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Jupiter in Sagittarius - Let’s Eat! Food and Nurture, Sadge Moon Style: Denis and Brad Entertain Elsa P
Astrology in Real Life…
My scooter and I went to see Denis from Cameroon and his autistic charge, 23 year old Brad, who Denis calls “Brat” because of his accent. Brad is not actually a brat though. He is a happy young man who cannot talk, but can get his point across. For example he stomped his foot down HARD and Denis said, “That means Brat is hungry.”
Denis cooked Brad and I his home food, which was rice, ground dried shrimp, ground beef and onions all tossed into a pot and cooked in coconut milk. I’d never had anything like it, but scarfed it down as did Brad.
Denis’s house was immaculate and I watched as Brad, who can dress but not bathe himself, carried his plate and his glass into the kitchen when he’d finished eating.
“Is he a picky eater?” I asked.
“Brat? Not so much,” he said. “But sometimes I fix something he doesn’t want and he let’s me know about it.”
“How’s that?”
“Usually he just picks up the plate, walks over to the trash and dumps it.”
I laughed, as Brad came back in the dining room and picked up the two wooden coasters from his place setting, one for the glass, one for the plate and tossed them into the sideboard cabinet next to the table and took off. Denis and I talked for another half hour or so and then he wanted to ride the scooter. I picked up plate and my glass and Denis took them from me.
“I know where these go,” I said, picking up the coasters.
“See, Elsa? Brat taught you that.”
I grinned. I like how Denis is. “Yep, I learned this watching Brad…”
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Yesterday I was on my way home from the gym and I was thinking about the food he’s served me. His home food. And I was remembering the taste that was so distinctive and I realized I felt very nurtured by this gesture. It makes you feel good when someone invites you into their home and serves you the food they grew up with, whatever that might be.
When you have guests do you serve them home food, or company food? Where is your Moon?
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Pluto Transit to the Moon - Mine: She’s a Woman’s Woman With Sisters All Over This Land: One Of Them Is Cheating With Her Husband
Astrology In Real Life
I consider myself a massive, and complete man’s woman and I don’t think many would argue. But I am also a feminist with serious credentials. But this blog is not about me. It’s about I woman I know who fascinates me because she has such little use for men!
Now she’s a married, heterosexual but her husband is a complete afterthought to her. She’s pretty much disinterested in sex. What she loves is her sisters… which is basically any woman of any age who lives on this planet.
And she spends most her life supporting other women by being politically involved and planning or participating in women’s groups or circles. And she is always trying to get me to come to one of these things to which I respond… “Why would I do that? There are no men there.” I’ll say. To which she roars laughing. Continue reading Pluto Transit to the Moon - Mine: She’s a Woman’s Woman With Sisters All Over This Land: One Of Them Is Cheating With Her Husband
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Astrology and Your Mother: The Moon in The Horoscope
Astrology in Real Life…
Yesterday, I was talking to a pal. Her mother stopped in at her job. After she left, a young girl she works with asked, “Is that your Mom?” She had a lilt in her voice.
“Yes,” my friend answered. ‘That’s my Mom.”
“She seems sweet,” the girl said, chirping.
“Well she’s not. Be careful. I love her, she’s my mom, but she is definitely not sweet…”
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My friend has her Moon (mother) in Capricorn which no one would describe as “sweet”.
Her Moon is square Venus which is supposed to be sweet… but in this case Venus is in Aries (war) so maybe this is why she comes with a warning!!
What is your mother, not? And where is your Moon, and how is it aspected?
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Pluto Transit To The Moon: Mine… The Family Legacy
Ask The Collective…
A few blogs back, the solider was talking about how you can’t shake your upbringing. He was raised in a conservative family, steeped in tradition, his family and his roots where as I was raised by progressive, eccentric and ultra-detached, Aquarians. And with the Pluto transit (uncover what is hidden) to my Moon (roots) these things have become center stage.
Now when we were kids, this was one jacked up relationship! Because coming here from South America, a quarter Italian himself, he took one look at me… we were the same color, and he assumed that I was just like him. You know. He assumed I was Catholic, for starters! And I never did disabuse him of this notion. Continue reading Pluto Transit To The Moon: Mine… The Family Legacy
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Pluto Transit To The Moon - Mine: What Did Your Mother Say?
