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Valkyrie Box Office: Negative Impact Due Tom Cruise’s Reputation?
Astrology in real life
Saturn rules the reputation and the public image. Leo is an actor and last year as Saturn transited Leo, I said that I felt actors with poor reputations for whatever reason would see their careers suffer. Over the weekend the soldier and I discussed Tom Cruise…
“Just what did he do?” he asked. “He jumped on a couch or something?”
“Yeah he did that but what sent people around the bend is when we started pontificating about pregnancy and specifically postpartum depression. He said it didn’t exist. Well how would he know? Fact is when you have a baby those hormones do drop off and you’ve got to ride them down. Any woman who has ever had a baby knows this and I don’t think we were too pleased being lectured by Tom Cruise. Next I guess he’ll tell us what it’s like to go through menopause because he’s surely an expert on that too! He left a bad taste in a lot of people’s mouths after that… women this is, never mind his control freaking with the girl he married and I’ve just not wanted to see him in movie since. It’s as if his personal life has eclipsed his ability to entertain me…”
Any blooms off any Hollywood roses in your mind? Who and why?
24 Responses to “Valkyrie Box Office: Negative Impact Due Tom Cruise’s Reputation?”
Alec Baldwin and Susan Sarandon…I just don’t like to be yelled at and to be told I’m stupid. I did notice that Oprah had tried to help Tom undo some of the damage, but I don’t think it worked.
I saw a Larry King interview with Alicia Keys the other day…
She was interviewed about her efforts with regard to AIDS in Southern Africa… She seemed to know the facts but not have any frame of reference to place them in. Which would have been fine, if not for her aura of condescension and omniscience…
It overshadowed her philanthropic work. All I could think after I saw it was “That is one ignorant know-it-all…”
I saw Jamie Lee Curtis in an interview once telling people how to parent in a very “you must be stupid” way. I also get turned off when celebrities talk politics or going green.
What, shell? You mean you want to use more than one square of toilet paper or something?
::rolls eyes::
I never got the Tom Cruise thing either, way before he showed the whole world what an ass he is.
For me, I will no longer watch anything with Dennis Leary in it, since he recently made a statement about parents with autistic children, how we use it as an excuse for their bad behavior. I used to greatly enjoy his sardonic wit, and his show “Rescue Me” - but he can go fuck himself now. (I am a parent of a child in the autistic spectrum). Funny, he is a Leo.
Well now that people are being candid, if you go over and kiss Chavez’s ass (Penn, Spacey, others) for a photo op (Leos) when he wants to destroy our way of life, I’ve not got much use for you. I am especially repulsed by your stupidity - unable to see the obvious - that you are being used as a prop and in propaganda.
Also if you are constantly having your picture taken (overexposed in every sense of the word) I will probably blow off your movie simply because I am sick of seeing you and again like Cruise, you personal life is so prominent you can no longer disappear into a role.
These Disney girls that feel they have to have themselves photographed in states of undress also make me sick. Do they not have enough attention?
Can you imagine partnering with one of these attention hounds. God God.
Nice eye patch though hahaha.
…Dennis Leary got majorly misquoted - it’s clearer if you read his book/the whole thing.
I think Toby Keith is an idiot.
All of ‘em. I find actors to be bad people, generally speaking.
It’s not just the eye-patch… he has fingers missing, too. I wonder if there’s a peg leg…
I don’t think all actors are bad, just the ones that think because they are known, they know more than anyone else. Paul Newman was a talented actor and wonderful human, and he never condescended or publicly judged. He did his good works because that’s what was important to him. Denzel Washington is another prime example who is a talented actor, but doesn’t get lost in the ego.
See, I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately. Sort of a putting my money where my mouth is, which I am very big on.
I thought I’d like to see Valkyrie, because I like the story idea, but I’m because I don’t wanna do anything that will put money in Tom Cruise’s pocket - directly or indirectly, you know? I mean How Dare He tell people what is right or wrong for them? Ugh, ugh, ugh. As if people with PPD didn’t have enough to work out?!
Anyway, yeah. My desire not to support him is FAR greater than my desire to see any one movie could be.
Oh and I am SO with you on the Disney girls! For heaven’s sakes, it’s embarrassing to see 10 year old girls dressed like a character in Taxi Driver. :O I can hear the voice of my mother and my grandmother coming out of my mouth: “Where is her mother?!” Or my Dad: “When you’re 18 you can make your own decisions about these things, but until then, no.”
OK excuse me I gotta go call my parents and thank them. <3
Elsa….lmao…yeah, one square, while they wipe their asses with cashmere.
I can agree on the Tom Cruise opinion. Also, Angelina Jolie. The denial and then admittance to having an affair with Brad Pitt before he was separated from Jen. Plus, all the movies I fell in love with her she doesn’t make any more. She’s way into action and time/drama pieces. I loved her in Foxfire.
