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Venus And Mars, Love And War
Astrology in real life
“You yelled at me on our first date,” the soldier said. “I should have known you were a mean girl then.”
“I yelled at you on our second date too.”
“Yeah you did.”
“So I yell at you on our first date, you get up in the morning and ask me if I want to be your girlfriend. I say yes and then I yell at you on our 2nd date. You must have been thinking why did I ask this girl to be my girlfriend.”
“No I wasn’t thinkin’ that but I should have been!”
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Elsa P And Her Plate Spinning Trick
Astrology in real life
Tam writes regarding my destiny:
“Elsa if you didn’t have the experiences that you have maybe you wouldn’t be able to help people the way that you do. Just a thought.”
Tam - I agree but there is more than that going on. This “helping people” is actually…. well, I guess you could say it’s my day job.
This is like my bartending job when I was a kid. I was 15 when I started and I would do that job. I would work my shift and I was good at it. Mostly I told jokes the whole time (Jupiter rising) but it had very little (almost nothing) to do with the reality that was my life. It is sort of like keeping a plate spinning while you do the rest of your life.
This blog is a plate I spin for reasons I barely understand and what I do understand may be fraught with errors even though I try my best.
I chock this up to Saturn/Neptune. You can’t draw lines around this stuff because as soon as you do, they are gone.
For example am I here to help people or merely to bother them?
Don’t ask me, I have no idea.
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Astrology, Destiny And Your Roll Of The Dice
Ask the collective
“I don’t mind being compared to her (the Little Match Girl),” I told satori. “I get it. There is no telling what is going to happen to me. Anything could happen to me, this must be obvious to people wouldn’t you say?”
“No, it’s not obvious. I would not say it’s obvious. You’re more like the elephant people have a hold of in the dark and they’re trying to figure out what it is.”
“Oh. Oh……..:
“Do you know the analogy?”
“I do. Well, crap. Okay so it’s not obvious. But it is obvious to me. I feel like I am a rogue wave and there is nothing I can do about. Things just keep happening that just don’t happen to other people and I can’t believe it will ever stop.”
“No.”
“Well there has to be a reason and we don’t know what it is.”
Do you have a sense of your destiny? What’s it like? Can you see this in your chart?
I can see my life plain as day in mine. I don’t know what I would do without astrology. The chart is like landed dice… there it is - that’s the roll. It’s enorm
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Am I Destined To Be Unloved? Venus In Scorpio Square Saturn Ruling The 7th House
Dear Elsa,
I am constantly being disappointed in love. The men whom I could love simply don’t love me back. The only guy who ever stuck around for me was the one I wasn’t in love with. When I was a child my father rejected me, and ever since then the same thing has been happening with the men that I care for.
I fall for hypnotic, charismatic men who know how to influence their surroundings. They are capable of deep and powerful love. Unfortunately, I am never the person who receives it. To make it worse, two men I fell for are now madly in love with the same woman, who is ten years older than me. At the same time, after all this time I still don’t feel like I’ve met the person who can truly sweep me off my feet.
In other areas of my life I am independent and in charge, but in love I just feel like a victim. I’m starting to believe I have this terrible deep inadequacy that can never be erased. I need a lover who is as strong as I am, but my partners never seem to recognize my best qualities. What can I do? Am I simply destined to be unloved?
Unloved
United Kingdom
Dear Unloved,
I don’t believe anyone is destined to be unloved, but I know for sure that loves comes easier to some than others. And with Saturn ruling your 7th house and Venus in Scorpio square Saturn, you are clearly one of the others and for that I am sorry and I will try to help.
Saturn tied to Venus delays love in most cases, and if you read around you’ll be told that love comes later in life but I’d say there is no such guarantee. Love comes later in life to those willing to work for it. And I am sorry but this is just a fact and thinking otherwise is sort of like believing we all get rich in the end. Er… no we don’t!
So yes, Venus Saturn can love and be loved but you have to accept the conditions which most people just will not do. And I don’t mean to make this about me but I am going to use my personal life to illustrate this because I can’t see any other way to offer you something of substance that might actually help.
I don’t know if you read my blog regularly but I have a great love with a man I call the soldier. And our relationship is basically impossible. We are constantly thwarted. We are pounded in every way you can possibly imagine. With Saturn highly emphasized in both the synastry (aspects between charts) and the composite, we are delayed, screwed, blued and tattooed on a routine basis but we love each other and we hang in.
