Oct
18

Man In Love With A Battered Woman: Astrology-Based Advice

Dear Elsa,

I was dating this girl for four months before her ex boyfriend moved back home and she went back to him, though it took a while. He is no good to her though. He beats on her and he really disrespects her. She’s 21 years old and she’s been with him for 3 years.

Even though she’s back with him, I know that she still wants to be with me. We still have sex, we still spend time with each other, she still tells me that she loves me.

Even her friends tell me that she wants to be with me, they also tell me that she tells them that she thinks about me all the time but she’s still with him. I love her with all the pieces of my heart and I will never do anything to hurt her. How do I win her over??

Pisces Moon
United States

pisces cuff linksDear Pisces,

Your chart is tragic when it comes to the potential to deny reality and sacrifice yourself in relationship. I understand and appreciate your desire to save this woman and I will even try to help you in your pursuit. But it seems a matter of responsibility, I mention I think you would be better trying to save yourself from being in love with a woman who claims to love and want you, while she sleeps with another man. But enough of the lecture.

This girl you love is definitely in trouble. However there is little you can do but throw your energy down a black hole - until and unless you become willing and able to allow the addict (she is addicted to him and you to her) to hit bottom. Point being, as long as you’re hanging around ready to catch her, there is a virtual guarantee she will stay in her precarious situation so if you want to see change, you are going to have to be the one who makes it.

I recommend you tell her that you love and want her but you can no longer see her if she going to be with another man, particularly one who beats her. Say it once and mean it.

If you can manage this and if you can manage to take your energy off her, she will have a chance as he pulls back his fist to hit her yet again to think, “What the hell am I doing here? Pisces Moon is down the street and he loves me…”

But there will be no chance of this ever happening if you don’t lay down some kind of boundary and stick to it so this is what I advise you do.

And if you attempt this and can’t manage to stick to your guns, I would urge you to get counseling yourself around finding a way to manage your extreme urge to climb up on crosses and hang from them.

Last, I would also recommend you read up on battered woman. Talk to the professionals who work with these women because I used to be a volunteer and I am sure they will tell you in a no frills manner that you absolutely cannot help these women when they don’t want to help themselves.

Good luck.

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Sep
18

The Hair Stylist and the Battered Woman

Astrology in real life…

battered womanThe planetary train wreck in the sky, boldly wrought in real life.:

I just heard from my friend, satori who is a stylist. She is on her way to “change the appearance” of a battered woman as recommended by the police. We both feel if a woman in is that much danger she would be better off to leave town. Hair color and cut is just not going to do it in a small(ish) town.

We are pretty sure the police told her same, if they tell you one, they tell you the other but there is another man in the picture. The gal is coming to the appointment with her boyfriend and you can just think about that.

Venus opposite Neptune… the gal obscures her appearance but she is kidding herself.

Mars opposite Pluto - well let’s just say I think this gal ought to get out of town, tonight. I’d leave the new boyfriend while I was at it. As satori pointed out, “Odd are he’s a batterer too. And if the ex is looking for her won’t he be looking for him? Then why is he leaving his appearance the same? He’ll get to her through him.”

It’s a gross story. I am giving it air to give it energy because these things fester undercover. satori knows a lot about this kind of thing (and has a Scorpio Mars). She’s going to do what she can.

Ugh.


Mar
23

Her Sister Is Dating A Violent Abusive Man - She’s Afraid She’ll Be Killed: Cancer Sun, Pisces Rising

Hi Elsa,

My sister is dating a man who is physically and emotionally abusive. He has hit, shoved, pushed and slapped her. He has called her names, made her feel ugly, and worthless. He cheats on her openly and unapologetically.

Once he even got my sister to unwittingly aid him in helping a murderer flee the country, by telling her they were driving him to the airport so he could go home for Christmas. No charges were brought up against the boyfriend for aiding the perpetrator because he cooperated with the detectives. So much for justice. All my sister can do is defend her boyfriend for helping this evil man.

Needless to say, my family is up in arms. We have all tried to extract her from the relationship; we have lent love and support to her endlessly. We have tried to get her counseling, we have tried talking to her, we have tried everything, yet she continues to makes excuses for this bastard.

The only advice I have gotten is to let her make her own mistakes; let her do this her own way, because I cannot change her. I understand that but - only problem is that she is my sister, and I love her, and I am afraid he will end up severely injuring or possibly killing her.

They say that many women who gravitate and stay in abusive relationships do so because they have a weak support system or feel as if they have nowhere to go, but my sister has a VERY strong one. Me, her friends, and her entire family (including aunts and uncles and cousins) have all lent support, money, places to stay, and of course, lots of love and understanding.

