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Astrology, Faith And The 12th House: When Does A Problem End And What Happens After?
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Lynn writes regarding my idea that all problems are resolved through the 12th house:
“I know from personal experience that when I pass to the 12th house without the full gut- wrenching turn of the wheel I know that someone or something will remind me that I may have thrown away the key to that karmic chapter in my life but the window is still open!
How do you know when it’s over? That it’s due for the 12th house or whether it’s one more go round the block?”
Lynn - Hi (I think you are new) and thanks for this. That’s a great question but the part about the window still being open is something that occurred to me that I had left out.
For example the fact you accept a relationship is gone does not mean it does not, will not, cannot come back into being! There (probably) really is no end. The relationship may come back in this life or in the next or the next after that. The possibilities are endless and this is the 12th house defined. Faith! Don’t worry, the universe has your back!
”How do you know when it’s over?”
In my case, I find out something is over when it comes to me on the wind. That’s what I call things that just flow in. I have no idea where it comes from but in my case the release is never gut-wrenching because I am in the 11th house before I hit the 12th. I am detached, that is. In preparation.
Can anyone add to this?
pictured: Neptune’s Steeds, Walter Crane, 1892
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Pluto Transit To The Moon - Mine: House In Mourning
Astrology in real life
I was talking to the soldier a couple days ago…
“I had to get some light bulbs,” I said. “The bulbs in the kitchen burnt out and I didn’t have anymore that were bright enough so I am going to change them and then I may even try to change the porch light.”
“It’s out too?”
“It’s been out for two years. Yep. More than that actually. It’s been out for about two and a half I guess. When it first burned out I climbed up there to change the bulb but could not figure out how to get in there and do it. Must be simple, right? You’d think.”
“Yeah…”
Continue reading Pluto Transit To The Moon - Mine: House In Mourning
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Pluto Transit To The Moon - Mine: Loss Of A Child
Astrology in real life
A regular reader emailed in concern after I made a comment… this is what I said in part:
“… I am losing like a mf, I am taking losses I can and will never recover from but they are simply not on this front.”
I was cautioned to not make statements as you risk writing your own ticket and I while I agree in principal, in this case I chose my words quickly and believe I was misunderstood. I decided to put this up to clarify in case anyone else read that comment and had similar concern.
I explained to the person who wrote me that if I were to lose my daughter I would go on. I would continue to do the very best I could as I have done since I was 5 years old but I would never recover the loss. I would and could accept it but to actually ‘get over” the loss of a child I am pretty sure you would have to have a screw loose.
pictured : Rinaldo Abandons Armida, Giovanni Battista Tiepolo, 18th century, oil on canvas, detail of grieving woman
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Pluto Transit To The Moon - Mine: “And After That She Was Never The Same”
Astrology in real life
I was talking to friend and astrologer, Claire-France Perez regarding today’s news…
‘Well I realized I where I was yesterday,” I said. “I’m in this place, well people don’t recover from stuff like this,” I said. I named 4 situations where this had occurred off the top of my head. “You hear it all the time. She was never the same after that. That’s what they say. She was fine, she was this and that and then this happened and she was never the same. Don’t you hear that all the time?”
“Yes you do. But you are relying on strength of character.”
“Yes, I know and I have that. I have the character and I know I can do this but I’ve got to pay attention. You don’t just get through something like this. You have to make it through. This is the kind of scenario that does most people in, I am completely aware of that and close enough to it I can see how it happens, you just slip. It’s easy for me to see why people go around the bend and I don’t even blame them if they do. I mean I am not going to do but I am telling you I don’t blame the people who do.”
Have you ever known someone who suffered a trauma from which they could not recover?
pictured - Detail of Pluto in a quadriga from the painted decoration on the throne from the Tomb of Eurydike, circa 340 BC, Vergina, Tomb of Eurydike.
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Astrology And The Loss Of A Child… Waiting For The Axe To Fall
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marie writes on the Pluto Transit To The Moon: Mine - Losing a Child blog:
“Can a transit portend the loss of a child, Elsa? I try not to obsess about this. When you lose a child or have a child who is gravely ill, you seek a reason for the curse because the pain is so unbearable. During a 5 month period, my sister’s only child drowned in a freak accident and my 6 year old son (also an only child) was diagnosed with a brain tumor. It was discovered by accident - he had presented no symptoms whatsoever.
