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Eradicating Violence And Aggression Around The World - Yeah Right…
Astrology in real life
Judging by the comments on the Astrology and Psychology of Stalking piece, it seems this is very common. Though I’ve not been stalked offline, I have definitely had more than my share of Mars energy run amok… like the guy who broke into my house and got in bed with me. There was another who inexplicably took off his pants in my living room (I was supposed to be showing him the house which was for sale though I was not an agent) and I had another guy… an old man I’d met at a company picnic show up at my house.
I was very young and thinking old men were innocuous, I let him in even though he had knocked on the back door only to have him solicit me to have an affair with him (he was married and made this clear) and then put me up against a wall and demand I kiss him if I wanted him to leave! He was 25 years older than me and quite surprised when I went to the boss the next day and informed him of this. He and the boss had worked together for 20 years and boy was he embarrassed. They were both embarrassed actually. Elsa P causing problems just by being… nothing new there.
Getting to the point, this is all Mars energy. You’ve got the NASA woman who went after the man wearing a diaper. And what kills me is people seem to think that there is some way we can all raise our consciousness and get rid of this energy. There is supposed to be some kind of way or method where if we all participated we’d rid the planet of aggression and I just can’t see how this could be possible. Where would the Mars energy go?
When you get right down to it, there is virtually NO ONE who can manage to get the hate, anger and aggression out of their OWN heart but it’s is supposedly possible to get it out of the other guy’s heart?
Is it me, or is this insane?
31 Responses to “Eradicating Violence And Aggression Around The World - Yeah Right…”
No, I think it it’s crazy to think you can get rid of it…you are always saying energy is neither postive or negative until directed, so perhaps we can encourage people to direct that energy is a more productive manner. Of course…there are just some people who are going to get crazy.
I personally think the world will always have people who will bully others just because they can. Ridding the planet of aggression - hah - fat chance.
What would be a nice change is if we helped each other more - you know, actually calling the cops when we hear our neighbor smacking his wife around. You know, banding together against the pricks of the world.
I just found out that my neice - who is now 25, and who I have adored since she the day she was born - just broke up with a guy who, my sister (her mother) suspects - this guy may have been physically abusive with her. I just hope she stays away from him, because if I ever find that out for sure, that he is hitting her, I can assure you my Mars Aggression will be all over his skinny white ass, and I am not kidding you, I mean it.
this is a bit of a tangent but I wanted to share what may have been the funniest thing I’ve ever read on the internet. I paraphrase slightly cos I can’t find where I wrote it down:
“you know what the definition of insanity is don’t you, Dumberly? it’s blowing years of eduction and specialized training to shit yourself on the way to an old-fashioned Texas hose-beating.” Rache (xanga blogger)
Yeah so true. I can’t stand the way anger is frowned upon. Like if you feel it at all, you’re “crazy” to so many people. But anger changes the world- I mean, what, we killed the GOP with kindness? Women gained (somewhat) equal rights through kindness?
Dorothy, I respect that. most people will say, “oh that’s just aweful!” but never do a damned thing about it. no one ever defended my honor. I hope I measure up when faced with such a situation. I’ve gone to bat for people and stood up for people but it’s never come down to violence. people back off when they see my crazy.
Dear Elsa. I think that violence can be erradicated (I said sun conj venus 11th house libra?) More than this: violence that damages and hurts must be eradicated. The way is education, I trust&think it can be done. Education in a comprehensive sense of the term including family. That doesn’t mean erradicate mars, or to erradicate violence, I prefer to track it into a constructive way, and if that couldn’t be done then to educate again trugh knowledge and love. I know it sounds like Hare Krishna but I am deeply convinced. I will try ever to reeducate because violence generates still mores violence, our duty is to eradicate for those who follow us.
No matter how ugly it can be violent action of a psychopath, always will be the product of their history and their environment. That is what must change
Well, it depends on context right? For me, there is a big distinction between violence, aggression, anger, hate, etc. that’s in response to something (i.e. defensive). You have to protect your boundaries, and when they are violated, you have a right to protect yourself. But when Mars goes on offense, it’s a totally different animal. It’s aggression that has no beginning or end, no purpose other than to violate. It’s a perverted Mars. This I think, should not be tolerated and has to be kept in check, if not minimized.
In my opinion, violence and aggression against others could only be eradicated by control over oneself, but that would require a good dose of Saturn, and that’s something most people don’t like, so chances are this will continue as it is. I had several experiences of this sort with men too when I was a kid and a youngster, but once my own Mars got strong enough they didn’t show up anymore - damn cowards that they are!
nothing wrong with a little mars every now and then. i agree with ana banana abou needing to protect boundaries because, believe me, there is always someone who wants to test boundaries and break through them no matter what.
mars in cancer is selective in its outbursts usually only when something very personal is touched upon; when security is threatened, then watch out, i’ll try to kill you (or at least make you believe that you will die at my hands- that usually works very well).