Actors who talk about us going green and then get in their big ass Hummer and drive away, wtf???
Also actors who whine about being in the public eye etc. HELLO isn’t that why you became an actor to be in front of people and get goobs of attention???!!!!
Actors who get soo full of themselve because they are a “celebrity”. Your job is to play dress up and make-believe,lol.
I am so over seeing Madonna reinvent herself for the 15th umpteeth time. The woman is insecure to the max. She is terrified of aging and can’t seem to be comfortable with herself, her shadow or her station in life. I really almost feel sorry for her. She could be helping so many people with her money but instead chooses to desperately keep trying to revive herself, her career, her looks, her love life, her fame. We’re all going to die one day and the only thing that really matters is the good you leave behind.
To be good, actors should be less concerned with playing the role of “me and my life” than playing their roles in the movies. But they have their own soap opera running all year around in the magazines… so no wonder that at the end of the year people don’t like them in the “real movie”. We don’t expect the guy from the TV show playing Mozart at the concert hall, right? No matter how good he plays.
For a public person it’s better not having a visible private life, so the mirror is clear and can project the role and focus the emotions of the public.
100% with what mimi mottet wrote on madonna- let me just add that she was my first independent (aside from my parents music)music purchase as a kid- first music tape i bought- and as a young adult a couple years back- i suddenly saw her as this pretentious ‘falseintellectual- just grotesque- how detached from reality she is- and as part of pluto in libra generation when she swooped in an ‘adopted’ that baby, and society let her- because she has money and star power- made me ill.
R.I.P 1980’s Madonna….I’ll always love you 
Tom Cruise portayed as a good guy
in movise like Risky Business,
Top Gun,
Born on the Fourth of July,
Rain Main
Jerry Mguire.
The Minority Report just too name a few
He was always playing a likeable good character.
Women loved him,
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Then we all got to see the real chauvinist.
Tom married to Katie and downplaying all of the medical problems associated with pregancy that women have. He was not Mr. nice guy.
We saw the real Tom and not the actor he portrayed.
If you really think about it Tom is a great actor. He had all of us believing his character for 20 years..
I want to see that movie because of the story. I thought Tom was good in War of the Worlds. I don’t care about his off screen personality, as I don’t have to listen to him talk.
I agree that I’ve had enough of Angeline Jolie though. I never really forgave her for all of her bizarre behavior, the grotesque surgery she’s had, and the assinine things she’s said in intereviews. But none of that seems to have hurt her popularity. She seems like she’s tons and tons of movies.
But I’m much more likely to avoid a movie because the actor’s acting is annoying me, more than their off-screen persona.
I just finished reading Andrew Morton’s new bio of Tom Cruise, and you can chalk a lot of his weird behavior and commentary up to one word: Scientology.
I actually can’t stand Tom Cruise (much prefer Ben Stiller’s imitation of him) but when I saw an interview w/Morton and he made it clear that you needed to understand Scientology to understand Tom Cruise — that hooked me in.
Cruise was a big celebrity “get” for the organization, strategically targeted by Scientology to help legitimize them and spread their beliefs through Cruise’s global popularity. The stuff we heard from Tom about post-partum depression and the rant against drugs to relieve depression, etc. comes right out of the Scientology playbook. They have an irrational hatred of psychoanalysis and psychiatry and it’s actually one of their stated missions to destroy it.
So viewed from that perspective, the Valkyrie movie is actually even creepier because it casts Cruise in the role (once again) of the controlling hero, whose “mission impossible” is to single-handedly stop a man and a political/ideological movement. Seeing Cruise acting out this part of a self-annointed assassin is particularly scary to me in light of his religious beliefs. I don’t think it would be much of a leap for him to take some similar action in “real life” if he felt his faith (and the salvation of Planet Earth) required it.
BTW, Valkyrie was filmed on location in Germany, one of several EU countries that identifies Scientology as a dangerous cult. For months, the German government refused Cruise and the film crew access to the country to make this movie.
REally when you think about the circus that surrounds famous actors is fueled by the people who buy into the whole celebrity worship trip. Fame and money are great distractors from the mundane and mediocre life most people live. The imagination is a wonderful thing and to lose yourself in someone else’s life is a great way of getting thru your own. Look at soap operas. They teach people to be shallow, scheming, vindictive, manipulative, sociopathic and hateful. You never see a genuinely nice person portrayed on a soap opera, (the closest is someone whose being victimized by everyone else.) Society could use a good documentary on understanding the Shadow. God, let’s hope there is going to be a raising of the collective consciousness!
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well, anyway, Tom Cruise never was my cup of tea. I’m not surprised by his popularity, but a little surprised that it’s lasted so long.