Regarding Venus Neptune and sensitivity to music…
What about the scene in Philadelphia where Tom Hanks listens to opera while Denzel Washington suffers / enjoys a conversion, and Hanks a release? The music is blaring, and it sears itself to the Venus Neptune heart.
And then there is the scene in the Titanic where one of the musicians decides to continue playing as the ship sinks. You see his brothers, his fellow musicians hesitate for just a nanosecond before the join him, because art is the only thing and the Venus Neptune heart starts to cry.
And in Bagdad CafÆ’
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Heartbroken Man: Venus and Neptune in the 12th House
Dear Elsa,
I just came out of a horrible breakup with this girl. We had been together for 3 years and she broke up with me.
I tried my level best to get her back – but she has become really cold, and says that she doesn’t care for me. Please help me. I really want to get back with her. It has been almost 5 months now in hell for me…
Will she come back?
Ex-Boyfriend
Dear Ex,
I’m very sorry. I appreciate how much you are hurting, and I know you won’t like this. But I think you should let her go and focus on the future. I’d tell you otherwise if I thought there was a hope in hell – but you said yourself, you’ve done your level best, so I ask you, what else can you do?
Well there is nothing I can think of, so you’ve got to move on. And obviously this will be a struggle, but I will try to help.
First, you’ve got to quit feeding her memory. With Venus and Neptune in the 12th house, you have a rich imagination. You have tremendous ability to fantasize and I am sure you are spending lots of time dreaming her into a goddess.
I do not doubt she had some terrific qualities, and you loved her. But she has also very plainly told you (and shown you), she is not interested. So how does that fit in your fantasy image of who this woman is? It doesn’t.
I wish there were a gentler way to say this, but you simply have to allow reality to seep in. Once you do, this will all break open for you. Know why? Because you’ll have your energy back.
Right now you’re spending all kinds of time and energy infusing her memory with that rich imagination of yours, which is a gift by the way. And when you stop investing in this hologram, what will you do instead? The answer is anything you want.
And I have one other idea. You have a lot of Sagittarius. You’re full of faith and you’re a story teller. So how about you tell yourself a new story about this situation.
“Once upon a time I knew a princess. I loved her and she loved me, but then something happened. She left me, which seemed it was a big mistake. Understanding things always work out in the end, I decided to continue on my journey alone, knowing if we were meant to be together, we would meet a little further down the road…”
Good luck.
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For Molly: Neptune Transit to Venus: Venus Square Neptune – Leonard Cohen
Just Blathering
Astrologer, Molly who writes north-node and runs the node-a-rama message board posted about her current Neptune transit to natal Venus asking for input and other people’s experiences.
Well I just finished that transit and have about 400 stories, and here’s one of them:
Back when I was a kid, (15) I was homeless. I got off the street by becoming a live-in housekeeper. I will have to leave a lot out to keep this blog size, but long story short I was very lonely, especially in the evenings.
But I had pal – a running buddy and she got me a record player and I had a few albums. I had Bob Dylan’s, Planet Waves, which is a very lovesick album, and two Leonard Cohen albums.
Now if you know Cohen, then you know he is way too advanced for a 15 year old, however I got lost in his music anyway. And of course his chart aspects mine very tremendously as you may imagine. But anyway, I would lie in this bed in this stranger’s house…who scared the hell out of me and listen to this music in dark, fantasizing.
Now Cohen is pretty morose but an incredible poet and good looking. My type, that is. I have a thing for Jewish musicians…and I am about three months away from meeting Scott here by the way, who is ‚
The Astrology Of Strip Clubs
Outtakes and Various Other Sundries…
It’s interesting how people come to think there is something to astrology. Most common is when people notice their friend’s birthdays tend to occur in clumps. But here’s a new twist!
She’s an ex-waitress at a strip club noted her regular customers were overwhelmingly, Virgo. Click Check it out..
So what about you? Is the jury still out, or do you see astrology as valid?
How did this come about?
Love and Money: Venus in the 8th House – Redux
Behind The Scenes at ElsaElsa
The gal with Venus in 8th house, from the love and money post, surfaced in the comments with this:
“I have learned my own contours as a woman with this man.”
Is that beautiful or what? Nothing like appreciating the nuance. And this post has haunted me some.
For the record, I work ahead. I am usually at least a week ahead with the advice posts, which are then set to load automatically. And I rarely alter them once I load them, just because of my nature. Done is done. Next!
But I had the idea repeatedly with this one to go back and add a few lines. I thought the post was okay as is, but I wondered if she might have gotten stuck on the supposed critical tone and missed my intention which was to bring her some peace.
Because I felt she already knew everything I wrote in her head. It’s not like it was new. But I thought if I would tweak her perspective, and she started seeing things in this way…well she had a shot at extreme contentment and a level of happiness that would be enviable.
Because this other idea is authentic to her. Not to everyone, but to her. To some people money is everything. And they teach this to their kids as if there is only one shoe and we all have to wear it. Anyway, it was very gratifying to read her comment this morning. She graced the blog.
Conflicted Over Having Children: Scorpio Moon Conjunct Uranus
Dear Elsa,
I’m a lucky person, and the most part my life now is good. My partner and I are getting married shortly and I feel like I’m finally at a place of happiness and nurture and trust. A lot of the future looks nice – we’re young and happy and our cat doesn’t scratch the furniture.