“In my opinion, violence and aggression against others could only be eradicated by control over oneself,” I also believe that Conny-
I guess it’s to also not focus too much on the external and concentrate on inner work - Not an easy task but well worth the effort -
As for aggression - it’s always going to be there - I don’t see it as a bad thing but sometimes as a release and maybe also there to protect ourselves - depending on how it’s used too - 
I agree with your sentiment Conny, but I have Mars trine Saturn, so there you go…
I see a fight erupting over who disarms first. 
No disrespect meant to those of you who believe this possible…
I see a fight erupting over who disarms first.
It would be a friendly fight though!
ha. I failed to mention my SN in Aries as well as Aries Mars opposed Pluto. I just sent an email with “I’d make a great assassin” at the end of it.
belief, one thing
action, another
“they call me saturn neptooooon” (to the tune of mellow yellow)
oh yeah, i’m friendly! i have sagittarius!
dang it, my Sag is carrying a bow and arrow. now how am i supposed to not shoot this thing!
You can’t have one without the other. You can’t have the dark without the light. Yin and yang.
Sometimes people diguise their “anger,agression” with passive agressive catty remarks. When you confront them it is like “who me??”
Another thing that I have heard as far as abusive relationships. “There are no victims, only volunteers.” That is an interesting saying.
@satori– hehe! I am so glad you draw the line there– so many people don’t, and it’s just so…messy.
Haha Elsa, you forgot to put a sign at the door “All guns and knives must be left a the counter before having a seat”
Anger can be a real friend, to have a passion in life, to use anger where no one gets hurt or in trouble - rather than to recycle agression.
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how about some mars passion and sex instead??
“how about some mars passion and sex instead??”
That’s fine but what if the other guy wants to fight? Guess you’ll have to fight back, or get beat up, allowing him to go on along in his rampage.
You only get to control one person’s mars and that’s yours!
wow, I thought I had some weird stalker stories. I should have guessed that Elsa could (more or less) top them :-).
This is the main thing I love about Elsa’s blog. If a person watches carefully, they will find some one-liners that are forever memorable in astrology. Above is one of them “you only get to control one person’s mars and that is yours.” I will commit that to memory as it is … non-negotiable in life.
I don’t know why this comes to mind, but about 10 years ago I went to a wedding in Ida Grove, Iowa, and in the motel bathroom hung a prominent sign:
“Dear Patron: Should you need to wipe off your guns, we ask that you please use the towels in the basket by the sink. Thank you.”
Two different occasions I had two different men try to commit suicide too manipulate me too say in a relationship with them.
The other I broke up with him for sticking a busboys head down a toilet at the local pepes. The busboy asked to replace our empty chip basket with more chips. When I told him he was too jealous and I did not want to see him anymore he cried I love you baby and forceably held me down in his apartment.
The other man shot at my door with a rifle because I would not sleep with him.
A week or two after breakup you get the call.
“Hi this is so and so’s mother I am at the hospital with my son.”
You know he is a good boy just to rambunnctious he really loves you
blah blah blah can’t you take him back ? NO
Or in the other case, what did you do too my son ?
I said “its what I wouldn’t do with your son he has never heard the word no.” etc…
i don’t believe for a new york minute it’s possible to wipe out agression/anger/hatred, with all due respect to those who think so.
in fact, it seems to me that forcing viewpoints on others - including forcing the idea that everyone must be “nice” all the time and that people can’t ever be agressive and hateful - is simply another form of agression. you can force people to comply with a specific notion of right, but you can’t force them to want it.
and i will totally admit to having my own shadow. i usually keep it in the closet because when i pull it out, it’s not always well-recieved. but i find it important to acknowledge it so i don’t end up ridding myself of the notion by projecting it onto someone else.
There are 2 issues here: 1. controlling the anger ‘out there’, which is NOT going to happen; and 2. controlling your own anger, that is: using self-control and good judgment. There is a big difference between a guy showing up wanting to fight/rape you and fighting (effectively) in self-defence, or having a set-back, and getting so angry about it and unable to control the anger finding yourself beating your wife/ someone else up! Elsa, you are a great example: as I have understood exercising helps you to channel/ transform your ‘anger energy’.
I do believe that raising consciousness will help eradicate anger, but that’s not because it will cease to exist. Anger will no longer be fuelled by anger, which will allow it to come and go, instead of growing ever stronger. As said before, this is all about inner work, not about controlling it in the outside world. And it’s not about being a ‘doormat’.
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I guess those who think this are of the “kill them with kindness” philosophy? WAIT! Killing???? Isn’t that Mars, TOO???? lol