Jan
30

Her Fiance Says She Is Rude: Astrology-Based Advice

Astrology-based advice

chartDear Elsa,

My fiance has told me several times that I’m rude. She’s not the only one that has told me that. I’ve heard this many many times before throughout my life. That I interrupt, that I’m patronizing, that I’m selfish in conversation, and that in conversation I say things in a rude tone of voice. Why do I keep doing this? Actually, why don’t I notice when I do this?? I don’t want to be rude to
people, especially my soulmate. Is this something that I can change or is this something innate?

Double Sagittarius
Cuba


Dear Double,

Yes, as a double Sagittarius with Mercury in Sadge, you are naturally mouthy and tend to be a know-it-all. Your ideas are always bigger and better than the other person’s and as you can see this pisses people off.

With Mars in Aries, you probably don’t mind the fight but not everyone feels the way you do and I would say Saturn’s transit through Virgo in hard aspect to your planets in Sagittarius is trying to get your attention so from a fellow big mouth this is the BLUNT deal:

You can continue to be lofty and pontificate but if you do it’s going to cost you. For example, I doubt your girlfriend marries your pompous ass, see? Why would she? Why would she want to spend her life being interrupted and listening to you preach?

Much better to humble yourself here and if you can’t see your own behavior then apply some faith because when the whole world is telling you something, they are rarely wrong.

You fix this by Saturn methods. First you take responsibility and then you make it right.

“I can’t tell when I am doing this but I want to stop. The next time I am rude and interrupt you, please tell me and I stop.”

And then follow through! That means when she starts to talk you keep your mouth SHUT and once you can manage that, try to actually listen and internalize what she is saying because if you can’t learn to do this she will probably leave you as will the next and the next and next and the next.

Try this: Let her talk FOR AN HOUR without offering anything more than, “I see” or ‘I understand”.

When she is done talking thank her for sharing and you are going to have a very happy fiance, plus you’ll be a much nicer person and probably smarter as well. Win, win, win, win, that’s how.

Good luck.

Any other big mouths out there?
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17 Responses to “Her Fiance Says She Is Rude: Astrology-Based Advice”

1.
Elsa
Elsa

Beginners - you should be able to find the Sun, Moon and Mercury in Sagittarius in this chart!! :)

 
2.
Diana
Diana

Sometimes you need to hear it from someone who is as blunt as I am. Thank you for the advice.

Quick question, how come in the chart my moon is in the 5th house? I thought it was in the 6th.

 
3.
Elsa
Elsa

Diana, probably because I use equal houses and you use something else.

 
4.
crazy-moon
crazy-moon

Hi Elsa., a bigmouth here, being a sadge asc I can understand the double Sadge. On the other hand I cannot realize how she can keep his mouth shut. (mainly with merc over sadge!!!) That is an effort almost impossible for a sadge !!!! I can’t even with mercury-scorpio over 12 house. I cannot keep my mouth shut! There are some exceptions: some librian manners keep me in the edge. I suposse the lots of cap could help …with a huge effort (venus there, the love planet) Best luck for you double sadge

 
5.
Loonsounds
Loonsounds

gonna have to learn, cuz how would you like to be around someone who does not hear a word you say?

I’ll never forget this Aries…yes, the stories were fascinating, but one time I was brushing my teeth in the middle of the story, and I left the room for a couple of minutes to, you know, spit and rinse….wow, this person went ballistico on me.

I was like, “where did you want me to spit and rinse?” The person goes “There is a trash can right there; I do not like it when you walk out when I am in the middle of a story.”

 
6.
Elsa
Elsa

“I cannot realize how she can keep his mouth shut. (mainly with merc over sadge!!!)”

Well Saturn transiting Mercury ruled Virgo in square to her natal Mercury is telling her she best buck up and if you read what her fiance is saying about her, it does not sound like she is kidding to me.

