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Curing Addiction Via Astrology: Might Be The Smartest Thing You Have Ever Read On This Blog…
Astrology in real life
While I love it, if I eat sugar I become desperately depressed. It puts in a state of despair. Over these last few days I have been talking about baking cookies for the soldier and some emailed me to ask how I was managing to make all these cookies but not eat them.
It was an excellent question because I love cookie dough, specifically and I had a quick answer that represented what I think is one of the smartest ideas I have ever had in my life.
When I was young I snorted cocaine and got immediately addicted of course. I had to get off the shit, just like I had to more recently get off the sugar and I came up with a mind trick to do it. If you are addict you may be able to do this yourself especially if you’ve got any exchange between Saturn and Neptune which can GROUND what is IMAGINARY.
Anyone who is addicted to anything leads themselves to the drug when they have the desire and then imagine that first whatever. The taste of the first beer, the first line you snort, how good a bowl of ice cream tastes or whatever. But provided you have a negative reaction on the other side of using, you can at your option, bring up the sensation of the crash afterward rather than the first rush.
In other words when I want to think about eating the cookie now, paying later, I instead fast forward to how I feel an hour later when the crash comes. Did the same thing with cocaine. Quit thinking about how the first line would be, brought up the feelings and sensations you experience post a binge and it worked brilliantly.
It was as if I had condensed the whole cycle of coming up and going down (Saturn Neptune time morph) into 60 seconds and it allowed me to quite easily skip the acting out. I mean, why go get some cocaine when I already have the feelings of the end game?
I probably saved myself tens of thousands of dollars (drugs I did not buy) doing this so that’s what I call a good idea. So this weekend I did not think about the taste of a cookie, I brought up the feelings of being so depressed I don’t even want to walk out the mailbox and get the mail and yeah. That does it.
I hope this makes sense. You don’t talk yourself out of doing the drug, you go ahead and do the drug in your imagination but you KEEP IMAGINING until you get to the part where it sucks. 
30 Responses to “Curing Addiction Via Astrology: Might Be The Smartest Thing You Have Ever Read On This Blog…”
Hi Elsa!
That is excellent advise!
I was just sitting here thinking about my own reaction to sugar when I thought I’d drop in to see what you were talking about here. Very trippy, but not really for me.
Yesterday after eating some Altoids. I got caught in a cycle of thinking sad thoughts (those scenarios you can’t imagine happening, but sometimes imagine them anyway). I knew it was the sugar, and I had this very same reaction to the same tin of Altoids the last couple of times I had them. Bye bye Altoids!
I can usually eat types of sweeteners that still have minerals in them like molasses, honey, even a little raw sugar. But the white stuff…that shit should be illegal!
Here’s to good moods and sweet thoughts!
Pisces
Great advice, Elsa! I am very prone to addictions myself and I’ve managed to wean myself off a few types of food over the years using EXACTLY what you described! I have a Saturn squaring my Neptune and while it’s been a pain in the ass for me most of my life, I had NO IDEA that this was why I have not become addicted to many things!
My current success was quitting caffeine: mainly coffee and diet coke. I’ve been 2 weeks clean (haha! I sound like an alcoholic!) and I have not had a craving yet - despite how tired and sleepy I can get throughout the day! The surprising thing is, my insomnia is close to gone! Insomnia has been a problem since I was 14!
My strategy: think of how bloated I get when I drink a diet coke… Think of how badly I crash after 3 to 4 cups of coffee (yes, I drank that much)…
Next thing to tackle: sugar… now THAT is difficult!
awesome- I’m so glad to read this! It explains it so clearly. This is precisely why I could never get into cocaine- i had one bad crash and that was that…and now i’m doing it with caffeine. i have a long way to go before sugar, but your post makes it much clearer and more possible-but cookies—oh, cookies- how do i quit thee? 
LOL. nice.
I’m still struggling, off and on, with nicotine, and I imagine that would be handy.
I kicked soda all on my own at twelve, i guess i can do this, too….
Timely topic. I quit smoking cold turkey one month ago and immediately became addicted to sugar instead. The past month has been horrible. Sugar highs and lows and crying jags for no reason and depression. I gained 10 pounds.
I know I have to quit sugar and indeed most carbs as I am highly sensitive…One thing at a time I guess. I wish the demon sweeties weren’t lurking in every corner screaming my name though.
I tried so many drugs when I was a teenager, and never got addicted to any of them. It was more like “I want to try this once” and that’s exactly what I did.
Sugar on the other hand…..oh sweet sugar.
I am usually a disciplined person, but I can’t control myself when it comes to that stuff. It’s the devil.
