a college graduate and he is a high school drop out.
Honestly Elsa, what am I missing here? I can only put up with my significant other’s failures for so long, then I may give up altogether.
September Libra
United States
Dear Libra,
I can’t resolve this for you but I can offer my perspective which may allow you to see things in a different way. First, you are more than just your Sun sign. You have a Moon sign, a Venus sign, a Mars sign… aspects between planets, etc. And this means that people are individuals. One Libra is not like another Libra and if they were, it would mean there were only 12 kinds (signs) of people in this world which is obviously not the case.
Considering this, it’s not reasonable for you to expect your boyfriend to think and feel and act as you do and I am not sure it’s preferable either. Because the relationship you describe is quintessentially Libra, in that the two you balance each other. You are educated, he is not. You are refined, he is not. You want to kiss in public, he does not.
Now I am not telling you that you should not go find someone you have more in common with, because you may want to do that. But if you’re going to take this path, then understand why you’re doing it and make sure it’s what you want.
Because Libra does need balance. And Libra needs something to balance as well. So take the time to imagine what it would be like if in fact your boyfriend was a clone of you. Would it really please you, or no?
Then if you want to get this moving, then stop looking at how you’re different – you’ve done this to death anyway. And stop looking at how you might make him more like yourself too, because this is also fruitless.
Instead focus on the fact that he’s not like you. Focus on the fact he is opposite you in many ways and ask yourself if this serves you and helps you to grow in anyway. Take this tack and I think you’ll find your way and make a decision you can be comfortable with.
Good luck.
~~
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The Soldier and P – 35: Arrogance, Naivete’
Catch up here – Love, Respect and Do No Harm
Mars (anger) Neptune (God) again…
“So I think that about God and I think some other things too,” he said. “Sometimes I think we got separated because we didn’t appreciate what we had. We didn’t value it highly enough. But then I wonder how we’re supposed to value it properly when we’re kids! See what I mean, P?”
“No, not really. I don’t think this stuff, you do. I think other stuff. What? You don’t think we appreciated each other?”
“Well no. I think we did appreciate each other, just not enough. But how could we have known? How are we supposed to know how good we have it when we’ve never had it bad.”
“Huh?” Continue reading The Soldier and P – 35: Arrogance, Naivete’
Her Lover of 4 Years Says He Wants 30 Days Without Contact: Double Scorpio With Saturn, Neptune Transit to Venus in Scorpio
Dear Elsa,
I have been in a relationship with a man for almost 4 years. We have always had a very special connection. We started as friends and our love relationship blossomed naturally. Overall our relationship has been a compatible, loving, fulfilling union.
We have had a few rough spots over the years, but I believe it was mostly because his work has taken him 13 hours away and we have endured a long term relationship for about 2 1/2 years. He is moving much closer soon and we were both excited about this. We have talked about marriage, although he says he is not ready yet – because of the distance.
Now suddenly he has canceled the trip I planned and paid for to celebrate his birthday and he asked me to let him have 30 days space without contact – because he doesn’t know what he wants and he isn’t sure if we have a future together. He says he loves me very much, but doesn’t know what he wants. I am devastated, shocked and confused. It seems so unlike him and I am not clear on what to think of his behavior.
Can you help me?
Six Planets in Scorpio
United States
Dear Six,
Good God. I feel sick for you. I am so sorry and I will try to help but I can tell you right now, I’m not going to be able to call this for you. With the current Saturn Neptune opposition in aspect to your Venus (relationships), you are just not going to know what’s going on (and what has been going on) until the smoke clears.
And I don’t want you to take that in a negative way. In fact, I would beg you not to take that in a negative way. I am not trying to insinuate that your man has been lying to you and you’re going to find out about it… because I have no idea or clue or leaning in that direction whatsoever. I don’t think that is what this is about. I think this is about teaching you faith and if you are willing to learn this, you may find you have an easier time with this than you might have imagined was possible. So here goes:
I think you should give him his 30 days. He probably won’t use them. Virtually your whole chart is in Scorpio which means you have one hell of a lot of focused energy and he is used to this. So if you disappear on him, per his request, I think he will wig out – and pretty quickly.
Not that you should be manipulating him! I am just trying to shore you up so you can do this. Give him his 30 days, that is and here are some other angles that might help. Neptune tricks these are.
So let’s just say this guy has taken you for a ride and he’s done it for 4 years (I don’t believe this). That would mean you have given him 4 years of your life for nothing and considering that, what’s another 30 days just to make sure?
Angle two. You say you love the man. You want to be married to him. You want to be his partner. Well that is supposed to last a lifetime and in the course of a lifetime most people lose their mind at least once. Could this be what is going on? You don’t know. But if you love him, doesn’t it follow you should give him the benefit of the doubt? 30 days is crap if you are talking about love that is real. 30 days is a joke and a drop in the bucket.
