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“Horrible Things Women Do To Other Women” The Astrology On That Is…
Ask the collective
mimi mottet asks on Self Esteem - Got Any?
“Do you have anything to say about Women Who Are Jealous of Other Women for no particular reason? There are lots of websites dedicated to the Horrible Things Women Do To Other Women. It’s an old story but I’d like to hear your philosophical (or astrological) take.”
I know very little about nasty women, probably because I avoid them like the plague.
As for the astrology, I have Jupiter flavored Moon and my experiences with women range anywhere from good to excellent. When I do have an experience otherwise, it is short and sweet, like about 5 minutes because I just have no interest at all.
You guys may notice my sister (also Jupiter Moon) is kind and generous with other women, this is a our nature. I just did not grow up with back-stabbing at all.
The gal I mentioned who helped me and then died when I was 16 is another example that is typcial of my interaction with women. There is another woman on this blog sending me one of her dresses in case I want to wear it to my wedding so there you go.
As for the astrology, Jupiter mashed with the Moon definitely offers protection. Others are not so lucky so maybe they’ll weigh in here.
If you draw vicious women (or if you are a one), where is your Moon and how is it aspected?
17 Responses to ““Horrible Things Women Do To Other Women” The Astrology On That Is…”
I remember a period in my life, I guess I was about 24 or so, where for about a year, older women in their 40s were really cruel to me, over weird things.
For example, I was in a cooking class, and we teamed up and were making some kind of pancake thing. And this woman kept berating me about my cooking. She wasn’t even my partner! There was another woman that same year who kept singling me out at a book club I was in, she was quite mean, when it was really just supposed to be fun…?
I have a lot more backbone now than I did then, so I don’t know if people have stopped, or if I’m just better at shutting it down. Nowadays, I’m rarely the object of nasty women. Maybe I don’t have anything they want!
I chalked that time period up to our society’s obsession with youth, and how that makes some older women feel devalued. *I* didn’t devalue them, if anything, I was indifferent. I’m not sure what all that was about, if it happened to me today, I would have a clear, direct conversation about it. Back then, I just became avoidant. I wish I had known about astrology then, I’m sure I was having some sort of transit (or they were, or both).
I draw women in general.
Overwhelming at times, like they all want a piece of me hmm maybe I shld date women instead of men…
My experiences are generally good. Have always had good friends and they’ve really come thru during my saturn transit.
Mars in cancer, btw
Moon and jupiter semi-sextile but I don’t usually consider that aspect…
Moon pluto conjunct in 1st house
As for drawing vicious women, well for the first time in my life, I have enemies. This year have drawn women who can become vicious, yes.
Saturn on moon-pluto maybe? Not sure.
I used to draw vicious women in my teen years. After that, there was probably a couple jealous women I’ve encountered but I wouldn’t say they are vicious.
Women are drawn to me because of my compassionate nature and my passion for personal style. I was also told that I wasn’t judgmental, very down to earth and very easy to talk to. Although I have these qualities, I still have something of a defence mechanism against jealous women - mainly because I am one myself. I am aware I am jealous though, which is why I have made it a point to do what I can to face my inadequacies and help myself feel like a “whole” person.
Moon in Cancer, sextile Venus and Saturn, trine Uranus, square Pluto. The latter aspect explains why I draw jealous, controlling women towards me (and why I’m jealous myself) -_-
I have a Mars/Moon/Jupiter conjunction in Cancer ( square my Libra Sun) and I had a tumultuous relationship with my mother while I was growing up.Now that I am in a different country,it is congenial enough.I would not say we are close though.
I used to attract a lot of jealous/domineering (maybe it’s Pluto conjunct my Sun?)girlfriends as well as general tension from other women until I started unloading my issues concerning my mother through therapy and various forms of spiritual work. Now that I understand the root issue and I am conscious of my role,I guess I have actually activated the Jupiter-aspect of this cluster and my relationships with women are generally warm and mutually beneficial. I find since I have turned thirty that women are my biggest allies.
Now,although I still get the occasional treachery ( funnily,I am dealing with this now in the form of a Libra girlfriend who I thought wanted the best for me-until it actually happened) since it is not my focus, I have a better handle on my emotions.But it still hurts.I have also learned to stop internalizing and that way I define my relationships with women in an empowering,positive,fearless way and that is extremely liberating.
It was a decision on my part not to operate in the realm of negativity where women are concerned and my reward(Jupiter?) has been a new take on my own power and my contribution to relationships and true sisterhood.
I forgot to add that my Sun(Libra) is actually in the 11th house and my moon(Cancer) is in the 7th -talk about being “other”-directed…whoa!
I never really had good relations with women in general. In elementary, I was ostracized by this girl who would tell lies about me for no real reason. I had no friends in school because of everything she said about me. Later in high school, I confronted her and she never admitted to anything.. even denied it. In college, it was mostly the same thing!