I will try your method, but I imagine it would be a miracle if I could quit. But I’m giving it a shot (well, not right at this moment, I’m eating a Ferrero Rocher chocolate, lol)
I stopped drinking about 6 or more years ago. I used to drink wine, and realized at times too much of it. My mother became an alcoholic in her later years, and addictions definitely run in my family. I never realized until I stopped how less bloated I looked, and how I was able to lose weight a (little) bit easier. I have never had a drink since - I think most people, when I tell them “I don’t drink”, assume I must have been an alcoholic, and went through AA. What I find still interesting that there are people who do not listen when I say I don’t drink, and just keep offering me drinks, which hell, if I was a recovering alcoholic, that would be a pretty fucked-up thing to do to someone! I have never done drugs (with exception of pot, I was a teen in the 70’s, went with the territory). I was terrified of drugs, I have always had a dreaded fear (and still do) of not being in control, which is another reason I never went to bars and got shitfaced drunk. No way - I have always needed to know what is going on, at all times. I had tons of friends who popped pills, acid, you name it - I never gave in, not even as a teen. I just refused - I really was too afraid of it.
for the sugarholics- if it helps knowing this, about a week clean and you won’t crave it anymore as long as you don’t do the “just a little won’t hurt” bit.
Good point. I should try this.
I imagine this would be a good approach for many addictions. I have known people that were alcoholics to such a degree that they became physically sick when they couldn’t get a drink. Drinking for the most part so the didn’t feel sick the buzz was secondary at that point.
I quit smoking twice by getting my head in a space of knowing I was just done with it. Your method ramps it up a bit and is really helpful. Thanks Elsa!
Fortunately for my sanity and my health (and doubly good because I was diagnosed with OCD!), I never developed a taste for drugs or booze. I don’t like them, made no bones about not liking them, and wouldn’t give in to peer pressure to do them to fit in.
I’m just like Dorothy in that I don’t like feeling out of control of my mind. I have to have a clear head and my feet on the ground. I can’t go with where the drug “takes me”, like others can. I freak out until I feel normal again.
Now, even though I don’t like this stuff, I’d get into moods and get blitzed every once in a while. I’d fly high and be loopy and giggly. But, but but but!!! When I crashed, I crashed hard. My head spun, I’d get vicious headaches, nasty nausea, and dry heaves. I’m pleased to say that I haven’t gone overboard in 10 years.
There’s always a price to pay with that junk, and I’m glad I stayed away from it.
Makes sense to me…
I needed to hear that tonight! Also want to add a similar take on reprogramming thoughts to end an addiction. A national women’s magazine had a story about someone who went to a ‘chocolate addiction cessation’ weekly workshop. The method was that you could bring all the chocolate you wanted to eat and were sat in front of a large mirror. You could taste and chew the chocolate but you had to let it fall from your mouth onto a paper plate while you watched yourself. There were some holdouts, but eventually most people learned a new thought impulse, that eating chocolate was an intensely disgusting experience.
There were some holdouts, but eventually most people learned a new thought impulse, that eating chocolate was an intensely disgusting experience.
Blasphemy!
I would be the only one in the history of the world failing that workshop. Ha Ha.
Alright, it is morning and I’m going to try this. I’ve been giving in to coffee and I don’t want to. So, let’s see how this Pisces imagination does.
Regarding the “chocolate cessation” when my hubby eats chocolate and there’s a little on his teeth I find it pretty funky looking. I think it turned me off from chocolate just a little–but not from my hubby, fortunately
Good luck to all today on overcoming vices!
Cheers (with some herbal tea),
Pisces
I have Saturn conjunct Neptune in Cap.
I don’t know if that grounds me, but I’ve done several drugs and while I enjoyed them ( especially cocaine ), I stopped right away.
I’ve never been addicted to anything and the reason is behind your advice. I’ve always thought like that and while that may work for some people others are always ready to face the consequences of their actions.
Ugh, I just hate feeling like crap the next day. It is SUCH A RIP OFF! I’ve got my own vices: salt, cheese, beer…hopefully all 3 at once.
I have all kinds of squares w/ Saturn: Leo sun, Leo Mars, Leo Jupiter, and Leo Midheaven. Holy crap! No wonder! All the fun stuff has a strict disciplinarian standing over it and cracking a whip - would love some feedback on what all that Saturn/Leo stuff means in a chart.
I set drink and drugs by the side of the road 30 years ago after imbibing intensely from age 16 to 22, when I got married. I didn’t want my kids to see me doing that. Never missed either one, except for really really stressful crises when I used to wish for the dreamworld I could enter with a fat juicy joint! Didn’t give in tho.
Nowadays it’s food - feeding loneliness and social deprivation with food, and last weekend I finally got on a scale for the first time in over two years and whoa - the shock! The sorrow!
