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Pluto Transit The 12th House - Mine: Crisis Of Faith

Astrology in real life

To my mind the worst crisis to have is a crisis of faith. I made a series of videos some time ago about how I felt all things were resolved in the 12th house. I do believe this which means it lose your faith, problems become unresolvable.

Pluto is stationary at the moment and very potent. Personally it’s transiting my 12th house and potentially this could signify the death of my faith. I might see my faith destroyed and I have come right up against this over these last months and it just knocks you for a loop.

During Pluto’s transit of my 11th house, every hope, wish I was was decimated. However each time I got creamed I came up with a new hope or wish. The new hope or wish would also be slammed into the rocks, or squished like a bug and then I would come up with another new hope or wish.

I see this pattern now. I am a renewable resource is all. It’s my nature. So while my faith may be dealt a death blow, I’ve no choice but to come up with some more faith and the new faith is deeper (Pluto) then the faith that was killed however don’t for one minute think this is automatic. It is painful, grueling process and so another aspect of this transit is revealed to me.

I have faith. I have always had bucketfuls of faith but what I am finding with Pluto in my 12th is just how deep it goes.


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23 Responses to “Pluto Transit The 12th House - Mine: Crisis Of Faith”

1.
doublecappy
doublecappy

Didn’t mother Teresa go through what they call the “dark night”? They said she went through it for years. If I have time, I want to read the book someone wrote about it. It’s fascinating to me.

I’ve been through a two-year period where one thing after another was destroyed - fire, death, breakup. And a friend commented, “I can’t understand it. All this happens to you, and you just keep getting back out on the field. You’re like a football player with no teeth and a concussion.”

When he put it like that, I didn’t realize I had “that” (whatever “that” is. Faith?) in me… I really never thought there was any other way. Give up? Nah.

And years later - and it did take some years - things have really turned around. Faith is easier when you’ve got what you want and things are going well but, man, when you’re getting blasted. Yeesh. That’s hard.

 
2.
Dorothy
Dorothy

I have come to the conclusion that for me, faith has simply become, “just keep going”. Just get up tomorrow, do the Mom thing, go to work, come home, get dinner, start all over again tomorrow. I could not ever say that something may happen to me, in addition to all the other things I have dealt with, that would not be the final blow. But so far, I have just had to deal - one of the hardest things for me was when my daughter had a serious side-affect to a medication. Her doctor assured me he was certain it would eventually go away - she was having tremors, and it was horrible, oh so horrible. And it did - but took about 2 or 3 months to completely subside. I think that was the first time in my life I was truly suicidal, because I blamed myself for making the wrong choice for her. But somehow I just kept getting up, and going on, so for me I think “faith” is just making that choice.

 
3.
DenaMaria
DenaMaria

That is so true Elsa…I don’t know what transits were going through my chart years ago, but they were harrowing…we lost our second child to SIDS, my mother and father died within a year of each other……and then some….and at the time I questioned “why”, but just get putting one foot in front of the other and as time enfolded I realized the blessings that were given to me in return. People have often asked me how I could get through a child dying and the answer is ….you just do….or I knew I did…I had other children that needed me and a husband that needed me. I remember my doctor suggesting a group therapy for parents that have lost children….I went one time and there was a woman who had lost her child seven years before and she spoke of it as if it just happened, with the same pain and tears and I knew I could not go back….and maybe that was faith in myself…knowing what I needed to get me through….

I did read Mother Theresa’s journals that were turned into a book and they were truly inspirational. That was a good one DoubleCappy!

 
4.
wyrdling
wyrdling

i went through something like that when pluto transited my natal neptune.
i guess my generation did…

i will say that, at least, the faith that came out through it was, yes, significantly more powerful.

 
5.
wyrdling
wyrdling

and, yes, it’s a painful, grueling process.

 
6.
kashmiri
kashmiri

this post has me thinking about other people’s experience with 12th house pluto transits, and different ages of people.
pluto through the 12th house was unbearably hard for me. but MAN it was fruitful. I was 18 when it started.
I lost the faith I was raised to be a part of (christianity) but I gained knowledge of astrology which I obviously feel resonates intensely. and I’m happy I “grew up” (my 20s) through this transit. I had so much to learn. I HAD to learn it. Thank god I did and I don’t have my head up my ass as much as I used to. Sometimes it is embarrassing thinking about how out of it I used to be, but…::shrugs::
I think this will continue to feed me my entire life.

