For awhile there I was writing about feeling very dog-ish. I used to include this option in polls -> “Elsa, I have evolved beyond the animal kingdom”.

In contrast I am very aware of acting in a way that primal and ultra organic in many if not most circumstances. I couldn’t say if this is good or bad, it is just my way and the tendency certainly shows up in my chart. This weekend - It was intense. We saw a couple movies, we got those old pictures, etc.

“How do you think you turned into such a rhino?” I asked the soldier. “You are so closely associated in all ways, I just wonder how this happened. How do you think it happened?”
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Heather M writes on Pluto Transit - Caught By The Crotch:

“I see how relating on that deep level so instantaneously would be eighth house. Caught by the crotch.”

Yeah, Heather M. - We just started acting out a deeply rooted ritual and in fact we still do this. You can see it in the fighting. We fight in way that is primal which I think is why people are so stunned when they witness it.  You just know you are dealing with some kind of phenomenon.

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Continue reading Pluto Transit To The Moon - Mine: The 8th House Speaks About Love, Ritual, Anger And Orgasms

“Well we relate in a way that is primal. It was like this from the beginning, P and we eat in a way that is primal too. It’s like we’ve been on a hunt and killed a wildebeest or something and now the whole pack is going to eat.”

I didn’t say anything.

“Yeah, we eat just like that. Remember when were in Piketon? We went to that restaurant and we ate the hell out of that food. We ate. The waiter came those people were scared of us, P.”

I laughed.

“They were. We scared the waiter. Stay away from those two. That waiter drew his hand back. He was afraid we’d eat it, I guess.”

I snorted.

“Well, he did. He did draw his hand back. Don’t you get in the way of the primal dogs eating their kill or you’re going to get eaten too. I don’t know what it is, P. But I’m telling you I have never eaten like the way we do with anyone but you in my life. We’re like a pack of dogs and the sex is the same thing. I don’t know what else to say. I just know if you get between us when we’re together all hell breaks loose. We have some sort of primal connection and we really are just like a pack of dogs.”

I couldn’t argue and have no idea what to attribute this too. Something more than 2 grand trines in earth. When we were kids he perceived he same thing. I was oblivious, but he got me this flight jacket that matched his and said we were our own gang. And we’d ride around on the one little motorcycle… it was just a little red 400 Kawasaki he had bored out but when we went in that biker bar to challenge the whole place, no one messed with us. It’s uncanny, really. We were skinny little, happy teenagers with grins. Freaks of nature, I suppose.

Rancho Diablo and the Biker Bar - Cardinal Grand Cross in Synastry and The Fortress Effect

Dear Pluto,

As far as I am concerned, you are already in a real relationship. You’re there, he is there and there is a dynamic. So what you are really asking is if you can turn the relationship into something it isn’t and no, I don’t think you can. And I say this based on your chart.

The conflict you describe is shown in your chart in several ways and on multiple levels. For example, you have a packed 7th house (wants a partner) but it is packed with Aries (wants to hunt).

The fact that Pluto in Libra opposes your Aries brings projection into this big time and if you doubt me, just re-read your post.

He pulls away when you get close, then you pull away to get him close, and then someone else pulls away and the other clings. Can you see the hall of mirrors? In case you can’t, let me spell it out.

I guarantee you that if this guy started clinging to you, you’d balk. You would do this in spite of the fact you’re a Cancer and intermittently want security. Because what fun is security when there is “gut-wrenching, primal sex” out there?

You get the idea…

For what it’s worth, you are not alone. Most of us have conflicting desires to one degree or the other. But as for advice, I would recommend you work to know yourself better than you do, because guess what?

This shows up in your chart, not his. Good luck.

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