Continue reading Astrology And The Loss Of A Child… Waiting For The Axe To Fall
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For Zavela From My 8th House
Astrology in real life…
Zavela writes poignantly about her father:
Could it be the Saturn in Virgo that made me to realize that I am a sinner? My father didn’t deserve to be rejected but it is too late to hug him and let him know my feelings.
I decided to write about my experience for I believe there are many people who are too proud to forgive their parent’s mistakes. But, were they really mistaken? Do we speak with our parents from the bottom of our hearts? And if we do, do we understand their hearts?
The hunt after career and to provide good living to my children became such priority of my life that I forgot my father, my brothers and my childhood. This year has brought to me, I must say, weird experiences which brought back memories from my childhood. That led me to do research on my family background. I found out that my father was Jewish. He never told me, he never told anybody. Why? I will never know. There was WWII….. I never met his family, he never spoke about his family and I never asked. It is too late now. He died last summer and my mother died when I was 10. Until a few weeks ago I didn’t realize what a selfish ignorant I am.
(((Zavela))) I am very sorry for your pain.
First, I hope you are not too awful hard on yourself for too long. Virtually everyone pulls away and “abandons” their parents in order to establish themselves as an adult. It is a normal part growing up and as parents we know this, because we did it to our parents.
We also know if our children are not aware of us in the moment or if they are supposedly neglecting us, they will become very aware later on and we love them so much they already and always forgiven without even needing to ask.
Last, we know it will be enormously painful for our children when we pass. We know this even if they do not and I can pretty much guarantee your father’s deepest desire is that you live happy and free. What else could he possibly want?
It is true you can’t hug your father or ask him about the war and other things, firsthand. However, it is also true that pieces of these things will find their way to you for the rest of your life… in affect, your father will be talking to you in this way. He will always be with you because you are part of him and he is part of you and nobody and nothing (even death) changes that even one iota.
I hope you will forgive yourself. I am sure he already has. Much love.
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Elsa Meets Ronald McDonald
Astrology in Real Life
I was talking to my doctor yesterday about what happens to people who go through an extreme trial of some kind and I have been haunted by the memory of a man I knew briefly since. Don’t know why this is era is coming up at this time because the Chief of Police’s son, who I mentioned yesterday was from the same era but anyway, this guy was a clown.
He was an actual clown and an extraordinarily good one because he got to be Ronald McDonald for the region which was something seeing as he lived in the town of about 25 people that neighbored my town of about the same number. So if you imagine that, we were pretty isolated but he’d nailed this big job. If you think they let some Yahoo play Ronald, you’re wrong. This guy was accomplished. And he did magic of course. Continue reading Elsa Meets Ronald McDonald
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Cancer Woman’s Mother Died Suddenly - Capricorn Boyfriend Offers No Comfort
Dear Elsa
I am really at a loss about how to deal with my boyfriend. I thought that we had a strong relationship and we were planning marriage and our future. However, in February my mom suddenly died. Naturally I was very sad, but instead of helping me or being supportive, my boyfriend just seemed absent from it. Then a week after she died, he said he didn’t “know about our future anymore” and he needed to think about whether or not he wanted to be in a relationship with me. I can’t imagine who does that to someone, and even though I was completely shocked, I accepted the apology that followed and tried to remember that he was great pre-February and maybe this was just a stage he was going through.
Ever since that moment, he has gone through a cycle (usually every month) where everything will be fine and happy, and then he just decides he doesn’t love me or want to be with me. His apologies after that moment and my reaction (always sadness) becomes more intense. But, I buy into his apology and hope and hope that he won’t do it again.
I find myself increasingly becoming “needy” (as he puts it) and too nice to him (like I think if I am sweet and kind to him, he will return the favor). I feel like I am walking on egg shells with him. You see even though he is rejecting me, he won’t totally REJECT me… he always keeps me around or he never says “yes” or “no”… or just “I don’t know”. If I have all the requisite qualities of a girlfriend that he loved before, why now can’t he commit to me? I feel like I did something wrong maybe?
Now, right before my birthday, I found out (from him) that he didn’t feel romantic feelings for me and that he was in love with his ex-girlfriend. This, of course, did not stick, and he changed his mind 2 days later, telling me that he DID feel romantic feelings for me and he didn’t care about her anymore, and he told me that I shouldn’t worry about it because it was just a “bad dream”.
I feel hurt and angry and lonely. I would never treat anymore like this, so shouldn’t I deserve better? I don’t know WHY he is doing this when he used to be so different, and that is making me very depressed. How should I act towards him? What can I do to solve this problem and help myself?
