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My 8th House Observations Around Secrets, Both My Own And Others Plus Notes on Gossip
Astrology in real life
The other night the soldier said he preferred to avoid knowing my secrets, they disturb him. I wrote about that and some others commented they also preferred not to hear other people’s secrets.
Now I can understand because there are some things I don’t want to know anything about, details around my lover’s ex-lover would be an example but a bonafide secret? Man, what could be more tasty than that?
Yeah, I love knowing secrets and I am fortunate as people tell me plenty of them. I just love knowing things I am not supposed to know - Going places I am not supposed to go, etc.
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Pluto Transit To The Moon - Mine: Past Emotional Manipulations Revealed
Astrology in real life
I think I am about 18 in this story, making the soldier about 20. We were continuing to discuss our break-ups. For the record, I was dating Sadisimal John at this time.
“Yeah, we were broke up about 3 months that time,” he said. ‘You had a boyfriend up until you got sick of him and then you came looking for me.”
I didn’t say anything because that is exactly what I did.
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The Packed 8th House Communes With Scorpio Moon On A Few Favorite Subjects Like Death, Jealousy, Manipulation and Destiny
Astrology in real life
“You’ll probably be just like my grandmother,” the soldier said. “My grandfather was in the hospital, he’s all old, he’s dying and my grandmother would not let the nurses give him a sponge bath. She made them let her do it.”
“Yeah, well that’s exactly what I’d do, you know that. I’d get in bed with you too.”
“I figured.”
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Manipulating Energy - Legacy And Inheritance: Pluto, Scorpio And The 8th House
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“Well I am his legacy,” I explained the soldier regarding my father. “I inherit his energy whether I like it or not. It is no different than you and your son. Your son is your legacy… doesn’t matter if he wants it that way because it is that way. See him on that video and whose grin is that?” I asked.
“My grin.”
“Right. And regardless who my father is or what he’s done, I look just like him. I have his hair and the guy had charisma you know. He had no shortage of charisma so I can thank him for mine. And because I am his legacy, the older and weaker he becomes the stronger I become. I believe this. His energy is passing to me.”
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Manipulating Energy: Pluto, Scorpio And The 8th House
Astrology in real life
“Well I think energy is energy,’ I explained to the solider. “And it’s neutral until it’s directed. This means a person can go ahead and stab me if they like, but as I always say, if you do then I get your knife.”
“That’s fine, P, except people who stab you don’t usually leave their knife they take it with them.”
“The actual knife, yes. But what good does that do them? The exchange of energy has taken place. The event happens and I now have that energy… which is neutral until I direct it and what I do with it is my own affair. It is my own business.”
He stared.
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Does Scorpio Play A Zero-Sum Game?
Astrology in real life…
Ana commented on the Scorpio Energy… vs Pisces Energy blog…
“The Scorpio energy is more like a zero sum game - for one person to gain energy the other has to lose energy. The energy exchanged is equal of course, but one person gets stuck with a negative balance…”
The comment made an impression on t-carat who referenced it on Cultural Differences Between Asians, Westerners and Italians:
“Like someone rather astutely described Scorpio on this blog: playing a zero-sum game. This is the game many Americans play in a ‘fun’, detached way, or so it appears from my jaded perspective right now.” Continue reading Does Scorpio Play A Zero-Sum Game?
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Pisces Man Leaves Aquarian Woman - She Wants Him Back: Astrology-Based Advice
Dear Elsa,
I know it takes a lot of courage for a Pisces man to break up with someone. Even though he told me that he still cares a lot about me, I know it’s just to make it seem less difficult - or maybe he’s trying to make himself feel better.
Either way, he just told me he has all these fantasies about love and how it would be filled with “butterflies.” I understand that Pisces are about the imaginative things but butterflies?
I believe that we can get anything/anyone we want in life with the right approach. How do I get him to come back?
Faithful Aquarius
Thailand
Dear Aquarius,
You can get anything or anyone you want in life? I am afraid I disagree with you. There are legions of people out there who have lost a friend or a lover, wished for and wanted them back… and failed to have this manifest. The other person has something to say about it.. The other person has free will and as an Aquarian, you should inherently understand this. That people are going to do what they want, that is.