Ask The Collective…
When I was in New York, HQ’s wife, the mega-Scorpio mentioned something her mother told her which I thought was very potent. She said whatever a person’s age is… this is the speed their life is traveling at. You know. The older you are, the faster your life moves. 10 years old? 10 miles an hour. 54 years old? 54 miles an hour.
I thought this was very astute and I mentioned it to another friend who liked it a lot. And today is occurred to with my Pluto Moon transit, to come on the blog and ask what your mother told you… and invite people to share so others can benefit and I’ll go first.
My mother told me, “You know you’re in big trouble when decent people wanted nothing to do with you.”
Being highly Capricorn I took that at a definite warning. I was very afraid these “decent people” wouldn’t like me, but Capricorn outgrows that stuff, thank God and these days I know I am “decent people” defined. And there are people I want nothing to do with!
And whenever I run across someone like this I always think of what my mother said. “That person is up a creek!” I think. “Because I want nothing to do with them and I am a decent person…”
And I truly think this is worst thing that can possibly happen to a human being. To have decent people turn their back, I mean. How can you possibly be more screwed? Can you imagine? Decent people want nothing to do with you so all you can so is powwow with the indecent people, like yourself! To me this would be a fate worse than death!
Your turn!
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Floundering After Loss of Relationship: Moon, Venus, Neptune T-Square
Elsa,
I’ll start by saying that I lived in Texas for about five years prior and dated a woman for four of them. We became very close and she always seemed to care about what I thought… but we had problems. I caught her coming -very- close to cheating on several occasions.
Due to money constraints, I was forced to leave college and her in Texas, and move to New York to live with my parents (so that I would be able to continue going back to school at some point). The second day into traveling to NY I had found she had already found another, or quite possibly had another lined up, despite her being very emotional when I said goodbye.
I think I should also note this was my first serious relationship. When I arrived in NY, I was crushed and isolated myself from my family and social events in hopes that the pain would subside. Seven months later; it hasn’t. I’m worried because I either lost my drive for anything else (college, a career, dating, anything) during that relationship, or I’ve lost it as a result of losing that relationship. I know find myself continually isolated and resorting to escapism in the hopes that I don’t have to deal with the more cruel side of human emotions.
Why am I feeling this way? I honestly don’t understand. How can I force or push myself through this to get on with my life socially, professionally, and emotionally?
Thanks,
Adrift
Dear Adrift,
I am sorry for your loss. You have Neptune in hard aspect to both your Moon and Venus which essentially means you idealize love and women in general. There is tendency to deceive and or be deceived in relationships, a tendency towards escapism and extreme susceptibility to addiction (escapism) of all type, including love.
So this is who you are. It is a natal condition. And there are positive ways you can work with it, but you are going to have to find a way to overcome your inertia.
Now that may sound stupid. But if you equate what you are doing to someone who is drinking heavily, which is a fair comparison, then obviously that person needs to get to sober. And no one is saying it is easy. However there is very little anyone can do until and unless the drinker… or in this case, the “piner” decides to clutch it up and go cold turkey.
Because the the fact is, this woman is no longer your woman. And repeatedly falling on a knife (or hanging from a cross) is not changing that and it never it will. Matter of fact, it sounds as if she had one foot out the door for awhile there - and I don’t say that to hurt you. I just want you to face facts. Like drinking all day is not a good idea, stopping your life over a woman who hasn’t thought of you in months is not wise and I think you should stop.
Quit going back and dreaming her up! To quote Reverend Ike as mentioned in Caroline Casey’s book “Making The Gods Work For You” “If you can dream it up, you can dream it down.” And this is what you need to learn.
It is your imagination making this mortal woman into the be all, end all. Try very hard to assimilate that because it is the key not only to freedom from this situation but to the rest of your life.
