Jun
25

Astrology Consulting With Women vs Men

Astrology in real life

venus marsI do a good number of astrology consultations and almost all of them are with women. Less than 5% of my clients are men and I’ll tell you right now, it may as well be 0% because it does not work out and I think I have figured out why.

I am very direct in my communications. I am the kind of astrologer who will tell you exactly, very precisely what the situation is and overwhelmingly, the women I consult with take my advice.

They take it because they can see or sense it will lead them where they want to go. They take it because I am older and they respect that.

In some cases I am not older but I have experience in a specialized area (like court or mediation) that they lack, or just the ability to suss out motives of people both theirs or others. In whatever case, the women do take my advice and many of them take it to the letter but the men are a whole different story.

I work with men the same way I work with women but it is not effective at all. It just plain doesn’t work and I think the reason is because men don’t want advice from a woman. I mean they just do not want to be told what they could or should do, no matter what and I don’t think this is conscious! I think it is just a fact.

That said, I know of one astrologer who does work successfully with men. She claims 40% of her clients are men and I am sure this is the case. She has a very yang chart and that could be the difference?

I have a very yin chart. I am undeniably “womanly” I just don’t think men want to see me as some kind of authority and so they don’t.

I don’t really want to have authority over men so it’s just as well. I will be happy to work with 100% women and watch the men from afar.

Your thoughts on this?

Astrology, Astrology in Real Life, ,   |   Posted at 12:15 pm 

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7 Responses to “Astrology Consulting With Women vs Men”

1.
neva
neva

That’s a pity. I’ve only had one short meeting with you but you know what you’re talking about and you deliver the news accurately and efficiently, so you’d think men would appreciate that. Heck, anybody should appreciate that.

I work with virtually all men, and my staff is all men, and they generally do what I say with no lip. Hm. I am going to ponder on this.

(I do butt heads with my Leo guy from time to time, like today. The Aries, the Pisces and the Sag generally are pretty cool with my direction. )

 
2.
neva
neva

One more thought: are these men of all ages or are they around your age? I have read — and experienced — that younger men are better with taking orders from women because of changes in the workplace and so forth over the past 30+ years.

Though the Leo mentioned above is only four years younger than me so I guess he’s just being his Leo self. XD

 
3.
Elsa
Elsa

neva - I thought of a recent exception but he was from a culture deeply respectful of astrologers.

This is definitely how it goes overall. I just don’t mix with men the way I do with women.

 
4.
Bretagne
Bretagne

I think most men are intimidated by a strong and COMPLETELY honest Womyn.

 
5.
randamandar
randamandar

Well now Elsa, I have sought your advice and taken it to heart, meditated on it, incorporated it into my life, invested in it and I think that you are one of the best astrologers on the planet! The fact that sometimes you freak me out is beside the point. Perhaps the world would be a better place if more men sought advice from you!

Now maybe I am an anomoly but I hope not. I have throughout my entire adult life sought the advice of older women. [I am not sure if you are older or younger, not really concerned] I have worked with psychics, tarot card readers, energy workers, crystal healers, reiki masters etcetra and 90% of them have been women and most of them have been great.

Now there are a few wise men on the planet and I am happy to seek them out and talk with them too, but perhaps the majority of wise counsellers are women. I will always see the value of consulting women like you Elsa P.

 
6.
Lexie
Lexie

Just wanted to let you know, while you’re on the topic, that I asked an email question a while back that you answered on this blog, about my running into people with a lot of aquarius in them? I took your advice, and learned to accept (but never love) their tendency to go away, and now I find I don’t meet many aquarians anymore.

Now I meet Virgos. >.< LOL.

 
7.
rox
rox

Elsa

You write this just as the Afanasy, interested in our chart discussions, has asked me to arrange a reading from you.

I agree with you about men refusing to take direction from a woman though. I find men raised in regular household with mom and pop and they respect their mother and the father respected their mother, they will take direction well especially if he saw his father taking direction positively from the mom. If mom was weak, abused or devalued by the father in some way - these men will disregard women - we have to be twice as good and twice as efficient to get any notice. If mom was a strong personality or abusive or especially meddling then any direction or suggestons from a woman is met with immediate resistance even if the information is good and helpful. So it is a case of how the man was socialized in his youth.

I have a boss that proports to be a strong believer and supporter of womens rights but the women question this because his behavior doesn’t match his words. When he is talking to a woman (any woman on staff) he is also reading email and taking phone calls or shuffling through his work and he does not face her or give her his attention - all while assuring her he is paying attention even if the discussion is vitally important to the department function. If a man walks by in the hall, even the janitor empting the wastebaskets or a retired teacher or a coworker not in our department - he will stop the entire exchange with the woman and give this man his full attention while speaking to him. He will stop the shuffling and email reading and turn and face him. Whatever this man has to say - no matter what drivel comes out - it is treated importantly and we are standing around waiting for this exchange to end to get back to business. It is very consistent behavior on his part and I am sure he is not at all aware of it. The woman agree - he has been socialized by a weak woman and was give the information as a child that women and what they say is not important. As a result of his distracted attention he doesn’t remember what you tell him and swears later you didn’t. It can be very maddening especially since most of the department are women.

 


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