Jul
19

Your Friend Gets Involved With A New Man And…

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The impact relationships have on us is enormous. Recently one of my friends got into a serious relationship and I’ve noticed I have less in common with her all the time. There has been no conflict but I am willing to concede at this point that our lives have taken us in different directions.

This is no reflection on the quality of the man. As far as I can tell he’s done her nothing but good, we just don’t seem to relate anymore. The same thing happened on this blog when the AMF and I broke up (he was an artist) and I took off with a soldier. A whaaaaaaaaat? There were a number of people who no longer felt they could relate to me.

I am writing about this today because I notice I take this very easily. It could be because I’ve just wound up Pluto transit to my 11th which wiped out most my friends anyway but more likely it just reflects my nature.

With Venus in aspect to Neptune, Uranus in the 7th and Jupiter ruling my 11th (friends), I truly have an open door policy in all my relationships. It’s like the people who come and go (and often come back) on this blog. Let ‘em!

I have been devastated over loss of friendship a few times but the circumstances in those cases were very jarring and I just think this is worth considering especially in light of the cock-blocking posts on this blog (tag).

I talked about women who will cock-block a man who is interrupting or threatening their relationship with their friend and I think I am the opposite. I always support my friend’s relationships and will happily step aside to allow them to ride off into the sunset with no impediment from me.

This is due my Henry training by the way. He made it very clear that a person should never stand in the way of another as they try to move ahead. The only life you have the right to run is your own.

Do you let your friends grow? What if it threatens your security?

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17 Responses to “Your Friend Gets Involved With A New Man And…”

1.
DenaMaria
DenaMaria

Absolutely supportive…..I have maintained friendships with people moving countries away and so I know that it works and I find it easy also. I really root for my friends happiness and well-being.

I have had some friends recently (last 2 years) move on and one completely dropped me and I didn’t understand why until just recently….it was such an odd reason to me, but oh well…..we had different political views and I guess she couldn’t take being around me because of it. That one really hurt because we had known each other for over 15 years, our daughters were best friends and when she broke up with me, her daughter broke up with my daughter….it was very strange,

But, anyway….isn’t that what friends are for?…lifting you to the best of you, even if it means having to let you go if their life direction takes on a new path….I think so…..

 
2.
moonpluto
moonpluto

Sorry they left you, DM. That’s a pet peeve of mine actually. I would never leave a friendship based on politics — I would just avoid the topic! Mars in cancer here likes to avoid certain topics!

I hope I’d let them grow. I want them safe and happy. Try to steer them right.

 
3.
Elsa
Elsa

DenaMaria - that is rough. :(
I am sorry.

 
4.
wyrdling
wyrdling

With an eleventh house saturn, i’ve grown to treasure those i call friend regardless of where the tides of fate sweep them. most of them come back into my life, eventually. and, if not, well, having a friend is a memory worth holding on to. i spent long enough alone….

but i like the way you think about it. it’s far more… respectful than the way i hear a lot of people talk about it.

but that makes me think of the neptune venus… used to loss. becomes easier to treasure the joys, i think, when you recognize their frailty…

 
5.
Jilly
Jilly

(((you guys)))

I never understood dropping a friendship because of different opinions, like politics though I can see growing apart and having little in common though.

 
6.
moonpluto
moonpluto

I agree with you Jilly — def people I’ve grown apart from. Sometimes you have to….tear yourself away lol
I have 3 planets in the 11th, I think my friendships regenerate but I try not to take the true ones for granted. I am picky picky picky who I spend time on/with. I think my best friend these days is the Elsa blog! I’m always here! ;)

 
7.
Ambidee
Ambidee

I’ve been wanting to write about this. I’ve been quite seriously ill for over two years now, and have not had enough energy to leave the house/ neighbourhood pretty much. (things are looking up though, so that’s good news!). But anyway, in this two year period two of my closest friends have failed to show up. Well, let’s count: I have seen them about 3 times a year, and in half of those cases it was me travelling to their place even though I really couldn’t. They don’t live that far and they have cars (I do not). A few years ago I used to seem them at least a couple of times a week!

I have been very disappointed by their lack of engagement. I have been so incredibly lonely- have been alone for much of these past 2 years. They say they love me, but have been too busy, and indeed it’s true they have kids, husband, new house, weddings etc. Anyway, it has become clear that visiting me is NOT on their priority list, and also our life experiences are so different at this point. I thought it wouldn’t matter, but apparently it does.

These friends I have known for 11 and 16 years respectively, and this development hurts me so much. I wish that, as Elsa says, I could just open the door and let them leave. I feel a lot of anger though, as in they have really just dumped me in the most difficult time of my life. Maybe it just needs time for me to let go of this. Advice anyone?