Because you are an inspired, creative man. And you are currently wasting your energy keeping a hologram of a dream relationship that never was, alive. Stop it! Although your nature may dictate you dream something up, surely you can come up with something better than this woman who is gone. Try to redirect your energy… your imagination this is towards something that is creative, as opposed to destructive.
Good luck.
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She’s Disgusted and Cheating With a Married Man With a Pregnant Wife: Gemini Sun, Pisces Moon
Dear Elsa,
This year I started to behave like never before in my life; I just don’t recognize myself at all. I knew myself as a person who is quite conservative, has strict moral rules and loves truth….
I’ve been dating a married man (Virgo) with two kids, since January. Sex was involved from our first date (btw the best I ever had). We have a secret relationship. I know he is married and has a family. He told me that before we met, he had tried to find someone through ads, because he needed love and understanding etc.
He had a pregnant wife at home with one daughter. Married men were always strict no-no for me!! However, I started to behave like a fool and left my husband. Now I’m living alone.
I was totally, absolutely in love with this Virgo first few months. Now I’m only obsessed and at the same time repulsed by him. He says he will leave his family and live with me, which I never wanted since I don’t think he is an ideal partner for me. He has confessed he did the same thing a few years ago - when his wife was pregnant with their first, he had an affair, promised to leave and then changed his mind and returned to his wife.
Now he says it is “real” and of course I don’t believe him. However, he has already moved away from his family and it seems now he is serious.
Two weeks ago something happened. I accidentally I got into his mailbox and found out he exchanged a few flirty emails with an ex-girlfriend who contacted him. And today, he contacted someone who has a personal ad on some romance site.
Maybe it is just a fun for him, but it is possible he wants to meet new women. It means he is lying to his wife and to his secret lover as well? When I wanted him to tell me the truth, he almost started to cry, like a little boy….
I suffer like hell. Part of me wants to run, but another part in me forces me to stay and watch both of us, like when you are watching a movie. Why do I chose to experience such a horrible relationship, when I never dreamed of something like this? And why he is doing what he is doing? I don’t feel he loves me, although he says he does and I believe him that he believes what he is saying. And I don’t feel I really love him, although I say I do. Or I don’t know what real love is at all, it is possible. I just don’t understand ANYTHING now, what is real and what is not.
I feel ashamed by what I’m doing, repulsed by him/both of us and yet I’m not able to leave (yet). Why am I doing this? Why am I so obsessed and fascinated by what he is doing and where will this lead?
Mistress
Dear Mistress,
Obviously your man is a deeply disturbed liar and I don’t think he needs love and understanding but a swift kick in the ass.
As for you, you sound like a heroin addict. And as long as you want to stick that needle in your arm, there is not much anyone can do for you.
It’s obvious you like your pain, because your post makes it clear you do not want to stop this behavior. With your Moon conjunct Jupiter in Pisces, it seems you relish this masochistic relationship and your dissociated state.
You’re watching a movie? Come on! This is real life and you’re screwing some pregnant woman’s disturbed husband.
And I have to tell you, I think you’re well matched with him, like two drug addicts or two hopeless alcoholics. But please understand if the rest of us shake our heads and walk away. Because you’re the only one who finds this interesting or fascinating in some way. The rest of us think you need to sober up, and the sooner the better.
Good luck.
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She Found Out Her Husband Is Cheating With Multiple Partners: Neptune Square the Sun and Moon
Dear Elsa,
Two weeks ago, I found out my husband has been cheating on me. We have great sex, he is my best friend and I always tell him everything. We have been married for 12 years, have 2 children and we both dedicate everything to them and to ourselves at night. But I can’t seem to cope with this.
The shock is that he has had sex with several people, not one in particular, different ones. He travels extensively and I found out he contacts these women via e-mail to have sex every time he travels. He also chats with 18 year olds. I am scared.
I confronted him and he says that all men do it and it’s natural, but that it means nothing. It’s just sex! We are still together but now living in a freezer home. He has left me with my mouth wide open and I can’t seem to comprehend it. I thought I gave him everything: the foreplay, the play of wearing costumes??
The worst is that I can’t talk to him. I just don’t know what to say and I am not sure if he is willing to let his cheating go either. I am a very sentimental person, I cry easily and that is why I can’t talk to him, my words do not come out as strong as I would like them and I let my sentimental feelings take charge and do not know how to be firm and strong.