My sister is now trying very hard to burn her bridges with us all. She ignores us and is rude to us. None of us fall for it; none of us take the antagonistic bait. We just continue to love her. We have even backed off about trying to get her to stop seeing him, so that she doesn’t have to feel defensive all the time.

With all that said, I’m at a complete loss. How can I sit back and let my sister be physically, emotionally, and spiritually harmed this way? I understand I cannot change her. But DAMN, I can’t sit back and let her be killed or hurt!

I am terrified that before I know it, I will be doing the eulogy at her funeral… how can I let this happen to someone I love?

Sister
United States

battered womenDear Sister,

I feel sorry for you. Your problem is horrendous and I would like to have some kind of neat trick to fix but I don’t think that one exists. Now I hear you loud and clear. You are afraid your sister is going to die and obviously your concern is valid but I have worked for the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence and am afraid what the others have told you is correct. You cannot help a battered woman who does want your help.

So what I’ll try to do is give you information that might will allow you to see this. Because as it is… you are too close in and too attached to be objective. So please forget your problems for minute and focus on this other woman that I am going to make up.

Her husband drinks. He drinks often and he drinks heavy. He drives around like this and she’s scared. She knows that eventually he is going to get hurt or killed or hurt or kill someone else if she can’t get him to stop drinking, so she tries to get him to stop drinking.

She loves him unconditionally, but he still drinks. She takes him to the doctor who tells him his liver is failing but he still drinks. He eventually drinks so much he can’t keep up with the bills and she tries to cover for him, but she’s so tired. She’s exhausted trying to clean up after him and love and love and love and love him, and compromised like this she gets even more frantic to save him.

Meanwhile he’s not worried at all. He’s just living, you know. Like your sister. And though this wife is correct (her husband is on a crash course), this is the point to get:

The sooner they crash, the better. And I know this is counterintuitive but it’s a fact. If your sister has any hope at all, she has got to hit the wall and you are not helping her when you take steps to prevent this. Because things like this progress! They get worse. So if your sister hits bottom in a week, there will be less damage than if it takes her five years. And if you can understand that you can see that slowing this process is not in her best interest. And if you pull your support, do you risk her life?

NO! Her life is already at risk, wouldn’t you say? You hovering over her is not working. It might have worked, except it didn’t, so now you have to try something new… as does the wife of the alcoholic.

If she quits supporting this guy might he drive his car off a cliff while impaired? Well, yeah. But he was already going to do that. On the other hand if she leaves him alone in the dark in his room with nothing but his bottle… well just think about it. Which tactic do you think is going to get him to treatment faster?

Same with your sister. She’s got her whole family worried sick about her. But what if every single one of you told her, “Look. We love you, but we are not going to watch this guy kill you. We are not going to witness this for the sake of our own psyches. So we’re going to walk now. And if you decide you want help to get out of this situation… well it will be there. But until then, don’t call us…”

This may be the hardest thing you might ever do, but I think it’s your best shot. So this is my advice, with one more bit.

I also recommend you take this outside the family, like you did when you wrote me. Call the battered women centers and talk to the experts because they are incredibly knowledgeable and you are just too close to this situation to look at it in a clinical way and they can help you with that.

When women like your sister call the battered women resources and want to talk about what he did last night, they ask them if they want to leave. And when they say no, they tell them to call back when they do. And then they hang up!

This is like listening to the alcoholic tell you about his hangover. “Call me when you want to get sober, babe. Till then you’re on your own…”

Yep. Sometimes people die. But if you want to raise the odds against that, this is how it is done.

Good luck.

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Feb
15

Her Man is an Abusive Alcoholic Cokehead - Should She Go Back To Him? Taurus Sun, Leo Moon

Hi Elsa,

I’m currently living in Costa Rica, Central America, but am originally from Toronto, Canada. I have been in a year long relationship with a Costa Rican man who is 10 yrs older than me, but have recently left him. I am still trying to “make it” in Costa Rica if I can.

The main reason I left was because he got drunk and coked up one night and freaked out on me. I wasn’t in that state as all. I’d had a half a beer and I don’t do cocaine. He is an alcoholic that has been trying to take it easy. He has done cocaine, admits to liking it, but claims that he is not an addict.

The reason he ended up freaking out: he became physically aggressive, grabbing me, cornering me into walls, seeming like he was going to hit me, and spitting on me. He also wrapped his hands around my neck and put a little squeeze on it; he claims it was to “calm me down”. He admitted to all these awful things, and begged and cried for my forgiveness amongst other things.