Confused Cancer
United States
Dear Confused,
You’re 27 years old and you have lost your mother. I feel terribly sad for you and I want to do what you ask. I want to help you solve your problem and help yourself and the first thing I want you to know is your boyfriend’s inability and/ or unwillingness to help you through this crisis is not a reflection on you.
Also, his criticizing and calling you “needy” during a time when anyone with a beating heart would have enhanced needs is cold and uncalled for.
Now it sounds to me as if you are functioning very well. A little too well maybe and I get it. Losing your mother is a terrible blow and the last thing you want to do is lose your boyfriend simultaneously. Anyone with half a brain would do anything in their power to prevent something like this; however it may not be possible. It may be he is not the one for you and you are going to suffer a total life crisis at this juncture.
And I am sorry to say that but I don’t know how to avoid saying it - because this guy is not helping you, now when you need him the most. And does that sound like someone you want as a life partner?
Look. I am so sorry. But I think you have been staving off the grieving you are going to have to do and I don’t think your boyfriend is going to magically turn competent which means you are on your own… sort of.
You are on your own except for the fact that there are support groups everywhere… and if I were you I would get hooked up with them immediately. This is one way you can take care of yourself without relying on him and it is possible if you do this it will take some pressure off him and perhaps (?) he will be able to better respond. But either way, you will be taking a positive step and you are almost sure to make new friends - which it sounds like you could really use.
I am so sorry for your loss. Much love and good luck.
~~
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Young Man In Crisis - Mother Died From Cancer, Left With Alcoholic Father: Saturn, Neptune Transit to Moon Venus in Scorpio
Dear Elsa,
I am passing through some horrific setbacks and sad situations in both my personal and professional life. My mother has passed away on 26th May from cancer, which is a big blow to me since we were really close. I don’t share a healthy relationship with my father who is alcoholic as well. I was forced to quit my present job as well. In addition, I am facing enmity from some of my near relations.
Can you please advise if there is any way out for me? I am really feeling so low…
Thanx and regards
Grieving
India
Dear Grieving,
If reading your mail was not enough, I looked at your chart and nearly burst into tears. It is clear that your loss is staggering and I am so sorry you have to face something like this, especially when you are so young (25 years old). And I wish I knew a way out but I don’t believe there is one. I am so sorry, but this is a period you will have to go through and I will try to offer what I can in the hopes it eases your pain in the even the tiniest way.
First, I am pretty sure that this is as bad as it will ever get for you. You will make it through this time one way or the other by hook or crook, and when you do no one and nothing will ever be able to threaten you again.
Because what are they going to do? Kill your mother? Give her cancer? Make her suffer? Are they going to make your father worthless? What? Are they going to take your job? It’s already happened, damnit! So this is where you are headed - to extreme empowerment and here are my tips to get from here to there most directly and with the least pain which I am sorry to say, is still going to be excruciating.
You want to go into survival mode. That means shut down as many systems as you can. You don’t need to be arguing with a drunk for example. If your family members are turning on you (and with this much Scorpio I bet they are), you are going to have to let them. It’s like a forest burning down. You can get in there and try, but ultimately it is bigger than you and trying to fight the inevitable will only get you burned. You’ve just got to hunker down and let the thing burn… let nature take its course. Eventually it will burn itself out at that point you can take stock. Who is left? Who are your friends? What family do you have left?
And I want to tell you you’re not going to have much. I am sorry but I am just trying to warn you and really… tell you what you already know. You will be lucky to come out of this with one loyal friend so look for that. Look for the one good thing or person in your life and focus there while this fire burns. Now here’s a map:
In the very near term, you will still be coming to terms with the fact your mother is gone. Expect any depression to deepen as reality sets in; this is unavoidable. And although you are going to feel bad awhile, this will peak by August and then slowly… very slowly improve.
And although the blacker feelings will ease as Saturn moves out of aspect with your Scorpio Moon and Venus, you will still be dealing with a Neptune transit which will have you inordinately sensitive and emotional… perhaps crying at the drop of a hat. Tears come and you don’t even know why. Crying at movies. Crying when various music comes into your head. Crying because someone (finally) said something nice to you. Crying for the sake of crying.
And I know no way to make this easier, outside of telling you that you can be sure you are not crazy because you are going to wonder at times.
So basically what you have is the crisis of your lifetime. Look for a lifeline. Just one. And when you find it, hold on to it and ignore everything else the best you can. I’m so very sorry. I know you can make it through this.
Much love and good luck.
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