What did I do wrong? What is this?? I’ve been reading books on cheating husbands but I can’t seem to find the answer for several cheatings and not one in particular. I truly thought I married the perfect man especially since he is 9 years older than me. I thought him being older made him mature enough not to play games with a marriage. He is currently 46 years old.
Can you explain any of this? What am I dealing with? I thought I was a very strong person and I guess he has made me into this helpless child?
Sincerely,
Helpless
Dear Helpless,
You may be in momentary shock… this would certainly be understandable but you are not helpless. In fact your chart is strongly Cardinal (commanding) and I have no doubt you will ultimately assimilate this information, decide what you’re going to do and then execute as if a general in the army.
So just know that. Know you’re in there somewhere and you’ll be back. And what I’ll do is parse this situation for you, feeling confident you’ll find your way once you have the information ordered.
Now regarding your husband, obviously he is a liar and a very good liar at that. He has Neptune square his Sun (and his Moon) and he successfully obscured the reality of who he is. And you should probably brace for more information to come to light, because this is usually what happens in a situation like this.
As to what is driving him, I can’t say for sure. But he has a Leo Moon and he clearly needs SCADS of attention. Because he sounds like he gets a good deal at home, yet it’s no where near enough. And based on this, I would say there is something pathological about his behavior. He’s driven, you could say.
You could probably compare this to a drug addict or a drunk. A drunk drinks and in the throes of their addiction tries to convince others that ‘everybody does it…” Everybody gets falling down drunk. Everybody cheats. Which is erroneous of course.
So here’s the thing. You really are a competent person to the extreme. And I think you’d be well advised not to allow him to drag you into his skewed perception of reality, which he is clearly trying to do. And I’ll give you a hard core example of this for reference.
Last week I saw five minutes of the Oprah Winfrey show on NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) which is all I could stomach. These men who want to have sex with boys have a club. And they actually believe that 8 and 9 and 10 year old boys are out there, just dying to have sex with them… a bunch of pot-bellied pimply pig men in their 50’s, if only parents and the government weren’t so damned oppressive. And they meet with each other and reinforce this freakishly distorted reality.
And you get the idea. Don’t let your husband sell you a NAMBLA type reality. Fact is, what he is doing is wrong and I expect he will need copious amounts of help to stop. This is assuming he wants to stop, which it does not seem to be the case. I’m sorry.
To answer your question specifically, you did nothing wrong and as for my advice… if it were me, I would be looking for the door and once I found it, I’d be through it just as swiftly as possible. And don’t worry about your ability to replace him either, because women who treat men the way you do are always in demand.
Good luck.
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Astrology Is Not Flat - A Conversation
Catch up here: Astrology Is Not Flat - An Introduction
So personally, I have Saturn transiting the 7th house which suggests I would be learning via relationships. And to facilitate this I am in contact with two ex-boyfriends from 28 years ago… the last time Saturn was in Leo. In other words, it’s a complete Saturn cycle.
I also have Mars conjunct Mercury in Libra, so a constantly hotted up mind. I talk (Mercury) about Mars things (Sex, war, men, etc). Especially when my conjunction is being transited as it has over these last weeks.
I have an 8th house emphasis, in general (intense, taboo) but beyond that Pluto is transiting in aspect to my Moon.
So what feels like “home” to me? In what ways am I subconsciously driven? What is my family legacy?
With Pluto transiting the Moon, these things are all on deck and you can see how it all comes together… how incredibly incredible the universe is when it comes to delivering experience via a conversation I had earlier this week.
I was talking to my Ex, the Special Forces guy which is very handy for Mars Mercury. Talk to a soldier? Perfect! He rang.
Briiiinnng! Brinnnnng!
“I was just talking about you,” I said.
“To who?”
“Scott.” Scott is my other ex from the era. “I was telling him… well the thing is, I saw Scott in July. And of course I saw him for 17 years on and off. But I hadn’t seen him in a long time and what you find out is nothing changes. Not one thing.”
