Finding And Keeping “The One”, Commitment-Phobia And Such
Astrology in real life
As for drawing conclusions around the idea that many (most) of us have an “imprint” (Organic Attraction To A Physical Type) when it comes to finding a partner, they came about accidentally. I have been meaning to write about how I think people leave their relationships way too soon. They just plain opt out prematurely - the going gets tough and they go.
I see this again and again in consulting. I work with women who have ran through a lot of men and when you put all their charts up either in a single consultation or over time, you see that they are finding the same man over and over again, conscious or otherwise which is no surprise.
The very sobering thing about this is that in cases where the woman (or man) has repeated and repeated and repeated this cycle, the quality of the partner they attract drops. That is, they find to their shock and horror that the man they are will currently is of lessor quality then the one they were with 5 or 10 or even 20 or more years prior and this is a very hard pill to swallow.
What happens when a person gets to this point is fodder for another day but to mash this with the concept of the “imprint” is simple: You dump the guy/gal… the 5′10″, dark hair, dark eyes that you are looking for and your next move is what? To go out and find one just like him. Pretty stupid, eh?
I’m not saying people should not leave their bad relationships. What I am saying is if you leave them prematurely, going off half-cocked without learning anything you aren’t going to get very far. You’ll get into another relationship all right, but the same issues will constellate and very likely your new circumstances will be worse than the one you fled. Keep this up for 10 or 20 years… well you can just extrapolate out. But here’s the trick or the quirk in the universe:
Time (Saturn) works both ways. In one instance it punishes but in another instance it promotes. Because here is another thing I have learned (the hard way).
If you give things time and stay in your relationships when the going gets tough, the problems often resolve themselves. People just get better at being together and it is a natural process.
For example the soldier and I still FIGHT and we probably always will but we do it less often. Once every 3 weeks is now once every 3 months and stubborn as we are you know that neither one of us is doing all that much to have this effect, it’s just happening. What comes to mind is those dogs and owners who look alike. They may not start out that way but over time their differences resolve.
I am posting this for people who may know they are on a treadmill but have no idea how to get off. If you realize you are leaving one man just to find a man just like him and if you realize that your partners are degrading over time, you may just decide to stay in your relationship and work it out… if not go back and repair the one you should not have blown up in the first place and I think this is good news.
Many people never stay around long enough to find things can be worked through. I know because I was one of them. First sign of conflict, I was out of there and look where it got me. All the way back to the man I met when I was 17.
Would I have been better off had I worked it out with him - stuck it out back then? Well yeah. And this may not be true for all but it is true for many. You turn 40 and you realize your first husband wasn’t so bad after all. What would it have been like had you stuck it out?
I’ll put it this way: Once the blush is gone, I bet at least half the remarried people out there would be faring just as well if not better had they worked it out with their first spouse. Not a popular opinion but mine, nonetheless.
Who has experience with this?
follow up to this blog - People who morph into their dog

11 Responses to “Finding And Keeping “The One”, Commitment-Phobia And Such”
Well, what if the men split on you?
Of my exes, all of whom dumped me, I think only one of them really regrets it and will repeat. But on the other hand, the end came because he was refusing to shape up and decided he didn’t want to any more. I think he’ll be doing that his entire life no matter who he’s with, and I doubt his future partners will care too much that he’s a slacker if he sticks to dating other slackers.
I do have to say here that his dad got dumped for not getting his life together by his fiancee, and when I heard that story I thought, “Yeah, someday that’s going to happen to (ex) too if he doesn’t.” And he didn’t. Family repetition. For the record, dad had it somewhat more together than the son- they had a rat-trap sort of life, but at least he eventually learned to stay employed and kind of figure out money. I highly doubt my ex will ever manage it.
On the declining quality of men, though, that’s probably true. But that also comes with getting older and the good ones get married.
“Well, what if the men split on you?”
Well, if they do it prematurely they are on this track…\
“On the declining quality of men, though, that’s probably true. But that also comes with getting older and the good ones get married.”
Well if that is true for men, it is true for women as well, no?
I hear this a lot from older ladies…”If I knew all men were like (x,y, and z) then I woulda just stayed with my ex-husband.”
Well, my husband and I have been together for 9 years. We started dating when I was 18 so we’ve pretty much grown together. I know being with him from such a young age might be looked down upon, and I know there are some who think we’re doomed because of this. Growing together, we’ve both made mistakes here and there but we always work through it. Even if we are doomed, if worst comes to worst, I would never regret my time spent with him because I’ve learned so much and would be better for it no matter what circumstances may come. But yeah, couldn’t imagine what my life would be like if I broke it off all of the times I thought I wanted space in the begining, lol.
This brings me to a debate a friend and I were having. She says no one should EVER try to make a marriage work for the kids. I say it’s the best reason to try.