A part of me looks forward to just relaxing a while, without worrying about survival or self-protection… but a part of me is anxious about children. Before I met my partner, I was sure I didn’t want any babies. But he wants kids, and through the course of our relationship I have been getting steadily more broody.
I am a bit conflicted about the idea of motherhood. My own relationship with my mother is extremely conflicted, and I fear that I would be a bad mother to my child because I know how physically/mentally/challenging motherhood can be. I really worry that I would resent my kids, or want to abandon them. I experienced a lot of abandonment as a child, and it’s left scars.
I worry mostly that I won’t really be able to connect emotionally with my child, that I won’t know how to be truly playful with them – because connecting with children is not something that comes naturally to me.
Any advice?
A paranoid Scorpio Moon who really enjoys your blog.
Dear Scorpio Moon,
I am going to be candid and say that I feel you need to resolve this before you marry. Because when a person wants kids… they pretty much want kids. And if the two of you can’t come together on this, well it’s a hell of a compromise to ask in either direction.
Outside of that, in a generic way, please read this old blog “Scorpio Mom” that I wrote for a gal with a new baby who was afraid she would mess up her kid. Because you seem to have some similar feelings. But your case is very different.
Where she has the baby, you are deeply ambivalent about ever winding up in her shoes. And your chart reflects this in many ways, but I want to just hit up the main thing here because it seems possible this could release you.
You mention your Scorpio Moon, but you fail to mention that your Moon (Mommy) is conjunct Uranus (freedom) which dramatically alters the situation. Uranus always wants a lot of space. It cannot suffer restriction, so maybe you can see how this is reflected in your post. If you have kids you’re going to be screwed, blued, tattooed. And to an extent, this is true. But this is the point I want to make:
If you decide to have children, you do not have to be a traditional “Mommy”, however you might define that. And this might be one of the things that has you stuck. Thinking erroneously there is a way “mommies” need to behave.
What I think mommies need to do is be authentic. And if you had children, you would need some time away from them… period. And I don’t think this is a negative thing at all.
I know I need time away from my kids and they know it too. Because I tell them! I communicate this. And I think they benefit. My daughter sees she can have children and still have a life and some independence. My son learns that just because a woman has children, this does not mean she is dead! How can that be bad?
Well it would be bad if I neglected my kids, but I don’t. I just make it plainly clear to them that I am an individual, same as them. And we all have personalities that need to be appreciated and accommodated.
So I just wanted to put this in your hopper. The idea that if you decide to be a mother (Moon), you can make your own rules (Uranus). You can innovate! And I don’t believe your children will suffer. They may say, “My mother was a freak”; but if you love them while you’re doing your own thing, when they say it they’ll be smiling.
Good luck.
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Enron, Skilling and Astrologer, Lynn Hayes
Outtakes and Various Other Sundries…
Last night the AMF and I watched Enron – The Smartest Guys In The Room
. Although it’s a very good film, if I had it to do over again, I think I’d pass since watching it made me physically ill. In fact, it’s the next day and I still feel sick.
But I found this article on Jeffrey Skilling by astrologer, Lynn Hayes and I wanted to link it because it’s very good. It’s very professional and I admire her for that, because personally, I’d have had to call it, “Portrait of a Bastard” or some such thing so you see what mean.
But check out Lynn Hayes. She’s got a bit on Brokeback Mountain as well. Here.
Remember Bad Temper – Mars Opposite Venus / Run, Lola, Run?
Outtakes and Various Other Sundries…
This gal with a bad temper wrote me in November, last year. I advised her to run and I wasn’t all that nice about, really. In February she started training for a triathlon. For charity! The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, specifically, so how cool is that?
And though I didn’t know it at the time, turns out this is Marly, a frequent commenter on ElsaElsa. So Go, Marly, Go! And if you want to support her, it’s easy to do. Click here.
And I also wanted to say, it’s really nice to hear how some of these things turn out. Occasionally the people who asked the question on one of the advice blogs surface in the comments. But more often they post me privately.
Private is private, so it stays that way. But I think in the future I will post back and ask permission to update their situations on the blog. Because it’s often very interesting how things turn out, or progress and I would like this to be a regular feature here.
What do you think?
Nina, I never ask people for birth data anymore. Anyone I meet eventually finds out I am an astrologer and most people offer their chart with a list of questions. And if they don’t, I leave it alone because birth data exposes a person. To me, it’s like asking to see someone’s underwear. It’s really none of my business unless they want to show it to me! Birth data is something you trust someone with.
However, if a birth date comes out in any way shape or form, I will definitely grab my ephemeris and look someone up. Also, if I was going to date someone, or looking for a lover, this would be a different story.
What business do I have sleeping with someone who does not trust me with their chart? That just wouldn’t be my kind of lover. I mean, what are you going to do? Hide while you have sex? It’s just a different level of intimacy.
Now back when I was studying hard core, I got data from everyone I could. But if you’re asking if I use astrology to see who I like, I don’t. The gut comes first. The heart comes first. The astrology is a service. If you have a problem, I can look at your chart and maybe help you with that. But think about it.
I meet someone in the world. They’re telling me jokes, making me laugh. Do I care what their sign is? I don’t.
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