Apr
18

“Consciousness Is A Struggle” Liz Greene

Astrology in real life

subconsciousFrom the comments on Astrology and Short-Sightedness Redux, I wrote in response to AnaBanana:

“I see people doing things they don’t realize they are doing all the time.”

kashmiri wrote:

“…Do you see this as 8th house/scorpio/pluto energy? I’ve heard my sister speak of this.”

Yes. People are not conscious of their unconscious and this includes me. Liz Greene said it best, consciousness is a struggle” and I would add that people in general have no interest in struggling.

It is struggle to figure out what you are doing and much easier to focus on what the other person is doing / what their problem is, in other words, project.

The more a person projects the more they act unconsciously and having pretty good awareness of the havoc a person can wreak due their unconscious drives, I have gone out of my way to train myself not to concern myself with what other people are doing as it is really none of my business and surely not my problem.

Exception is made when someone hires me to read a chart. For example I am working with a gal right now with a Scorpio Mars and an 8th house Moon. She wants to know what she’d doing so I am telling her and for some of us this is so liberating.

It is very rare someone says something POTENT. Like the therapist who told me (Venus square Neptune) 15 years ago that my IQ dropped 50 points when I met a man. Stuff like that is PRICELESS.

Until she said that do you think I knew?

Hell no.


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7 Responses to ““Consciousness Is A Struggle” Liz Greene”

1.
Sanguine
Sanguine

I wholeheartedly agree with your statement that people in general have no interest in struggling. I read this Nietzsche quote with this view in mind: “To predict the behavior of ordinary people in advance, you only have to assume that they will always try to escape a disagreeable situation with the smallest possible expenditure of intelligence.”

Looking up Nietzsche’s birth info on the web, I find that he’s a Libra sun in the 11th with opposition to Pluto in the 5th, Scorpio rising.

 
2.
flyingdog
flyingdog

8th house moon says what about acting subconsciously? I always thought it was more about truth-seeking behavior in unusual places and bringing unconscious fears to the surface? am I wrong on that?

 
3.
Elsa
Elsa

flyingdog - anything that has to do with “truth” is Jupiter / 9th house / Sagittarius..

 
4.
aml
aml

ohhhh, this is a big big struggle. shouldn’t we all be building a sub-marine- or something…i think most of us operate on auto-pilot/ maybe when saturn is put to good work in a chart, it is easier to real deal and be aware of yourself and your motives>>actions in the moment– instead of a post-mort. review

 
5.
kashmiri
kashmiri

I totally missed this.
I feel like those who focus too much on what other people are doing are lazy, because it IS hard to look at yourself. I can my own astrology (questioning why) after reading this. I have 8th House Saturn. I’m inclined to work on my self-awareness (it squares my Sun).
I can easily see how other people would find this an unfair view. I’m on the fence…I guess my Saturn likes tough love.
My sister has 8th House Sun and Moon and finds unconscious behaviour maddening (and boring, I think that’s her Gemini talking).

 
6.
kashmiri
kashmiri

Cripes did any of that paragraph even make sense?

 
7.
AnaBanana
AnaBanana

“people in general have no interest in struggling” Yeah, if they can avoid it.

Funny, my IQ drops 50 (at least) when I’m afraid of something. I’ve learned not to make any decisions under fear. saturn/neptune

 


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