I’ve spent most of the day contemplating patterns and rules of relating that are deeply rooted. The subject is too vast for me to contain and communicate but I’m going to try to get something (coherent) up here. I wound up thinking of this in terms of different cultures and I started with my own…
When Italy was hit with their earthquake, the US government donated $50,000. I could barely believe my eyes when I read the story - such an insult!
I mailed my inner circle to say the Italians would not forgive an insult like this for centuries, if ever. There are certain things you just don’t do…and being cheap when people and babies are lying there bleeding is one of them.
Madonna has since pledged $500,000. I was glad to read that and being Italian herself, I am sure she felt something similar to what I did. Anyway it seems there are certain rules among cultures.
For example if an American tells you they will pick up their kid at 8 PM, they generally show up right on time but if a Mexican tells you the same it means, “thereabouts”. My son’s best friend is Mexican and you just pick this stuff up after awhile as you should if you are trying to bridge gaps.
Now I have lived in a multi-racial neighborhood and have for 13 years. Matter of fact when I moved here, this was the most integrated city in the entire country. I moved here when I was pregnant specifically so that that my kids could grow up exposed to different cultures and have had literally no problems at all. If you have any problem with anyone, you really can’t live here very comfortably because you are going to see the thing you don’t like every, day on every corner. So it seems like it’s all blended… but.
Last week I would have and could have argued this was the case but today I can’t. I reacted to that $50,000 thing for starters. The person next to me (my neighbor) probably did not have the same reaction I did. My response was acute and visceral. I was an offense to my soul and a couple days later I suffered similar blow.
There are certain things all Italians know. One of them is that you mind your own business. Another is you keep people’s confidences or secrets. You don’t go blabbing, see?
You don’t poke and you don’t blab and if you break this rule, you are swiftly dealt the harshest penalty. Basically, you become an instantaneous pariah if you don’t wind up tossed into the sea, food for the fishes. This is just social rule and once a person breaks it, it is impossible to recover.
If you doubt this, just recall the Italian gal who stormed off my blog a couple years ago when I wrote about the mafia. She really had a fit and frankly, I didn’t blame her because I’d have acted the same way in her circumstance. Piss off or betray an Italian and they are going to get mad and stay that way for what may as well be a million years.
I think all cultures / religions have rules like this. The Mormons will shun you for various things as will the Amish.
I actually contacted HQ who is part Asian to ask him about the Korean geh, or kye today as part of my research. A kye is social group where money is pooled for the benefit of all. It is based on trust and if you break the trust of the group (take the money and run), you are going to have a very hard time living among Koreans as your reputation will be ruined.
I have spent the day thinking about what all this means, living in America the melting pot and I wonder how other people feel. It’s Moon stuff, see? You really don’t want to ever piss off the Mama if you can help it. This is just good sense.
Are you aware of your roots and the rules of your culture? How do you feel when other people (from other cultures) break them?

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PS I also live in a multi-racial neighborhood. I actually really love it. I love the American-ness of that type of situation. I would not fare well where everyone was the same. To me that’s part of being American. I want to believe we’re all welcome, and that we all belong here. That may be naive to some, but it’s an important American idea to me:
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
(Sun in Cancer)
I’m Mexican-Amer. and I am notoriously early to everything ![]()
My mama raised me that way.
It’s very frustrating because I have notoriously late friends and I think it’s so rude and inconsiderate.
Well, the problem with roots & culture for me is that I come from two completely different backgrounds. My parents split when I was very young. One household was very “free” w/everything, especially race. We are all true “mutts” on that side. The other household was extremely racist & closed-minded. I think this worked for me in the sense that my chart is overflowing with oppositions, so it wasn’t hard to go from one house to the other. But, I could never accept the racist attitudes from the one, especially because (some of) the people they hated were MY FAMILY.