 
7.
Luci
Luci

Sounds like you’re describing me, too, Elsa. That kind of “get hit, get up, do it as many times as necessary” thing.

Very familiar to me.

 
8.
Bella
Bella

Rather frightenly pluto transited my 12th house in my childhood - ages 2-14. For me they were pretty dark days as was life while it transited my first house. I never looked at that before but I do feel that life for me has been utterly plutonic in character always.

It’s great that you see the depth of your faith Elsa. I can’t imagine life without it. I’m sending you some good wishes.

 
9.
lindsey
lindsey

A lot of loss was mentioned in this post and I wanted to extend my sympathy. Also, my admiration for your courage, determination and faith…even when faith means nothing more than putting one foot in front of the other. You are all inspiring. And thanks to Elsa for creating a safe place here….

 
10.
Carielle
Carielle

To me, faith that isn’t questioned, honed, and sharpened against the grind of life isn’t really faith at all, it’s more of an illusion of faith.

Sometimes you have to shatter the mirrors to see the true thing, but you’re right in that’s it’s painful. Those mirror shards will cut you, every time.

But what’s left after the mirrors are shattered to dust and the illusions are stripped away is deeper and stronger, and more substantial. It’s the bottom of the iceberg. :)

Man, I’m full of mixed up metaphors today.

 
11.
kashmiri
kashmiri

your metaphors are brilliant carielle, thank you.

 
12.
Toni
Toni

The 12th house cannot be harder than Pluto in your own sign (the first house)!

Pluto was in my sign for 13 years and dominated my youth!

But then again, I never lived through a 12th house transit and I’m just assuming the first house is hardest.

 
13.
Elsa
Elsa

I don’t think Pluto though the 12th is the hardest.

Venus def has a hard time with Pluto (2nd and 7th) and I think the Sun (5th) does as well.

 
14.
Tam
Tam

I just think it’s awesome that Elsa has this blog where people around the world can get support. It was a great help to me when Pluto was trying to kill me.

 
15.
kashmiri
kashmiri

tam i think your ‘ha ha bitch you got demoted’ comment stands out as one of the funniest things i’ve ever read on this blog…and i think it to myself sometimes when i feel particularly overwhelmed, so thanks:)

 
16.
maureen
maureen

I struggle with faith all the time. All the time. When I feel the void, I rail at it, and when I feel the connection, I inevitably question it. I wish I could bottle the faith formula for easy access when the going gets rough.

 
17.
aml
aml

pluto transited my scorp 10 H sun- and my scorp.grandfather adopted me- ‘changed fathers’- very difficult time. external happenings

when he tango danced to and fro my 12th H venus- i thought i would go crazy-internal- but had a def. awakening of self- i found peace of mind with prayer, astrology- self awareness, and a mental clearing of the decks- this is leading to a new philosophy- keep nothing in- just say what you gotta say when you gotta say it- politely. faith in living above the board at all times and demading it from others-nicely.

as far as faith goes, i really appreciate people sharing their personal experiences-thank-you.

 
18.
Tam
Tam

Glad to have been of help kashmiri! I make fun as a way of coping. The worst thing about Pluto is that it is sooo slooow. Gah. It just grinds away unmercifully.

 
19.
Jessica
Jessica

Link to Tam’s ‘bitch’ comment? LOL :)

Elsa, I really appreciate you sharing this stuff as it’s so slow-developing and your perspective just builds. Really great to read.

Oh nice, let’s see, lived through Pluto conjunct Sun (ruled by Venus), my whole 5th, and now my 7th. Guess if I can live through all this shit, my Venus will be comfy for life. At least my 2nd gets a break in this lifetime!

 
20.
kashmiri
kashmiri

tam…ah yes humour, must have one with pluto! lol…jessica, i think it’s on the board thread ‘what happened during the worst transit of your life” thread.

 
21.
Tam
Tam

Here Jessica

http://boards.elsaelsa.com/topic/saturns-gifts

Just scroll down until ya find the smartass!LOL

 
22.
Dina
Dina

Aww Elsa. What astrologically accounts for you having so much faith? Jupiter? Or something else?

 
23.
Elsa
Elsa

Jupiter and neptune both, I’d say.

 


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