I was on the phone with the soldier…

So what was the deal in torture school? They torture you until what? What response are they looking for? What are the waiting for you to do that will make them stop? Are you supposed to crack? Not crack? What do they want?”

“I don’t know,” he said. “They’re probably working with a time frame or something like that.”

“So you couldn’t figure out what ended it… when they would call it?”

“No I couldn’t. I don’t know what they were doing but I’ll tell you something. Bad as it was, I think the British torture school is even worse,” he said.

“Yeah? What do they do? What happened in there?” I asked.

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Breakfast this morning. We were talking about I don’t know what. Death and murder, I guess. 8th house subjects.

“Well most people never go to that edge,” he said. “But I’ve been there and I am telling you when you get all the way out there, self preservation kicks in.”

“I don’t know if I agree. If that’s true, then what about these women who don’t fight a rapist? Why doesn’t their self preservation kick in? They just get raped.”

“It does kick in but it’s too late. It does kick in but they wait too long. They wait until the guy is on top them, he’s got her pinned and when he starts choking her… now he’s going to kill her, then it kicks in but by then it’s too late. She’s thinking I’ll just let him do this and it will be all right. But then he starts choking her and she starts fighting at that point. And he gets his jollies from that and then she gets killed. And this is what the military trains you for. To self-preserve in time. You have to have that instinct kick in while there is still something you can do.”

We discussed suicide in relation to this rule and later, this:

“What about a guy who remains defiant while he is tortured to death?” I asked. “I know for a fact this happens.”

“It does happen. Yeah, that can happen.”

“So how does he break the rule? Why doesn’t his self preservation kick in?” I asked.

“Because it’s different. That’s a guy who is going to fight. That’s a fight to the death.”

I could not argue with any of this. You?