Elsa, that puzzles me. But you’re right, we’re never going to know what was behind that un-doing of the good action. Nevertheless, I can’t accept the possibility that it had anything to do with you not thanking them enough or anything like that, you shouldn’t doubt yourself or your good-will. I want to believe that it wasn’t a mean thing, probably something happened that was beyond their control.

I must not have neptune. I’ve never experienced this, but it is very interesting.

Oh yeah, LOVE Steven Arroyo!!! good Libra astrologer he is!!

YES!! One Xmas,when I was a teen-age brat,my older sister bought a beautiful silk scarf for me.I know because I snuck in under the tree and unwrapped it to peek.I was thrilled that she thought enough of me to do something so extravagant.Who knew she loved me like that?Well,Christmas morning the gift was swapped for some crappy perfume that I didn’t like,Charlie or some such dimestore rot!Where went my beautiful scarf?Wha?!I never asked her about it,never saw her wear it or give it to anyone else.To this day I have no idea what happened to it.Venus in 12th square Neptune in 3rd(siblings!).

I have Neptune in 12th and Venus in 10th and tend to receive crappy gifts, although I believe I give generous, thoughtful gifts. For example, last year, my BF wrapped up a gift he received for HIS birthday and gave it to me–not my size nor my color (a man’s shirt). On another note, a site dedicated to books, called http://www.bookmooch.com, lets users give their unwanted books away and ask for books they want. It works beautifully and all you pay is postage.

Elsa, I’ve been meaning to write for ages to say how much I like the video blogs. The one about Geminis and light shoes made me laugh - I am a Gemini and now I realise why during the days of the Doc Martens fad (remember those?), I would only wear mine once or twice and then hardly ever. Now I know!

Anyway, as for Venus-Neptune aspects. I have Venus quincunx Neptune. Now that I think about it, I’ve rarely had gifts that make me go, “Wow, I’ve always wanted that!” Not that I didn’t appreciate the gifts that I got, I did, but it always seemed that people could never quite put their fingers on what I wanted (I’m not sure I could, either!).

Thank you.

^ Hey that’s right! ^

At first I didn’t think this applied so much to my Venus-Neptune opposition. But what hitchhiker said applies: I’m rarely (if ever?) gifted with what’s specifically and personally meant to be satisfying to me. It’s like they’re lazy and can’t be bothered to know me so assume (ass-u-me) I’d just like what they’d like.

Example: my cerebral, head in the clouds and books father got me for my 12th birthday an advanced astronomy book. One year I got a fancy calculator (he was an actuary). Usually he’d farm out the gift-getting to someone like a secretary, so at least it was gender-appropriate then…

My mother would get gifts for me like a really scratchy uncomfortable (cheap!) nightie (imagine that for a Taurus Venus) and a couple years ago I got from her something made of fur and suede when I’m an animal lover who, if I had more control over my life, would probably become staunchly anti- the use of animals for that kind of stuff. Sometimes I anticipate disapointment so much when getting something from her I’d like to cram the box in the charity bin before opening it.

Gift-giving is really I sign that you value someone enough to know them ~ it really says something that, especially in my family, simply giving money took the place of gifting. It’s viewed as more ‘expedient’, but it’s quite an insult isn’t it. ‘I don’t have the time / interest / inclination to know you and would like to write off that uncomfortable debt by signing my name on a check instead. The outside world and it’s workaday demands take precedence over our relationship, or over relating in general.’

Don’t apologize for the tears. Folks these days are starving for the genuine and it was kind of you to share this.

Hi Elsa,

First of all, Leonard Cohen rocks. Right on.
I’m glad you got your book of poems. I think it so important to pass knowledge around. Whenever I buy books on Amazon I usually buy one or two extra copies to pass out to others.

I have Venus Opposing Neptune, but I have never had the problem you explained. However, I do resonate with many of the Venus/Neptune traits you have written about. I do think Ven/Nep. contacts are creative in a shape shifting type of way. It’s quite beauitful and idealistic. I have been the receipent of many kind gifts over the years, and for that, I am grateful.

~S.S.

Venus trine Neptune and Neptune in 7th house.
I often get gifts that are big surprises to me.
My Ex-husband bought me a lovely jewellery box for my 50th birthday last year (7 years after we separated).
My kids and I had organised a Secret Santa this past Christmas so we each only had to buy one $5 gift. However, they all ignored that and bought me lovely presents without my knowledge.

I think maybe I have the wrong attitude about gifts sometimes. I have venus in Taurus too. Sometimes people give me things and it might distantly tie in with an interest of mine, but at the same time the object will make it clear that the person doesn’t know me very well. I also really hate cheapy junk gifts. I have no problem with gift certificates or cash, or stuff that is somewhat generic like socks, just don’t give me stuff I will want to throw away.

I also have a thing where in my family it is very rude to give someone their gift back. And lately I have been interacting with some people who continually give things back to me that I gave them. They don’t ask for the receipt so they can return it and get something else, they just give it back. To me that is offensive. Sometimes the person will wait a year and then give it back unused. I’m ready to let someone else handle the gifting to these people. Make it not my problem.

I guess I have some issues with gift giving.

Well Conny, the sad part in this was when the universe gave me the book of poetry. I can still remember opening that package and just being STUNNED to be holding that book in my hand. I cry again just remembering (like in the video) and I looked around the packaging but nothing. There was no information as to where it came from… it was as if it just constellated in my hands that very moment in time.

neptune in 2nd. busy 8th. yep this has happened to me countless times. use to really bug me. recently receiving has become more like giving: caring, thoughtful, gracious, open, appreciative. receivership is the real gift in the end. after that the ‘thing’ or whatever does not matter as much anymore. i heard someone say once: ‘you dont need anything unless you want to be great for others’.

btw how can one ‘unbuy’ a book?

Maybe the gifter began having financial problems? Just a possibility…but I’m sorry this has happened so many times to you.

I have the opposition, and I used to get frustrated with gifts, when I didn’t have friends who knew me that well-Neptune’s in the 5th. But now that I express myself more it’s easier. Neptune definitely dissolves other things though–like creative business opportunities (it’s in Cappy). Now that you’ve brought it up, that makes soooo much sense. Is there a way to stop the dissolving? Or deal with it beneficially? I was thinking of your tide advice–going with the tides. I guess that is normal for a creative person, so I guess I should keep on going…I think I just answered my own question lol…but thanks for this post.

Thanks, Larry and welcome.