Wear black Elsa, like us Scorps, people can project all over it!

kashmiri - I bought those shirts, all the colors, very cheap, on the same day I decided to make these videos… on purpose. I thought it would not be easy for me to make the videos and I wanted one less thing to think about so I got what was essentially a “uniform”.

I figured people would get used to it and it would save me a lot of grief - “Oh God, not that necklace again…”

I just can’t deal with that kind of stuff or at least I don’t want to.

On the gal you work with, yeah. I feel sorry for her. I have some stories about that kind of thing, unfortunately I will probably never get them told because I am constantly behind so I am glad you posted that here. I say it over and over… ‘We need somebody to burn…” and it’s just hideous.

Saturn in 10th conjunct MC conjunct Chiron, in Pisces! Interesting discussion, I never really thought about it that much…

But, yeah. I’ve been scapegoated a couple of times. Once back in the 80’s. Eventually things came to a head and I flat out quit the job–walked out, actually, flinging a verbal resignation to their faces. Jupiter was conjuncting & Uranus was squaring at the time. Hadn’t realized it was scapegoating, tho’, until thinking about it just now. But that is *exactly* what it was, and long after the fact someone involved actually told me that very thing only without using that particular word…

And then again more recently–a couple of years ago I took on a new position in the office I’ve worked at (with good repute and no prior problems) since 1989…and promptly became a scapegoat for one particular co-worker. This time, I definitely recognized it, almost from the get-go. And for awhile, I thought I could change it if I just worked hard enough (Pisces mist, anyone? heh). But this time, I’ve got PLUTO squaring that natal conjunction. So again, I ended up quitting the job. Only I did it with a little more thought (I really didn’t want to throw away 18 years of service, I’d rather hang on and retire!). Instead of resigning, I waited quite some time for a different position to open–and then promptly transferred. I notice things are quite a mess since I left, as I did a damn good job under near impossible conditions, despite having to constantly step around my tormentor! But ya know? Just today I overheard that same bitch, still trying to scapegoat me for something that occurred last spring, and I didn’t catch enough details to double check what story she was spinning but I’ve no doubt if I DID check on it I would find that it was something SHE did, not me! Except now it is, DUH, HELLO? WHO CARES? I’M GONE, GONE, GONE? It can’t hurt me anymore, >smirk<

So I dunno about it being my JOB to serve people by being a scapegoat, even tho’ I have MC in Pisces and Saturn right there in the mix. Serve people, I do. I often sacrifice for the good of the job (Pisces MC). And I take my job seriously (Saturn!). But to be the wounded in the process? Nah, not my usual role. Maybe Chiron helps me heal that skewed potential? ‘Cause I will NOT be anyone’s scapegoat!

Dear Elsa,

Could it be the Saturn in Virgo that made me to realize that I am a sinner? My father didn’t deserve to be rejected but it is too late to hug him and let him know my feelings.
I decided to write about my experience for I believe there are many people who are too proud to forgive their parent’s mistakes. But, were they really mistaken? Do we speak with our parents from the bottom of our hearts? And if we do, do we understand their hearts?

The hunt after career and to provide good living to my children became such priority of my life that I forgot my father, my brothers and my childhood. This year has brought to me, I must say, weird experiences which brought back memories from my childhood. That led me to do research on my family background. I found out that my father was Jewish. He never told me, he never told anybody. Why? I will never know. There was WWII….. I never met his family, he never spoke about his family and I never asked. It is too late now. He died last summer and my mother died when I was 10. Until a few weeks ago I didn’t realize what a selfish ignorant I am.

Yours,

Zavela

I have been scapegoat at work quite a bit. If someone decides they don’t want to do the job anymore (prepping dogs for grooming, kennel work - physically demanding, dirty jobs) instead of admitting they would rather go answer phones in a quiet clean office, they often project onto the mean groomer who makes them do the job right.

10th house Virgo Mars opposed 4th house Pisces Saturn.

I’m feeling more shored up lately which I think is a function of time. I’ve been on the job, have proven myself over the last two years so my boss is more likely to see the pattern than to assume I’ve been mean to some poor bather. We have the best staff we’ve ever had and there is far less drama. I love our hardworking Capricorn bather/head bitch. Libra boss can vacillate all she wants now but the work still gets done.

Mine too moonpluto.

many people often dislike me when they first meet me…… so many of my friends tell me they hated me, because they were intimidated by me. and I am nice!
I am confident and put together, I have many obvious skills AND I like men… and it makes a lot of people uncomfortable…. A LOT.

Kind of sad how insecure people can be, how they are only to happy to imagine you have no morals or look down on others….

oh well. I have very good friends too and usually they have plenty of self confidence themselves.

I’m definitely dumped on. Have been my whole life. It’s nearly always women doing the dumping, and the root of it is jealousy.

I am who I am and don’t conform to anyone’s idea of what I should be. I really and honestly believe that people don’t like that. They want to drag you down to their level of misery. Once I let them know that I wasn’t having any of it, that’s when the shit got dumped.

I totally relate to that woman in Kashmiri’s story. I don’t know know how many times I heard “rich bitch” over the last who knows how many years.

I’m really tired of ignorant, mean spirited people trying to put out my light, but never succeeding.

So what’s the astrology?

Mars conjunct Sun in Leo, Mars is my chart ruler, and this ties in with what Elsa says about repressed Marses. Those who have ‘em don’t like this.

Neptoooooooon inconjunct Aries rising. Tight by degrees. People catch the Neptune and think I’m some sweet, easily manipulated thing. Then they see the real me can’t can’t stand it.

Venus conjunct Pluto in Virgo–the number one reason why I have so much trouble with women. I’m very in touch with my dark side, and since many people are not, they either run from me or attack me for being this way.

Jupiter exactly opposite Aries rising. I can come off of as a preachy, pompous asshole, going on and on about how their behavior sucks. Well, no one who is living in their own deluded fantasy is going to want to hear this.