Do you have an emphasis on the Cardinal signs? Think you can control others? This goat says, best think again.

Over the last couple days there have been a slew of comments that characterize Virgos as controlling. I don’t get this at all. I consider the Cardinal signs to be the control freaks of the zodiac without question.

Now don’t get pissed off at me, I have both Capricorn and Libra prominent and it takes one to know but for the people who think Virgos are controlling - Please ’splain to Lucy.

In my mind, Virgos communicate what is wrong with you and then go off to do their other work. Um…

Who is the control freak King (or Queen) of the zodiac?

Another story of authority meeting authority…. Saturn in Virgo overtones and catch up on this topic here: Young Women With Authority Over The Authority Figure

Quit fixing people… you’re making me craazy! A Saturn in Virgo Rant

Valkyrie wrote on the Giving blog:

I’ve been learning to dislodge the notion it’s better to give than receive. I think it’s equally important to give and receive, and those who can’t receive well probably can’t take in new energy either.

(snip)

This has become a lot clearer to me since reading about pluto/scorpio interchanges of energy on this blog over the last 6 months or so. The image I have is this feedback loop-A sends energy -> B, who processes it and -> A -> B -> A etc. in a some kind of circular interchange.

I responded:

Valkyrie - Yeah, like sex. Not much fun to have sex with someone who cannot receive…

Continue reading Control Freaks… “Man You’re Some Kind Of Sinner!”

What’s a dog to do?

Charlotte asks during a discussion on the “Splainin’ Myself” blog:

“…it is more like challenging someone. Isn’t that (reportedly) a good thing? Saying to someone, “I know you can do better” isn’t the same as “You must be more like this or like that” is it? It’s a fine line I suppose, where one can make you evolve and grow whereas the other makes you feel like crap.”

Charlotte - Assuming the person has not asked for feedback, I don’t see the difference between these two approaches. In both cases you are imposing your judgment and your priorities on the other person which to a person like me feels like a pure assault.
Continue reading Saturn In Virgo: Control Is Control Is Control Is Control Is…

As the day wears on the Moon mixes it up with the Mars Pluto opposition and you can expect power struggles to crop up in partnerships and also in families. The core issue is control and as always you can fare well by controlling yourself rather than attempting to control others because just remember this:

Even if you are successful in the short term, they will hate you so is it really worth it?

Never mind whenever you bind someone you wind up bound yourself whether you realize it or not.

Dear Fishing,

You’ve been writing me for years and I am glad you got out of your sexless marriage and are now getting laid. And I have always sided with you when you’ve written me; but this time I’m not sure I can. You are madly in love but on the other hand this guy is a “stepping stone”? Jesus Christ, what is that?

Everyone knows I loathe dependent mama’s boys, but this story does not jibe with the chart. What you’ve got here is an ultra independent person who is going to spend his money on anything he damned well pleases which seems entirely appropriate to me. That you buy his groceries is your choice and your problem… I am pretty sure if you stop, this man will still eat!

Same with the lecture on his lack of responsibility. I’m sorry but I can just see myself in this guy’s shoes. And I know how your attempts to dictate my priorities would go over with me. I’d tell you to go screw yourself and I am not trying to be mean. I just want to get your attention. Because you say you love this guy. You say he is treating you well and it sounds to me the problems are all stemming from the fact he will not allow you to fix him (Virgo Moon) and dictate his life (Venus, Mars, Saturn in Cardinal signs). Well, gee. I don’t blame him.

If you don’t like how he manages his money, then keep yours separate. If you don’t like being his personal assistant, then quit running his errands. If you don’t want to be his nanny, then quit wiping the crumbs from his mouth as if he is a child and see if this doesn’t solve your problem and leave him to solve his. Because otherwise this is essentially what you are saying:

“If this guy doesn’t do what I want when I want, then I’m leaving!”

Well, hell. If it’s that important that you run another person’s life, you may as well - and let me give an example outside your sphere to make sure you see what you’re doing here.

My ex thinks I talk on the phone too much. This is his judgment. What do you think about that? Should I ask him how much phone-talking would be appropriate or should I tell him to go screw himself?

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

Good luck.

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I was talking to the soldier:

“Well I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to say anything about that because it’s not my business,” I said. “I try to stay out of other people’s business completely. I’d don’t like pissing people off by telling them what I think about things that are none of my business in the first place.”

“Bothering me? You don’t bother me. I want you in my business. I’m want you to figure out some of the stuff I don’t have time to figure it out myself. In fact I’m relying on you. So you stop this staying out of my business! Do you hear me? Come on, P. Get in my business and get it in now because that’s exactly what I want.”

When I was young I was a textbook Capricorn control freak but I have very strong boundaries now that rarely fail and if you want me in your business you have to dismantle them like this. I have to be invited or asked directly for input or energy. Otherwise?

Otherwise, nothing.

What about you?