“This brings me to a debate a friend and I were having. She says no one should EVER try to make a marriage work for the kids. I say it’s the best reason to try.”
Well, shell it is currently in vogue to think your needs come before your children’s. It is a selfish culture…
I put a quote up some time ago from some gal circa 1900’s… I found her pic. She said something, like why bother to divorce your first husband when you can’t tell him apart from your second?
Anyone remember that? I can’t pull it up / find it and it’s driving me crazy.
well, going back a couple times taught me quite a bit about love, but neither one of those worked out well. provided a bit more closure…
i seem to be doing better by aiming in a different direction….. looking for a different kind of emotional state in a relationship…
I have this one co-worker who has helped a lot. I call her the preacher (she’s a sadge) and she is brimming with good advice about relationships. She’s also 14 yrs older than me and I get a honest-to-goodness reality check from her and her experiences.
First thing is to forget my relationship’s being the exception. I am just like everybody else, and this has cleared away a lot of self-delusion, I can tell you.
I think in the case of both husbands it was right to go. I needed that relationship at that time in my life. But being practical and conscious can go a long way in determining the viabilty of a realationship. That’s where my friend has helped me out, by pointing out where I’m shooting myself in the foot.
She is the one who told me, when I was criticizing some minor flaws of my BF when I first met him, that they were superficial and that in time they’d become unique and endearing. She was right. When I was being kind of demanding early on, she advised me to slow down and realize that having gotten out of a marriage with a difficult woman, the last thing I should do was be difficult myself, and that I was expecting too much too soon. She also pointed out that men (specifically Italian men) do not like to be alone and that it was unlikely he would be unattached for long. She made a list of his attributes, and then looked me in the eye and said “Do you think he’d have trouble finding another woman?”. She’s been single for a very long time and would like to meet someone, but she says there’s no one left.
He’s an absolutely great partner for me and I think that has come out over time; when I look back at some of the minor things that I thought were such deal breakers, I find that I was forced to talk about my wants and needs and our relationship (which I have always hated), and it’s made this the most equal partnership I’ve ever had. I can’t imagine fighting about some of the things now that we have before.
Advice: if you are majorly compatible, count your blessings. Do not believe that if you’ve found it once there is an endless supply out there for you to pluck out of a crowd.
Yes - first boyfriend who I met at 15 the best quality partner I have ever had. Now married with a child and me long term single! Second boyfriend also lovely but probably not good match. Ended just before my 25th birthday. Never felt about anyone the way I did about those two. Now 34 and I just don’t think it happens very often. I also think that I needed to learn that life is valuable alone though. Anyway Saturn is sitting on my venus so this stuff is pertinent!
Pixiedust that was great, thank you.
In the last year I’ve had some serious problems and realized just how much my partner loves me and has invested in my well-being. Sometimes I feel guilty about what an ingrate I could be but I have to overcome that (useless) guilt and instead focus on being the best partner I can be. I feel better about myself when I’m making a committed effort (Capricorn Moon trine Sun)
“Well, shell it is currently in vogue to think your needs come before your children’s. It is a selfish culture…”
While I agree we are living in a selfish culture, I have to disagree based on my own experience.
I stayed in an unhappy marriage for 18 years mainly because of my kids. I was afraid I could not support them on my own, and my now ex had no problem just poofing on his oldest daughter when he left her mother.
Since my own dad did the same thing to me, I didn’t want to subject my children to the same abandonment issues that have dogged me my whole life.
When I reached the breaking point last summer, my son opted to stay with his father. Why? Because he knew he would be able to do whatever the hell he wants to do and no one would be keeping track of whether his school work was done, if he was even going to school at all, or anything else. (He skipped school 18 days in November…once I found out about it and told his dad that was not gonna work, it stopped.) He knew if he came with me, he would have to step up. He’d rather be like his dad because at 16 years old, it’s easier not to have a parent that keeps up with what you are doing. I remember that much of being 16 clearly!
My daughter is a completely different person now. She came with me. She is lighter, less whiny and burdened.
This will forever be the biggest regret of my life: I stayed too long. The result is that my son is damaged and becoming the person his father is. Irresponsible, and it’s *always* someone else’s fault when he screws up.
While my daughter is healthier and happier than before, she too will carry the scars of the miserable life we lived the first ten years of her life. Until we left, she had never known her mother emotionally healthy.
Staying caused my children a lot of pain. Leaving seems to have made both of them happier, altho I can’t say my leaving so late did my son any favors.
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I’ve definitely wanted to split on my partner before. You know, screwwwwww yoooooooou. Part of what’s kept me committed was something akin to what you are saying. Pluto in Capricorn=saturn lessons. I remember when I was 20 my Dad told us he felt like leaving for the first 10 years of my parents’ marriage. He always says ‘nothing lasts forever’ which is something that def. helps me in bad times.