 
8.
Tipi
Tipi

I can totally relate here.
When pluto was on asc I “lost” both of my friends.
Since then I decided not to drag anyone into my life. I have been alone - lonely decades.

But everytime you meet someone you start to expect something from that other person and I have waiting it seems I’m always waiting. So it’s better be alone.

I try very hard to have the open door policy, but you kind of get upset when you have been alone for long time and suddenly you will have to step up and be a “friend” again and participate again like now you are worth it!

I know I’m not a good friend anymore but my past has made me this way.

I hope that you Ambidee can let go the anger and just depend on yourself!

 
9.
Ambidee
Ambidee

Yes, Tipi. I have no problems with the open door policy with friends who are not *that* close. But it seems my expectations were just too high. Other people have shown up, but it seems I keep wishing it were them. I am just disappointed.

 
10.
moonpluto
moonpluto

When you are sick or depressed or mourning — that’s when you find out what your “friends” limits are. We can’t make the ones we love show up. Disappointment happens and it sux to be let down, I’ve felt that totally.

It’s tricky though too. We often don’t know what’s happening in others’ lives. Many don’t share. Many don’t want to share. No answers here — just agreeing that it’s hard.

As well, some people just don’t like bad news, they are uncomfortable in the dark. I like friends who like me when I’m up and when I’m down.

But even in our worst moments, it’s good to examine what we expect from people, what we are asking.

 
11.
Ambidee
Ambidee

‘But even in our worst moments, it’s good to examine what we expect from people, what we are asking.’

yes, moonpluto, I agree. I have a chakratherapist who taught me that once you start ‘expecting’ things from people things go very very wrong energetically, both inside your body and externally in your relationships. Friendship and love just don’t operate that way. I agree fully, but man, am I having a hard time of really living it!!!!

I know now that some people indeed don’t want the dark stuff. Ooohh eyeopener.

 
12.
moonpluto
moonpluto

Yeah, Ambidee - it is hard! But we take everything we are to the path–

How’s your 11th house?

 
13.
DreamsAreality
DreamsAreality

I find Ambidee that it’s during those types of experiences in my own life I learned who I wanted to be to my friends. Don’t like it if they don’t show? Then I’m going to be there for them when they are down. It is majorly disappointing if you are a ‘feeler’ and sucks is right when your friends don’t hang thru the hard times! For what it’s worth - I found it helpful to ask myself “Self - now, having had the experience, what are you going to do in your own relationships to go forward with this new ‘heart felt’ knowledge?”

 
14.
DreamsAreality
DreamsAreality

Been there Ambidee. And, yes, it sucks MAJORLY if you are a ‘feeler’. In my own experience I have learned (as an older lady) that it best to take the experience forward into your present & next relationships, by asking “Self - now that I’ve had that happen to me, how am I going to be to my friends in that situation in the future?” For me? It means I show up. I’m the one bearing soup and your favorite fruit, and a screwy magz that fits your quirky side and offers to clean, pay bills or run errands for you. All you can do is live forward. Perhaps, if one of these same friends who disappeared on you gets down, you can show them how it’s done? I’d think it’s a lesson served quietly please, only by example without any sermonettes.

and…I hope you are feeling back to your old self soon! What are you doing today to make yourself feel better?

 
15.
DreamsAreality
DreamsAreality

Sorry for double posting, thought my first response had hit the trash!

 
16.
Vajra
Vajra

Unfortuately since I too recently have had Pluto through the 11th, grow means that the handful of friends I had in the past, we have now grown apart and no longer have much in common, or they have moved far away and we don’t communicate well that way it seems. As a result I have lots of people I like and who like me, mostly because I work in a cool place, but few close friends. I guess it depends on your definition of friend. I have lots of “friends” but currently almost no one I spend time with one-on-one, not counting my SO. But I do have lots of group things to do if I wanted to, people who I interact with, talk to, and who would & have helped me when I needed, and I would and have helped them too. I have a good community, but not a confidante/compadre. Since Pluto through the 11th though I do miss having someone (besides my SO though I love him) to confide in and talk to and do things with.

Anyway to answer the question I would never impede someone’s progress in life by trying to cling to the friendship if they were growing and that meant growing in a different direction. I too would definitely without bother step aside if they were into a new man. That itself would not threaten my security at all or even bother me that much, as I understand it. If something else they did “threatened my security” (not sure what you mean by that really though) I guess the open door might close for a bit for self-protection. But for the most part I too have an open door friendship policy, unless someone were to do something really awful to me or someone i love, in which case, “amputation” I guess.

 
17.
Ambidee
Ambidee

moonpluto- 11th house is empty. But have an aquarius moon in 7th house. (aquarius rules friends, right?) Friendship has always been very important to me.

 


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