Angle three. What possible choice do you have anyway? How can you negotiate something like this? “No you can’t have 30 days! You can have 7 and that’s it!” Does that sound crazy or what?
I could go on but hopefully you can see the strongest play here is to give him exactly what he wants and then deal with the consequences and I can tell you what they’ll be.
One day you will be sure you’ve been duped. The next day you’ll be full of faith, sure it will all work out for the best. The next day you will be terrified and the day after that you will be shored up by forces unseen. Except you won’t be able to time this by the day. Some days you will cycle through all these feeling states very rapidly and why? What does the universe want?
The universe wants you to see that things are out of your control and further that this is in your best interest. Because if people ran their own lives independently they would do all kinds of stupid things. But thankfully the universe intervenes and you are just going to have throw this up and tell yourself (until you believe it) that what is best for everyone will be what results. Which means: if this man comes to you, then he is the man. And if he doesn’t?
It’s because there is a better man.
Good luck.
~~
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The Soldier and P – 34: God, Marriage, Love, Death and Dying
Catch up here – Love, Respect and Do No Harm
On the Mars Neptune theme, how about trying to figure out God’s motive?
“Yeah, I survived SF and I might not have had I been with you,” he said. “I probably would have gotten killed if you were my wife.”
“Really? Why do you think that?”
“Oh, because I’d have been distracted. One of the reasons I never got killed was because I was never distracted. I maintained focus at all times and I am not sure I’d have been able to do that if you were my wife.”
“Why? How am I going to distract you? I’m not there.”
“Yeah, but I’d have been worried about you. I’d have been worried about not getting home to you and that might have fucked me up. See, P, I have always thought that you and I were meant to be together. But obviously God thought otherwise and he’s going to know better than me. And I accept this but I have always wondered what he was thinking when he separated us and this is one of the things I’ve come up with.” Continue reading The Soldier and P – 34: God, Marriage, Love, Death and Dying
Coping With The Current Saturn Neptune Opposition: The Present Conditions In Your Life – Mars Involved and Attacks Misguided
The Coping with Saturn Neptune blogs – various stories and anecdotes start here: It’s a Hall of Mirrors and We’re All In it
I check my lunar returns. I don’t pour over them or anything, but I load them 6 at a time and flick through them looking for anything striking and what strikes me these days is how each of them… well, every month seems a horror.
And it’s not personal! The sky out there is acute and it’s just going to be this way for one and for all in the near future. And as a matter of fact, I don’t know anyone who is not challenged at the moment and you can just tell that the things they’re challenged with are not going to resolve in the short term.
Now they may cope better on Tuesday then they did on Monday, but it’s as if this Saturn Neptune opposition is morphing time and reality for everyone. No one can control anything. No one can nail anything down and it’s stressful.
“It’s like we’re in the middle of the ocean. We’re just out there and then a big wave comes and we get knocked around. Don’t get mad at me about it. There’s nothing I can do. I can’t stop the ocean. I can’t stop these waves.”
That’s what a pal said to me a few days ago and I think he’s right. There’s no one and nothing (Neptune) you can blame or hold responsible (Saturn) for the current conditions in your life. You also can’t complain too much because the man next to you is suffering and struggling too.
And it gives a feeling of “we’re all in this together” which I think is one of the main things the Saturn Neptune opposition is supposed to teach. Boundaries (Saturn) erode (Neptune).
And with Mars in the picture, here currently I am amused at people who are trying to “fight”. If you are attacking someone, it’s very likely to be your own reflection you’re fighting. That’s you that you’re stabbing, not me. I’m not there, I’m ———> here.
It’s like firing a gun underwater. You aim and shoot, but the bullet leaves the gun, gets caught in the tides and comes back and hits you in the head. Whoops!
Can you relate to the feeling of being tossed around in the tides these days? What’s happening in your world?
skip to Mars and Now The Moon Involved…
pictured: Ivan Konstantinovich Aivazovsky, Among the Waves, 1898, The Aivazovsky Art Gallery, Feodosia, Ukraine
Update on the Top 10 Sources of Astrology News… 44 Astrology Blogs and Counting!
Outtakes and Various Other Sundries…
Sorry the Astrology News page was not updating for awhile there. They were tweaking things behind the scenes but things seem back to normal now so check it out.
The site is growing rapidly. A few weeks ago there were 30 bloggers contributing and there are now 44! Betcha we hit 50, soon. This is exciting!
It’s occurred to me this site will encourage more astrologers to blog because if they do, they will have an instantaneous audience.
Check out today’s post by astrologer, Lynn Hayes of Astrological Musings on this subject:
And also read astrologers, John and Susan Townley of AstroCocktail, who were the first to report on this groundswell:
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