My moon is in Pisces, sextile Mercury, conjunct Mars and Venus in Pisces, square Neptune and my ascendant in cancer. I think Pisces and Neptunian energy is all about secret ennemies.. or friend-ennemy!!!
I learned to be less insecure and a thicker skin!
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trine pluto. in the sixth.
imagine. at work and, when i was a kid, at school.
or maybe i’m drawn to them. got to work on that.
yes, i bring on both good and bad….my pisces moon sextiling jupiter for the good hits…but squaring mars…maybe this is the hostility factor?
And….that is, hostility/jealousy/backstabbing…drawing it towards me…not being particularly viscious myself although i’ve learned to show my teeth in my older age
My Moon is in the 8th (in Libra), smack up against Pluto & directly across from my Sun & Mercury. What I feel is significant, astrologically, is the fact that it trines Venus, Mars & Saturn (all in my 4th).
I have “iffy” relationships w/older women. If they take a “motherly” position, it all goes to hell quite fast. (Mars conj. Saturn in 4th)
With women around my age, we get along “ok”…have dealt w/jealousy/backstabbing, etc., but it’s gotten to the point now where I just ignore them til they get tired of trying to bring me down. I think these individuals try to hurt everyone though, not just other women.
I get along best w/younger women. I tend to take the “motherly” role then & usually act as a mentor of sorts. It has been common throughout my life that I get along much better with younger women.
Of course, my chart is also extremely Yang, so I tend to attract very Yin women (I assume due to my Moon’s placement in Libra - trying to create balance). And I’ve noticed that very Yin women tend to be nicer to other women. Maybe that’s just my impression, but I don’t get along well w/other women who are rather Yang themselves. It’s kind of an “alpha dog” type thing, where there can be only one…lol
interesting - moon mars conjunct in scorpio and, like Neptunian, had/have an intense, manipulative and potentially dangerous relationship with my mother - ongoing in my life - her 75 and me 40 now. I have always preferred male company, but have never been unkind to women. I did work for a slightly older woman once when my kids were very young - she did not have children and wanted. She was really nasty to me for a number of years and often in front of clients would shout at me and put me down…which was completely humiliating to my Leo rising. Now my couple of women friends are fundamentally important in my life - accompanying each others growth and daily challenges. Perhaps it is age, perhaps it is changing times, but women seem to be much more supportive of each other in the workplace these days.
Wow Diastella…I feel for you, although my mother was more of the controlling,intensely self-centred,emotionally-distant type, who showed her love by keeping everything spotless and cooking when she was tired(even though we told her she did not have to),etc… and then resenting what she needed to do as a mother (did I say self-centred?) I understand your pain.
I think the energy you were pulling in from your boss was due to the pattern which needed to be resolved from your relationship with your mother. Since you carry the pattern with you, then you just needed a surrogate to fill in. Most likely, whoever played that role for you(like your ex-boss) had similar dynamics growing up and sniffed out your issues subconsciously.I did the same thing for a while with women who clearly played on my weaknesses.
An aside…You know what I notice with people who have moon in Scorpio is that they often have been deeply hurt by their mothers.Like, being ’stung’(Scorpio) emotionally by the mother (Moon).My fiance has a scorpio moon( opposing his taurus mars) and he has deep pain concerning his mother, who he was separated from early-a long story.
Also, my ex had the same sun/moon(Virgo/Scorpio) combo and had very similar issues.Interestingly…so does my little bro. (Gemini sun,scorpio moon,venus and mars in scorpio-If I recall correctly).Hmmm, don’t know if anyone else noticed it….
yes, Cap moon in 7th in t-square, also conjunct neptune in 6th. I get along well with older women, love motherly women and confident women, but women my own age give me trouble. I’ve had “frenemies” who show their true colors as soon as something good happens for me, and secretly gloat when something goes wrong. Takers, users, selfish women, jealousy/backstabbing behavior, mean comments, just overall b*tchiness. It’s disgusting. I keep a safe distance and won’t get too close for this reason. I used to avoid and hide, now I’ve gotten better at recognizing it and cutting things off asap. The whole “amputate” thing I’ve learned to do mainly in these types of relationships to protect myself. For all this crap, I do like women and support/defend women given the opportunity. Because men can be capable of doing horrible things to women too.
Neptunian - I’ve noticed it too. It’s painful to see, even worse to hear about, and awful to experience. It leaves a nasty scar and gets aggravated anytime emotions get stirred up. I have Libra Pluto in 4th and draw venus-pluto and scorpio moon quite a bit - and almost all of them have some deeply painful relationship with their mothers.
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Interesting article. I am very aware that women can do really nasty things to one another but I haven’t had too many experiences of that first hand, at least not since elementary school. My Aries moon in 7th house sextiles my Gemini Jupiter in the 9th. In the few instances that a woman acted mean and horrible to me it was never for no reason at all - it was over a man that we both liked.