This guy apparently wants to fantasize about butterflies. He might like to see them flying around his beloved’s head… or perhaps they are in his stomach, I don’t know. But he does not want to be in a relationship with you, at least not the one you imagine.
Now here’s a tip: you have Venus and Mars in Aries. You also have planets in Capricorn, Saturn in the first and you wish to control things, especially others. So now you want to get this guy to do something, and I would not be the least bit surprised if this were at the root of why you lost him in the first place.
People don’t like to be controlled and manipulated (Pluto in Scorpio in aspect to Venus and Mars) so when they meet someone controlling and manipulative, they tend to make like a butterfly and fly away.
Good luck.
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Sagittarius Woman Infatuated With Scorpio Man: Venus, Mercury, Pluto Conjunct In Scorpio
Dear Elsa,
About a year ago I met a Scorpio man and it was love at first sight. As I walked into work we couldn’t stop staring at each other, there was an instant attraction that I just can’t explain. Little did I know that my Pisces friend was also falling head over heels for him and since she was the first to admit it, I kept my feelings hidden.
It wasn’t long before I found out that the guy liked me and not my friend, and he did everything possible to let me know. As much as I tried not to fall for him, I couldn’t resist. He did everything for me to talk to him and get to know him. Finally I agreed to go out with him one day and practically ended up in bed. When he kissed me I just couldn’t resist.
After that night we were still very much into each other but emotionally I closed up for I was extremely scared. We continued to go out but never did he ask me to be his girlfriend and this concerned me. Although I did begin to act different he stopped calling. We still talked but not long after, I left my job where we both worked and left to Hawaii for a couple of weeks, for a family vacation that was long planned. For a year I neither spoke to him or saw him… until recently where I saw him at a music show where his band performed.
He saw me first and couldn’t stop staring and smiling, the biggest smile I had ever seen. But he was with his band carrying equipment so we didn’t even speak; nevertheless we were both speechless. The rest of the night he looked rather confused shy and nervous. I couldn’t take it and left once again running away. There has not been a single day where I haven’t thought of him, he’s somewhat of an obsession. He currently has a girlfriend though I know they have problems and have broken up before. Should I pursue this or is this hopeless?
Sagittarius Girl
United States
Dear Sagittarius,
I looked at this man’s chart and I think you are dealing with a free agent here. He is so young I am not going to label him a “player”, but I think it would be wise for you to try to detach and think about who you are dealing rather than how you feel.
This man has obvious charisma. We see it in your story and we see it in his chart, with his stellium in Scorpio, part of a grand trine with his Moon in Cancer and Jupiter in Pisces.
And although he is only 21, I think he has figured this out at least to some extent. He plays in a band and if you keep your mouth shut, girls will dream you up… fantasize about you… and you will get all kinds of sex and various other sundries.
Now I don’t want to call him manipulative but he is putting that Scorpio tractor beam on you (and others no doubt) and then taking it off (withholding) - and next thing you know, he’s got you eating out of his hand. Are you getting pissed yet?
I think you will get pissed when you see he’s feeding off you and that’s cool because guess what? You have Venus, Mercury and Pluto in Scorpio yourself and you need to learn about these kinds of games. Don’t play them!
Well, you’re 19 so go ahead and experiment, who wouldn’t. But I think if you pay attention, you’ll find this method of operation ultimately leads you to nothing worth having.
I would say you met this man so you could learn about your own power… discover yourself. So use him right back, see? X-ray vision him because you are surely capable. Time to forget about him and see what you can do.
Good luck.
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Fashion, The Beauty Standard And The Manipulation Women (and Men)… And Children By The Media
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In honor of Mars squaring Venus today, here is the soldier (Mars) on beauty (Venus). He was talking to my daughter and I… this is awhile back when we visited him. I was really glad my daughter heard this by the way.
He was back on his rant on the trend towards hairlessness for men and women and the “just got out of Dachau” skinny look for women.
‘Now I’ll tell you what’s occurred to me,’ he said. “I’ve thought of doing this and maybe I should do this just to teach these idiots a thing or two.”
