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The Way Of The Culture - You’re Down? Great, Let’s Kick You!
Astrology in real life
“Cold, cold, cold
Cold, cold, cold
Freezing, it was freezing in that hotel
I had no money, my special friend was gone
The TV set was busted so she went along
I called room, room service,
I’m down here on my knees
A peach or a pear, or a coconut please,
But they was cold…”
Lowell George (Aries… hot, hot, hot)
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Fixed Taurus / Scorpio Hate vs Saturn Neptune, Italian Style
Astrology in real life…
This is for fellow Italian astrologer, Maddalena at continued from the Italy / Italians blog...
“That’s the spirit, P,” the soldier said. “Give Italians someone to hate or be pissed off at and you’re doing them a favor.”
“Italians hate people, you think? Yeah, I guess that’s right.”
“Yeah, hell yeah it’s right. Italians love to hate and feud. Italians will hate you into the next century. Just add your name to the list son of bitch! The very long list that every Italian has.”
I laughed. “Yeah, it’s true. I have a list but then I forget who is on it.” (Saturn Neptune)
“I know you do but I don’t. I don’t forget shit. (Taurus) I know every bastard on my list by first last and middle name plus every other thing that I know about them that I will never forget. You get on my list, you stay on it and as for your list; don’t worry about it, P. I will keep track of your list and my list.”
“You will remember who I hate and remind me?”
“Uh huh.”
“Okay then.”
Do you have a list?
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Astrology Short And Sweet: Italy, Italians, And Jupiter’s Sense Of Adventure
Astrology in real life…
The soldier (Jupiter in Sagittarius) talks to me (Jupiter rising) about going to Italy and fact is, it does not take much for one to talk the other into an adventure….
“When we go to Italy…”
“We’re not going to Italy,” I said. “Why are we going to Italy?”
“Yes we are going to Italy. We’ll be in Italy some day I’m sure. Why don’t you want to go to Italy?”
“Well I have just never wanted to go. I am already Italian and they don’t want to see us over there. We’re Americans! Italian people don’t think Italians who are American are Italians. They hate us!”
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Jupiter In Sagittarius: Cultural Differences Between Asians, Westerners and Italians
Astrology in real life
Awhile back, HQ outlined the difference between the way Asian people make deals and the way the Western word negotiates. Basically, the Asians come up with what they thinks is fair to both sides… they come up with their best offer and they go to the other party and make it.
In contrast Westerners come in with a low offer, the other party makes a high counter-offer and the two settle somewhere in the middle. I think this is interesting. Either system seems to work fine as long as everyone understands what it is.
So I was thinking about Italians (as I would with Pluto uprooting my Moon / roots) and we have our ways too. They are Mafia-like, let’s face it. Continue reading Jupiter In Sagittarius: Cultural Differences Between Asians, Westerners and Italians
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And on the Jupiter in Sagittarius Front…
Astrology in Real Life
I frequently masquerade as the soldier. He is in a situation where he can’t make the calls that keep his life running smoothly. I am in the situation where I can, so I am forever calling people up and letting them assume I am him.
I can rattle off his birthday and his phone number. I can rattle off the last four digits of his social security number and on the fact, he has a man’s name?
Well it’s the funniest thing. These days when you call the cell phone company or whatever, you are generally talking to someone in India and his name is unusual enough, they don’t recognize it as male or female. In other cases, I think people do recognize I am giving a man’s name, but they are too PC to say anything. You know. I could be having a sex change!
But today, the gal in the pharmacy was our color and she knew for sure something was up with the name. At first she tried to change the spelling to the feminine version aka Claude and Claudia but when I nixed that, well next thing I knew, I was signing some stuff about privacy. And I just thought this a Jupiter in Sagittarius phenomenon. With all of us from various cultures in closer contact then we have ever been before, things like this happen.
I also think this is the main reason astrology is gaining popularity in the West. We can thank the Indians…
Are you aware of any effects of the big world getting smaller?
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Mars In Cancer: My Home Is Bigger Than Your Home!
Astrology in Real Life
Mars (fight) is in Cancer (home, roots). It’s in aspect to the soldier’s Mercury (communication) in Aries (fight) which is in aspect to Mars in his chart. I swear you can set a clock by this stuff.
“Ran into two guys speaking Portuguese today, P.”
“Yeah?” Continue reading Mars In Cancer: My Home Is Bigger Than Your Home!
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African American Woman With Indian Man- Can Marriage Result? Astrology-Based Advice
Dear Elsa,
I am an African American woman dating a Taurus man, who is Indian.
We have a great relationship. However in the beginning, he mentioned that in his culture people don’t marry outside of their race or state or village - something to that sort. But he says he loves me and could see a life with me. He is sure it will be difficult at first for his family to accept… we have been together a little over a year. He is a loner. He likes to be alone a lot… like watching TV and relaxing. But when I am around he is caring and affectionate, unless sports are on. I wonder if I should take this as an indication of how he feels… or does he just like being alone?
I mostly wonder if this relationship can work. Could we be married in the future? I am not sure if there is a way to ever know this or if he is dating me to date. When he went home to Kerala, he showed his family my pictures introducing me as a very close friend.
When he was a lot younger, he dated a girl from Bangladesh; his family was not happy and didn’t want them to marry. He has a lot of fears about being a husband. He doesn’t want to fail at it. I think he is scared because his parents gave him their blessing but he still passed on marrying the other girl. I don’t know what to feel about this… can you offer in insight?