So right now today it is “that’s-it-I’ve-HAD-it-time” - Elsa I’m going to use your powerful visualization along with getting some damn exercise for once in my life. I have gone up a whole dress size in clothes, nothing fits, I don’t like the way I feel (lethargic, breathless with the least exertion)and I remember how good I felt when I wasn’t packing around an extra 30 lbs.
So for me the end result of the 60-second fast forward when I’m staring at the leftover spaghetti in the fridge will be what I see in the mirror every day. Gonna grab a glass of water instead and get back to my fighting weight.
Thanks for this great post Elsa - you’re the best.
I think this is good advice, but as someone who is prone to addictions I’m not sure it’d work for me because for the most part, I use msot of my addicitons as escapes and there are so many options I’m always able to find something that doesn’t cause me to crash too hard and with Neptune itneh 12th house I’m pretty good at deluding myself (in favour of escapism) about what’s going to happen.
What I’ve found really helpful is harm reduction. Acknowledging I have a real hard time giving stuff up altogether, that I’m wrong about whatever relief I think its going to bring, and that I’m going to do it anyway for that initial moment of goodness and then taking small steps backwards each time I do it. Can I put it off ten minutes? Fifteen? Twenty? How can I distract myself from this drink/line/purchase/coffee
I’ve never sucessfully quit anything in my life (Except that one job - Ha!) but I have moderated some stuff down to nil. Outgrown it the way you say in your other video (which takes longer and costs more and isn’t near as good as this method, but self discipline is not my strong suit.)
Sagittarius Neptune in the 12th (So. Many. Different Escapes!)
Square my moon, loosely cnj venus and probably my Asc
and Mars Sq Pluto for a bit of self destruction impulse
Uranus sextile Mars for a wide impulsive streak . . Nownownownownownowwwwwwww!
I don’t have a Saturn Neptune exchange in my chart, even tho both are prominent. I have 5th house Aries Venus conjunct Saturn and squaring Cappy Moon, which makes me a giant prude in some respects, but also made me work at being a partier in my youth. So yeah, I did a lot of drugs, but never to the point of addiction. I’ve been curiously able to dabble in excess without having it take over my life, tho I have done some pretty stupid things at times… My Neptune opposes my Mars, which causes all sorts of headaches around motivation and focus, but not addictions of the usual variety — more like intrusive fantasies and distractions that derail my work ethic.
I tried this last night when I wanted a late-night candy run. (Stopped the craving, of course.) Fast forward to tonight. It hasn’t come back yet.
Hmm.
Neptune in Capricorn.
I have Neptune in Capricorn. I tend to get scared and keep addictions in check i.e. I usually drink only two drinks. The funny thing is the envisioning thing you describe, I foolishly do it when I imagine relationships on tv and in life, I imagine the stereotypical cycle of a relationship and say oh good, I’m single. I’m stopping doing that now.
Neptune in Sag and yeah, I do excess sometimes. This is quite brilliant! It’s like using Neptune to beat Neptune! I’ve got no Saturn-Neptune exchange… must be why grounding is difficult for me.
Does anyone have a recommendation for an optimal time to quit coffee?
My addiction to coffee - recent, but detrimental - makes me so tired and edgy, it’s as if my nervous system is stripped of all buffers. I love the taste and culture of coffee, but have to cut it, and want my quitting to last.
I was wondering if the upcoming full moon in Pisces could be an opportune moment? Isn’t it good to quit things at full moon? Or would it be better at the new moon in Virgo?
I’m a Sun Sadge (20°), with Saturn in 18° Aqua squaring both my Neptune (16° Scorpio) and Moon (20° Scorpio).
Thanks for any advice!
Ananda I would think setting an intention is similar to quitting an addiction, you make a intention to stick with a decision…Full Moon is when fruition comes…hence I vote for New Moon in Virgo.
Good luck! PS. Hot water with lemon and honey is also a delicious way to start the day.
kashmiri, thank you for your comment! You made me realize/remember I should use both moons!
I remembered another piece of advice I’ve read at astrologer Susan Miller’s website, regarding dieting: Quit certain foods at full moon; begin exercise program at new moon.
I’ve decided to quit coffee on this week’s full moon - in Pisces, which seems somehow fitting - and then reinforce with a new intention at the new moon - in Virgo, which should be perfect.
I’ve quit coffee a long time ago too. Argh, the headaches were a horror. I’ll try your hot water with lemon & honey tip, in addition to what helped me back then: Peppermint tea. More & more mint tea.
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Makes perfect sense to me. I gave up drugs about eight years ago and I did it by just closing a mental door. I told myself I would close that door forever because if I ever opened it again I wasn’t sure whether I could close it again. I think I was finally clear about the reality of the comedown - that it always came. Did the same with alcohol a few months ago. No therapy, no groups - just an awareness of what it does to me and it no longer appeals. I will be bearing this trick of yours in mind if I am ever tempted!