He was listening.
“We were driving around in a car when I visited and you know… well I am a very visceral person. I am freakishly sensitive; there is no way to stop it. And I’ll tell you, it was exactly the same. We drove around and the feelings were exactly the same as they always were. How I felt in July was the same way I felt when I was on my first date with him, when I was 15 years old. There was no difference at all.”
“Uh huh.”
“Uh huh. It was identical. And it makes sense. Because think about it. He’s the same person. He has the same gestures and the same face with the same looks on it. So we were driving around and he’d glance over at me with the same look on his face from a million years ago. That Scott look. And I would have the same feeling, exactly. You know. I’m in the right car. I know I am somewhere I belong which is how I felt from the first minute I met him. So you see what I mean. His energy is the same obviously. It just doesn’t change.
“No.”
“So I have my energy and you put us in a car together, which is sort of close quarters and you can really feel this stuff. And it’s overwhelming. It’s overwhelmingly good, for that matter. Because it’s just so large. You just can’t compare this sort of experience. There is nothing like seeing something go all the way around like that. Thirty years and it means nothing. Time and space mean absolutely nothing. They have no effect at all that I can discern.”
To be continued…
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Grew Up In A Religious Home, Now She Studies Astrology - Family Trouble: Capricorn Moon, Sagittarius Rising
Hi Elsa,
I am having trouble relating to my sisters. I talk to them all very superficially, but I feel I cannot be myself around them. We grew up in a religious home (evangelical Christians) but I am not religious. I curse like a trucker, I am pro-choice, I hang out with all kinds of wacky people, and I love my queer friends.
I get very depressed when I hang out with my sisters because I feel like there is something wrong with me - that I am cold, that I don’t tell them anything about myself, that I can’t BE MYSELF because obviously I do not tell them anything about my life. I left home at 16 because of a huge myriad of reasons, all leading to me wanting to feel free to be myself.
I feel as though I am a failure because I cannot be myself - or really be true to myself - when I talk to my sisters. I really feel like I hide who I am. And I feel lonely and isolated and wondering how I can learn to be myself around my sisters like I am with my friends. I feel like I am missing out on family.
The more I explore spirituality, the more depressed and isolated I feel: my sister came over for a night and I had to hide all of my astrology books because I couldn’t bear the theological argument. Even just the “I’m praying for you” crap that makes me feel like a complete and utter failure.
Sorry to be so dramatic. I just think that these people aren’t assholes or bad, so I want to get along with them. I feel like a phony. The last time I stood up for what I believed in there were serious repercussions which hurt for a long time.
Anyhoot. Thanks for any insight you may offer.
Isolated Sister
Dear Sister,
Your problem is terrifically complicated but also very simple. First the conundrum: Mercury rules “siblings” and yours is highly stressed. It’s involved in a T-square with Uranus and Saturn which plays about million ways. Like this:
Rebel (Uranus) against your siblings (Mercury)… and vice versa.
Oppressed / Restricted /Rejected (Saturn) by your sibs (Mercury)… and vice versa.
And I could go on and on. These things go ’round and ’round, bing, bang, bing like a pinball machine. And although there are positive ways for these energies to express, this is an advanced game, beyond the scope of what can be addressed on this blog. So leaving that be, I would advise you to focus first on something much simpler. The basic way you’re living that is, because this is what is causing most your symptoms anyway.
See, you’ve got a Capricorn Moon. And Capricorn cannot thrive until and unless they are living completely above board. You must live with integrity or else… well in the case of the Sun in Capricorn, life without integrity is a dismal failure. In the case of a Capricorn Moon, you are going to be depressed! So you get my drift. It is you responsible for your depression and you who can fix it.
And your Sagittarius rising echoes this theme. Sagittarians are all about what they believe. And who are you if you are concealing your “religion” (or lack of) courtesy your fear of being rejected (Capricorn) by your family (Moon)?
I vote that you express yourself. Live free and let the chips fall. Because I’m telling you, your relationship with your sibs is going to be taut regardless. But at least this way you’ll have integrity, and with your Sagittarius standing proud I bet your mood improves.
Good luck.
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