And we have found that by accepting the conditions and the limitations, the universe does support the relationship, but hey! No whining. No whining when sometimes weeks pass and we can’t see each other. No whining because other couples have it easier than we do. No whining even though we are pretty sure it will probably be years before we can actually be together. Getting the idea? Who would sign up for this?
Well you would if you were smart. Because the love is real and it is deep and with a chart like yours anything less well never satisfy. So here’s the point:
Forget the love that other people have because it has nothing to do with you. Be willing to redefine what it is you think you want because as you have noticed you’re not getting it. If you are consistently denied what you want, it might be productive to want something else.
For example, I want convenience! I want a man who lives right down the street who loves me like the man who does not live right down the street. And I want this new hologram man to be of the same quality of the man who comes with all the challenges and guess what? Too bad! That man does not exist. So I can pine for this thing that doesn’t exist or I can live in reality, yes? And you can do the same.
Ask the universe to send you a real love, not a fantasy love. Ask for something singular and hand-picked to challenge you. Then commit to doing absolutely whatever it takes to feed and maintain the relationship. And accept that pain is part of the deal. With a chart like yours, relationship at times will be absolutely grueling. You will be made to face your fear when you are scared to death but I can tell you firsthand the reward is in proportion.
What you’re doing is working the deprivation side of Saturn. No love is safe, see? No love = control. You’re going to have to work much, much harder. Believe it or not you’re shirking your duties here. It is much easier to say I don’t have or I will never get, then it is to go out and work for it.
And I am sorry but if I wrote this any other way this would have been crap for your purposes. La la la, you’ll find love late in life just isn’t going to cut it. The love is there, you’re just going to have to swim upstream to get it but here’s the trick: if you decide to do this you will find it exhilarating and incredibly satisfying. It’s the difference between working for your money and being handed it. Which of those experiences do you think is peak? Come to recognize you’ve got no interest in tutti-fruitti easy-peasy light-fare love and you’ll be on your way.
Good luck.
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The Pisces Perspective
Ask the collective
The soldier and I over the weekend. He’s a Pisces rising…
“So what do you think it means that you and I wind up here almost 30 years later?” I asked. We were walking back from convenience store eating life savers. “Exactly what do you make of it?”
“Well you can make choices in your life. And the choices can be right at the time or some of them can be wrong but no matter what you do you can’t escape your destiny.”
“We’re destined?”
“Well yeah, don’t you think? I think us being here together proves you can’t escape your destiny. I don’t care what we do, we’re not getting out of this. For example, you can kick me out again or I can leave you I suppose. But even if this is what we do I still think we’ll wind up in an old folks home together.”
“So then we’re 90 and we look at each other and think why didn’t we get this together when we were in our 40’s? Or in our teens?”
“Yeah. Except it doesn’t matter. P. It doesn’t matter what we do. We’re going to be together for a billion years anyway.”
“A billion? You actually think that?”
“Me and you? A billion years? Yeah, I think that. We have all the time in the world. This world or any other worlds that might be out there”
As soon as he said this I realized it was applicable to anything and everything. For example, what if you thought you had a billion years to solve your problem? Would you relax about it? And if you relaxed might the problem be easier to solve or even solve itself?
What if instead of a month, you had a billion years to lose that last 10 pounds? Would this help you?
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Argues With Her Husband About Stupid Things: Aquarius Sun, Jupiter Saturn Conjunct in Libra
Dear Elsa,
How do I stop always trying to be right? I am newlywed, and I don’t know if it is just the stress of being newly married, but my and my husband have been having arguing about stupid little things. I know I can’t always control everything and that I need to compromise, but I can’t get my head around it sometimes.
Help!
Aquarian
United States
Dear Aquarian,
What a terrific question - and better yet, the fact that you are asking it means there is hope for you! So let me talk to that Jupiter Saturn conjunction in Libra of yours.
First, you’re a born preacher. You’re someone ahead of your time with something to say and a way to say it. However humility factors here, as does maturity and a wide perspective. And the fact is, there is no such thing as “always right” or even as “right”. Because there is always going to be someone out there who can argue against you and win. A bigger fish, yes? There is always a bigger fish, or as the AMF used to say (a fellow Aquarian), ‘You’re not the only genius out there”.
And judging by your chart, chances are that you will someday have a platform for your teaching. So considering the large shoes you were born with, do you really want to spend you time bickering with your husband?
I didn’t think so. Stop it and stop it now. You are here to serve humanity, not here to micromanage your husband. Step up.
Good luck.
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