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1 Minute Astrology: Gaslighting, Self Defense For Pisces And Other Neptune, Sensitive Types
1 minute video
(From Sept, 2008) “Make me think I’m crazy when I know I’m not…”
(ask the collective question below)
gaslighting - wikipedia
Other elsa blogs on gaslighting / manipulation in relationship
Also on the topic of venus neptune / pisces types in relationships
UPDATE - follow up to this video is here: Why Do People Undermine Someone’s Happy Relationship?
Are you susceptible to gaslighting techniques? Can you see the tendency (or lack of) in your chart?
14 Responses to “1 Minute Astrology: Gaslighting, Self Defense For Pisces And Other Neptune, Sensitive Types”
I remember that show as well. I think Maya said “slowly pecked to death by ducks”.
This is the underpinning of my entire chart. Venus in the 12th, square Moon in Pisces and quincunx Neptune. The Universe wants me to get this lesson through my head once and for all… An excellent book for this is Melody Beattie’s Codependent No More. I think you’ve designated it as a Libra book but I’ve read it several times and for me it really resonates with the entire Virgo/Pisces axis because codependents have such leaky boundaries and are so willing to do everything for others. YMMV, but for someone like me, it’s helped TREMENDOUSLY. Also, CODA the AA equivalent for codependents.
I love this advice, thanks for that Elsa. I needed to hear this advice.
Yes, yes, and yes! I’ve got Saturn trine Neptune (by way of a conjunction) and I had to learn this, too. I used to be very hard for me to accept that my emotions were “right” when others would tell me I should be feeling something different. Not that it doesn’t still happen, but thank cheeze for boundaries!
Wow that was great! We have been having problems with our computer for a couple of weeks and I have not been able to watch your videos. I think that I was begginning to have withdrawal symptoms! Anyway, I watched this video and loved it! You know it is not that hard to get rid of leg pecking ducks once you know that they are there and figure out what they are up to. Thanks very much Elsa. I hope that you and the soldier have another fantastic day together!
Just this week a few people I thought I had tossed have turned up again and started pecking. Time to kick some more duck ass I guess. The hard thing is that I just want them to leave me alone….I am not bothering them and quite frankly don’t care about them, but they seem hellbent on making me think I’m lousy at what I know I do really, really well. Aren’t there other people for them to peck? Or better yet…why can’t they stop pecking all together? Saturn/Neptune, Venus/Neptune
I’m definitely susceptible and struggle with it. I’m doing better these days. I’ve got a T-Square involving Saturn, Neptune and Venus.
Yes, this happens to me, and yes I’ve had to do it. Part of the reason why it is so painful, for me, is that it feels so hard…until it’s so easy. There’s no going back. I used to make the mistake of not grieving my losses, but I’m getting better. I hate hurting people. Even if they are a stupid duck pecking at me. Then again it’s why people take advantage so I’ve got to get with it.
This is very apt for me - 5th house jupiter square neptune. Also 12th house planets. Just have no boundaries and it is dodgy in partnerships because I lose myself. One guy last year implied I was ‘crazy’, the next suggest I have counselling for his porn addiction and then recently I realised I was losing energy again and stopped a new relationship. Usually friends save me but I need to learn boundaries and I hope pluto on my moon and saturn on my venus can help me do this. A friend commented just yesterday that ‘people need to just leave you alone’ but they wouldn’t do it if I didn’t let them. I seem to be doormat or full on aggression. I think this stuff is karmic - people will keep biting me until I own my own power.
Anyway, sorry to rant but I really feel this one.
Yes…this is the game that people always always play with me in the end. I’m not allowed to be upset, and when I am, I’m “crazy.” I’ve weeded out pretty much everyone because of this, the last one sometime yesterday. The method I’ve learned is to just be silent and walk away, which can be tough because you know they’re not trying to understand. But then again, if you escalate it, they’ll just not understand louder…and the great thing is is that these manipulators can be quite popular and tell everyone else you’re crazy. So best thing is to walk away and hide until they forget about you. I mean, in the end, I find that they’re the lost ones and they never really contributed as much as I idealized them to anyway…it’s funny how kicking certain ppl. out helps you find out what you’re capable of…okay I’m ranting now also, but err, this is also hitting home for me this year.
“…and the great thing is is that these manipulators can be quite popular and tell everyone else you’re crazy”
boy does that sound familiar, LOL.
oh, they’re often very popular… excellent at distorting reality to make themselves seem more appealing.
at first.
it does tend to wear off. then they have to go find a new set of victims.
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I loved this!
I feel you’re so “liquid” in this video, softer than usual, but most likely with a greater depth than I am imagining.