This gal will be much happier if she gets the plot here. When you talk over everyone it is OBNOXIOUS. And like I said, if she wants to be OBNOXIOUS… if she can’t help but be OBNOXIOUS then that’s fine but it’s going to cost her…

 
7.
Diana
Diana

Ooooooh, so then is it in the 5th or the 6th house? I use astrodienst.com

Crazy-Moon, I think I can keep my mouth shut, I just sometimes get in over my head. Sometimes I feel like what I have to say is just way more important than what everyone else has to say. I also feel like I need to be in control of a conversation and that’s not good because then it’s not even a conversation. Overall, it’s like Elsa said, you need to take responsibility and do something about it.

I had written to Elsa before about my boss who is a Sag with a Mercury in Sadge who is literally the same way as me when it comes to communication. And you know what? I absolutely HATE the way she is so why do I want to continue behaving in such an obnoxious way? You don’t notice what you’re doing until you get a taste of your own medicine then you realize. WTH, I need to stop because I’m impossible to be around.

 
8.
Dorothy
Dorothy

No, I shun “big-mouths” like the plague. Can’t stand to be around them. If the person is genuinely nice, and has no idea how annoying they are, I try to tolerate it as long as I can. But I am just being truthful here, they make me cringe.

 
9.
kashmiri
kashmiri

Ha ha…yeah. I still remember when I met one of my dearest friends for the first time…it was at a party and I was with my girlfriend. This guy, her and I just started rollicking. If you can imagine 3 happy dogs meeting each other and playing in a park…well that was us. The people around us were a little astounded at the chemistry.

Year later I started studying astrology and was not surprised that we are all Sag ASC. If we drink it is worse. Bawdy bawdy bawdy…
Thing is, we understand and know when to shut our pie holes. And we like that we donèt have to with each other. We can just, you know, push each other in a snowbank or something. My boyfriend has Mars Mercury conjunct in Sagittarius and he is pretty quiet (due to his Scorpio and Capricorn) but he always wants to show me his teeth! I find that super gross.

 
10.
aurangeluv
aurangeluv

I feel ya Dorothy!

 
11.
PixieDust
PixieDust

Big mouth? Scorp Merc 3H.

Heh heh–no. I am too busy observing you. :)

 
12.
Jo
Jo

hi elsa, i’m just curious as to whether you use equal house system for all/most charts you draw, and also whether you sometimes use other house systems– is it based on the situation/circumstance or do you just feel more comfortable with the equal house system?

also, if you exclusively use the equal house system for most of your charts, does that mean that you don’t factor in interceptions? ( because i have different house rulerships with the equal house system as if i use the default astro.com chart system I have an interception in my first house — Aquarius-Leo are engulfed by my 1st and 7th houses )

 
13.
Elsa
Elsa

Jo - it’s come up before here:

http://www.elsaelsa.com/archives/2008/11/26/open-question-how-do-you-choose-which-house-system-to-use/

I use equal houses exclusively unless a client asks me to use otherwise but this only happens once in a blue moon… so right. No interceptions.

 
14.
Jo
Jo

Ah, roger that. Thanks for the link :)

 
15.
Jazzy
Jazzy

Diana, the keywords here are: “Sometimes I feel like what I have to say is just way more important than what everyone else has to say. I also feel like I need to be in control of a conversation and that’s not good because then it’s not even a conversation.”

Why do you think your words are more important than others? Figure that out and you’re halfway to a solution. Good luck to the altar.

Signed,

Ms. Sag Asc

 
16.
Crazy-moon
Crazy-moon

Hello everyone, I saw my comment jumped out to the hall of fame ha ha ha! I agree with you Elsa to take care of Saturn transits. Although each sign have to deal with a particular karma. With sadge particularly you feel you have to say your truth. You don´t understand why others people are so horrified, and obviously your thuth is the TRUTH (bold and uppercase - there is not other) I have seen an astro-research that shows sadges as the most prominents serial killers because may be the fanatic nature of the sign. The solution for me was to deflect the impulse to another time or ocassion. To keep it for me for 10 secons and another 10 seconds and so on, altough sooner or later that thing will go out of me. As a scorpio brother once told me, “do not tell you the story because you’re going to sweat it still with your mouth shut”

 
17.
von
von

I have always thought my Pisces Sun was 10th house but using the equal house system on astrodeinst I see it is 11th house. No wonder I feel more Aquarian than Piscean… with that AND Aquarius Mercury and Venus.

 


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