It wasn’t the first incident with him but not to that degree. I knew getting into the relationship with him that he had issues, but thought that old cliche that our love would fix everything. Now I am in a situation where I am in a foreign country where things are just different then what I am used to. I do love it here and want to try and make a life.

The thing is this: I’ve only had email contact with him and 1 phone conversation over the past 2 weeks. He is doing all that classic textbook stuff, liking begging me to come back, he’ll change, he loves me more then anything. etc. etc. He wants to go to counseling and I am somewhat considering it. My question is this: can men who have drinking issues, anger issues, jealousy issues and have also been physically abusive BUT seem genuinely willing to change… can they change? Really?

I do love him but I’m at a crossroads. Do I just move because he really won’t change? Or do I give it a small go and at the very least try and attend one session with a therapist together, so that he can truly understand that what he did was unacceptable and he ever wants happiness in his life he needs to work on these things? I know that I am not perfect but know I deserve a good man, I feel like he could be in the future if he really works on himself but am confused.

Does any of this make sense?

Abused Woman in a Foreign Land
Canada

battered womanDear Woman,

Your man is doing all the classic alcoholic/abuser things and if you go back to him in any capacity, you will be doing all the classic co-dependent/abuse victim things. So is this what you want? I don’t think so. But you need support. Because what you are trying to do is very challenging. And I’ll get to that, but first let me answer your questions…

Yes, it is possible someone can recover from this level of pathology - but I would imagine it might take five years (give or take) of diligent effort consistently applied and the odds this guy is going to do that are virtually ZERO.

And you can loop around with him as long as you like. I am sure he will go ’round with you as many times as you will allow but personally, he sounds ultra-dangerous to me and I would urge you not just to stay away from him, but to take any means possible to secure your safety.

Because he’s choking you, okay? And he’s probably in blackout when he does it. Who knows! He’s in an altered state. He is out of control. And your showing up at a session with a therapist is going to do nothing but waste your time. Don’t you have enough problems? I think you do.

We’re talking about a 45 year old man, here. You don’t think he can figure it out? You think it’s your job to figure it out for him? I disagree.

Look. Get yourself hooked up with Al-Anon. Get yourself hooked up with support for battered women. Get yourself this excellent book with a very stupid and misleading title, "Getting Them Sober"because it is the best book in the entire world for a woman like you (read the reviews).

If you have trouble finding Al-Anon in Costa Rica, you can participate online here: Al Anon Family Group Message Board

Good luck.

~~
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Nov
3

He’s Violent and She’s Walking On Eggshells: Mars, Uranus, Jupiter in a T-Square

Dear Elsa,

In January this year, I met the man I am with. He says he loves me very much; however, he has a bad temper and reacts to the slightest thing. We have moved in together and I find I am walking on eggshells.

What is in store for me? Please help.

Frightened

mars godDear Frightened,

I can’t tell you what is in store for you, because it is dependent on what you do next. I am forever harping about women using their Mars, that is, their male energy. It is very important you assert yourself. It is critical that you do something about your situation, otherwise I am quite certain you are going to continue to be hurt.

See, he’s not going to stop. And the more he beats you down, the more he is going to beat you down. And the more beat down you get, the harder it is going to be to get yourself out of this.

Now you post is vague so I am not exactly sure what’s happening to you but I do know these things always get worse over time. Even when it stops, it starts back up and the sooner you decide to fight back, the sooner you’ll be free of this - and the sooner you are free of this, the less damage he will have had a chance to inflict and the shorter your recovery time. So considering all this, I would suggest you start plotting a way out of this relationship… this minute.

If you don’t know how or where to start, keep doing what you did when you wrote me. Reach out and tell people what is going on with you. Do not keep his secrets. You were born in India and I don’t know if you still live there, or what resources may exist, but I do know help of some kind is always available to anyone who asserts themselves with conviction.

So if you have access to a “battered women’s hotline”, call them. The National Domestic Violence Hotline in the United States is 1-800-799-SAFE. There are people there who are very knowledgeable about your situation and I would know because I used to be one of them. They can help you map your way out and support you every step of the way.

See, here’s the thing to know. You have anger and rage inside of you. And if you don’t accept this and access your energy and apply it a healthy way, you are going to meet it outside yourself. Get it? If you won’t assert yourself, you can expect to asserted upon. But if you are willing to fight and to act in your own best interest… well, your chart is formidable and I have no doubt you can get out of this relationship and go on to have any life you want.

Good luck.

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