“Doing what?” my daughter asked.
“Oh, well I’d have to get a job a Vogue or something like that. Vogue, the magazine I mean. I’d sure hate to be around those kind of people but I could do it I had to,” he said with a groan. “I suppose…”
He stopped to let us laugh.
“But anyway I’d get in there some how. I’d get a job. I’m sure I could do this and once I was in there I’d start convincing them of things.”
“Things like what?” I asked.
“Well you know those African women with the rings around their necks? You know. Those rings they put on to make their necks long?”
“Yeah,” we both said.
“Well first I would convince them this was coming back. It’s the new style. This neck thing; it’s the thing to do.”
We both laughed.
“But I would also convince them they were going to have to do like the Chinese women as well. They were going to have to bind their feet so they wouldn’t grow.”
We snorted.
“Yep, it’s the new fashion. To be stylish, you have to have rings around your neck, bound feet and one more thing. Let’s see. Oh, I know. I could have them hang something heavy from their earlobes. Bricks or something. Something hanging from your earlobes so they’d be all stretched out like… I think it was some Indians who did that so we could do that again. We could have everyone do these three things and there you go. This could be the new beauty standard.”
Mosta and I laughed.
“And just give it a year or two and everyone would be walking around like this. And they’d look ridiculous of course which would be exactly what they deserve for letting someone convince them there was something wrong with them in the first place.”
Where is your Venus?
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Scorpio Man Gives Self-Described Erratic Gemini Woman, Mixed Signals
Dear Elsa,
Two months ago, I began dating a Scorpio man who has been a very close friend for the past 3 years. During this time, he had made it very obvious that he wanted to take our friendship to the next level. However, when we met, I had recently come out of an abusive relationship and was not ready to open myself up emotionally. My friend was very aware of what I had gone through as I’d always felt comfortable telling him what is on my mind. Anyway, being the ever changing Gemini that I am, I quite suddenly changed my mind about how I feel towards him and so we began dating.
The problem is that he has become very erratic in his behavior towards me. More erratic than me (imagine that)! We recently had a conversation were he said that he thought we needed to slow things down a bit. Of course I wanted to know why and so he told me he was scared. He said that it bothered him that I could have such a complete turnaround in the way I felt about him after spending 3 years insisting we are just friends and that I needed to give him some time to figure this out. I said it sounded like he was trying to end it already but he said he wasn’t ending it but more like putting it on hold for awhile.
Now here is the part that threw me for a loop: his very next sentence was, and I quote “You know that when we get married, it will be forever.” Okay, here we are having a conversation where he is basically telling me to back off because he is having issues with the relationship but then throws the M word out there. For the first time in my life, I am completely speechless. In the meantime he’s just standing there looking at me like I supposed to completely get where he is coming from. Talk about making 180 degree turns.
What I want to know is if this is normal behavior for a Scorpio? And if so, am I supposed to try to read between the lines or just go with the flow? It’s making me crazy and I think he’s doing it on purpose even though he says he’s not. I thank you for any help you can give me on this. I truly want to make this work between us because I do have strong feelings for him and he has told me that he also has very strong feelings for me. I just don’t know how to make any sense of his behavior.
Gemini Girlfriend
United States
Dear Girlfriend,
It does sound like typical Scorpio behavior, in that it is manipulative. But it is so poorly executed… well let me confide.
Sometimes I read these posts and wonder if one or the other person is drunk. Because no one ever writes me and says, ‘yeah, he or she did this and by the way they drank ten beers that night!” Because if they did, that would explain a lot, wouldn’t it?
But since I don’t know, I am going to assume sobriety and tell you that I don’t think you are going to be able to “make this work” - mainly because it sounds to me as if he is trying to make it “not work”. And will he win? Of course.
When there are two people - one of them hell bent on destruction, the other trying to be constructive - the negative person will always win. And if you wonder about this, just ask yourself how long it takes to build something… as compared to how long it takes to knock it down.
I am sorry, but if I were you, with a history of being in abusive relationships, I would be on high alert with this one. Because Scorpio is not likely to take their energy off you when they are (relatively) healthy and authentically interested and committed you.
Good luck.
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