12th House Sun in Libra
United States
Dear 12th House,
I can’t tell you what will happen in the future because people have free will, but I can tell you your situation makes me uncomfortable for a long list of reasons. I’ll lay them out with this caveat: I am not you. So we don’t have to worry about my comfort with your relationship; however, you’re asking for an outside perspective so I am going to oblige.
First, just in general, I subscribe to the “If you have to ask…” idea when it comes to relationships. If you have to ask if the relationship is good for you, it is almost guaranteed it is not. But beyond that, I want to point out a few things.
Your whole mail is about him. You are waiting to have feelings based on what he feels or he does. For example, how do you feel about being called a ‘good friend” when you are in fact a lover? How do you feel about dating and sleeping with someone who’s told you he cannot marry due his customs? How do you really feel about the fact he lies around and watches TV a lot?
You have a 12th house Sun, and planets in Virgo and I feel you are in sacrificing yourself to this man. You are in service to him, which is fine as long as you are aware of it. You also have a Cancer Moon and I suspect you are doing a fair amount of mothering.
So what do you think? Does this sound like the life you want? Because people don’t change their natures all that much. Matter of fact, they tend to become even more the way they are which means this guy is going to be on that couch for a very long time.
Good luck.
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Her Father Beat Up The Boy She Loves: Scorpio Sun, Virgo Moon
Dear Elsa,
I know because I’m young I must have no idea what love is. But there’s this Scorpio boy who lives in my village and I’ve known him basically all my life. He was my first crush, that was when I was 10 and he was 13. He never knew I had feelings for him, until one day this July when we both admitted it to each other over the internet. He told me that his past relationships were bad and wanted ours to work out so we’d take it slow, as he would have been my first boyfriend and as well as first everything else.
Last Thursday my father beat him up. My father said he had no problem with us talking but if I was outside the house and yard then there was a problem but he also claimed to have said it to us both. That doesn’t matter. What does matter is that the love of my life said that Thursday night that he promises never to speak to me again and he’s keeping it, because I tried calling him, I got no answer and then when he picked up he asked who it was, and when I told him he hung up. I can’t bear it, I now know what grownups call heartbreak and under the circumstances my love will never be with me.
WHAT CAN I DO, MS. ELSA? I’ve never felt so hurt before, I feel as though I’m dying and the tears just can’t stop. Please tell me if there’s any way he’ll come around and forgive me or my father… I still love him.
Girl In Love
Trinidad
Dear Love,
I am very sorry for how the way you are hurting and I do not think that because you are young (almost 18) that you do not know anything about love. It is clear you are a sensitive young woman with an open heart and that is all it takes to feel love. That said, you’ve got a real problem with your Dad.
Now it’s not clear if he is typically violent. I don’t know if he beats you, if he beats others, or if he went off on some kind of crazed attack in a misguided attempt to protect his daughter. What is clear is you are not going to be able to date with your father around, unless some changes are made.
If you have some semblance of a relationship with your father - which is sounds like you might - then please try to reason with him. Try to get him to see that you are growing up and he must step aside and allow you to develop. Perhaps this is possible. Does he have remorse what he has done? If he does, then you probably have a chance to reason with him.
On the other hand, if he is beating you and if he is just an incorrigible controlling tyrant, then I am afraid you are going to have to plot your way out of there so that you can conduct your life and have a boyfriend without fearing violent attack.
There is a third scenario. It is possible this boy broke the rules of your culture by seeing you without first securing your father’s permission. If this is the case, your father obviously overreacted but it is worth noting.
As for the boy… people may not like it but I am disappointed in him for abandoning you. I acknowledge it is possible he did it to protect you. You did not tell us if your father beat you or not, see. But let me answer your direct question:
Is there a chance the boy will come around? There is a chance. If you are meant to be with him he most certainly will, but his not answering your calls suggests he is not as serious about you as you are about him. And let’s not forget this boy reported having troubled relationships in the past. He seemed to be telling you in advance there was going to be a problem.
Will he forgive you and your father? You are not responsible for your father’s violent act so you do not need to be forgiven, you’ve done nothing wrong. As to how he feels about your father, it does not appear he wants to negotiate this, but rather he would like to escape the situation, leaving you holding the bag.
You sound like a very nice, very loving young woman and your chart is grand. I say figure out how you’re going to manage your father if this is possible, or otherwise how you are going to get out of that house and have a life.
And if this is cultural… well the next boy you meet, please tell him what he’s got to do to garner your father’s permission to date you. And if he won’t do it, you will know he’s the wrong boy.
Good luck and again I am very sorry for your pain.
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Felipe: Sun Conjunct Jupiter in Cancer… and Various Other Sundries
Commenting on the comments…
joana asked regarding Felipe:
“I like Felipe too, even though I don’t know him, but he was really sweet to you and you were sweet to him. Do you mean it’s the Sun-Jup conjunction that reflects his immigration status? Or is it because it’s in Cancer? It could mean he makes a home (cancer) when exploring foreign places maybe.”
Joana - Yeah, Jupiter is international so conjunct the Sun makes an honorary Sagittarian. Jupiter is exalted in Cancer so it’s really nice aspect there. Felipe was interested in where the soldier had been and the languages he could speak. He guessed he could speak Portuguese for example, and German and other languages and he said he would really like to learn all these languages himself and you could see that he meant it. He came across as a diplomat and his Libra explains that. And in fact his mail was titled:
“saludos de *his town*”
See? The guy is a natural ambassador.
He also has Venus and Mars in Virgo which is pretty reserved and helps offset the potential of the inflated ego you can get with Sun Jupiter. Bottom line, the guy’s energy is very fine, with Moon Pluto smokin’ down below and I like people like this. Basically good, with a lot of tricks.
What kind of people do you like?
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