So, even though I could survive in either household, I definitely identified more w/the “free”, “live & let live” side of the family. I’m more “close” to my heritage on that side in all ways. So, in that sense, when other people violate any “rules” we may have, the reaction can be anywhere from neutral to feeling sad/sorry for them that they don’t know.
Minor example - it is frowned upon to wear black & red together b/c they are considered the colours of a “whore spirit” & you are asking for/drawing negative energy to you if you do. Now, I know others don’t believe this, and that’s fine. But if I see you wearing black & red together, I will steer clear of you that day. I don’t take offense, but I’m not going to expose myself knowingly to ANY negativity.
I don’t expect others to know where I’m coming from or have any knowledge of our rules. But, I don’t take offense if those rules are broken, b/c it’s out of ignorance. They just don’t know. Like I said, our house was very “live & let live”, and there was very little that got everyone up in arms.
Maybe that corrupt fascist Berlusconi and his dodgy comrades should start to think about their fellow Italian citizens? His companies are making millions behind the scenes after all…
And what about the poor countries in Africa and Asia??? Burma, North Korea, Sri Lanka etc. There are lots of countries far worse off than the Italians, who at least have got a basic welfare system to take care of them.
With Quirky, I have adapted to his family meaning when Vid is at his house, I don’t sweat the time. I know they aren’t watching the clock which is kind of nice actually.
I’m still astonished that people can lie without any sense of shame. Every single time.
I don’t really feel any connection to any culture except American Culture (and to be more specific I guess, Southern Californian culture) My parents were both immigrants to the US but they are both of mixed cultures (Dad- Mexican w. a lil Irish, Mom - Guatemalan by birth but French/Honduran/Spanish/Salvadorean by blood)
They’ve lived in the US since they were teengagers, so by now they’ve been here for way longer than they were in their home countries…
The main thing my parents taught me is to work hard and be polite. Vulgarity has always been a huge NO-NO. So, as long as people are polite and not vulgar, I don’t really notice anything else they may do…I recognize that people do things because of the culture they were raised in (but with the rudeness/vulgarity though, I don’t forgive that because in my eyes, it’s about class lol)
As a Native person, I live my culture every day. I’m very aware of the ‘rules,’ which we refer to as our teachings, and like most Native people I’m feeling it when someone violates one of our teachings, like when someone digs up our ancestors’ burials to study or sell the contents.
Elsa you asked us how we feel when other people violate the rules of our culture: when it’s a big violation like bothering our burials, well, I basically go to war - this whole other side of me gets activated and I just…go to war.
And I so get what you’re saying about the measley $50K to help out all those poor folks in Italy - what the US did really is an insult and I don’t blame anyone for being upset about it - I’m upset too, we should all be upset. It’s shameful.
Peppermint - to me it’s like tipping a waitress a dime.
I hope she picks it up and wings it right at your head… with a stream of cuss words to boot.
I hear you. People react when they know they’ve been insulted.
50,000???? OMG.
I’m a mix of about 10 different ethnicities but mostly under the umbrella of being mostly “hillbilly/applalachian.” Was raised that “being your own person” is very important, and to be very cautious about those in authority.
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The being on time thing is a big deal to me. I was raised to believe ‘being 10 minutes early is on time, being on time is late.’ (What it comes down to is my immigrant family has an excessively strong work ethic - they had to find a way to make it, and that was by showing up before the others.)
I have a few friends who are consistently so late, I don’t know why I bother telling them a time. I’ve even tried telling them an earlier time when I mean a later one. Doesn’t work. There was one notable time when I flipped out - I had been stranded at a weird event for 45 minutes and was pissed. I could go on about this for hours, and have done so in like minded groups.
I have been told that some people just don’t register time. It’s something foreign to them. In fact, these late friends of mine think I’m the weirdo. I have no way of comprehending that. I just don’t get it.
Also, all of my grandparents were immigrants, they married nationalities different from themselves, never used anything but English, and told us we are American, not the 7 different nationalities I am descended from.