Jilly asks regarding the contrast between Elizabeth Fritzl and Elizabeth Smart:

“Is that the difference, ultimately, with a natal aspect & a transiting aspect?”

Jilly, I would say it is. Consider this woman who lost 7.3 million courtesy the Madoff ponzi scheme… she is now cleaning toilets and states if she sees a nickle on the street, she picks it up.

West Goshen widow’s riches-to-rags story

That is a life event and while reversal of fortune might be shown in her chart along with supreme adaptability because her attitude in regards to her circumstance is remarkable, she is never going to be someone who grew up picking up nickles off the street.

Er… it reminds me of my (step) sister in law. She may have wound up naked in a cave but she was from upper class society and you could also tell this… sort of like you can always tell that I am from the desert.

It’s sort of like Dora. She is always going to her way around a banana leaf and she is always going to think differently about food than Cluck who has never missed a meal in his life.

To ignore this or to deny it is one of the things that makes no sense to me but most everyone does it.