Astrology And Love: What’s Your Chart Got To Do With It? A Rant!
Astrology in real life
Last night I was writing HQ and the Mechanic about various things and I found myself stating that our lives had made it virtually impossible for both the soldier and I to be in normal relationships.
In both our cases we might manage this… the appearance of normalcy but only for a very short time before things get disrupted. It has always been this way for both of us, together or separate and as you might guess we both have Uranus mashed up with Venus.
So I slept on that and then woke up today and had a conversation with satori. It’s very clear to me there is no sense blaming anyone for what is shown in YOUR chart which I think many (I really mean, most) people do. They think if only I had this other different person, things would be different only to get in the next relationship and have the exact same things constellate.
For example with Venus in aspect to Neptune, I am going to pine when it comes to love. I don’t care what kind of crap you hear out there about how this is now true… how you are supposed to be able to cut out a picture of the love object of your dreams, paste it on cardboard and voila, he or she will appear… that is all a load of crap. Because look here:
I can get a drunk or a drug addict and pine for them to be sober. I can get a married man, pine for him to be single, a gay man and pine for him to be straight or man who live in Australia so I can pine that he could live in my town, Colorado and it’s all the same thing!
I can get a man in jail and pine for him to be free but oh yeah, I already have one of those!
The soldier is out driving around in a truck and it’s that’s not a prison, I don’t know what is. And what am I doing? Pining! So this is the bit to get:
No matter what. NO MATTER what, no matter who I choose to be with, I am going to have these feelings! They are shown in my chart for Godsakes! They will be there no matter who I align with or stand next to so this is a very good reason to figure out what is hard wired for you so you cannot only stop blaming others but stop blaming yourself for your “bad” choices when it is frequently something very different like your nature!
What if I’d have married that dentist/ doctor / rich guy they all wanted me to marry back when I was a kid? Think that marriage would not have been disrupted? ::coughs:: I’d have been smashing shit all over the place. I’d have burned the place down to get out.
And what about when the dark haired soldier passed by me and I got a whiff of that, hmm? Think I might have pined?
::rolls eyes::
I have nothing to say in conclusion other an I am a freedom-loving piner and what are you? Seriously now… what are you when it comes to love?
35 Responses to “Astrology And Love: What’s Your Chart Got To Do With It? A Rant!”
I have Venus in Virgo in my 5th house aspecting my 7th in a few ways. You can bet what I want a man with high standards! I have strict ones that really don’t change no matter who I date, if the guy doesn’t meet them I will eventually get sick of him. I used to ask myself if I should lower my standards…I did…bad idea, I got the worst person! I’ve since decided to keep them and would rather be single instead if I can’t find the “perfect” mate…Uranus in 7th helps that out! I’ll likely want to burn his house down if he’s anything less than great, too, Mars in Scorpio in 7th here!
This is some great food for thought…
Venus in Aries in my 6th… Sun-Saturn in my 7th. I am always so freakin’ busy doing my own stuff. I am constantly busy busy busy. I have to be DOING something all the time and I find it hard to live and let live and relax. My guy often says that I spend too much time working on the computer. And then I complain that I am bored in my relationship or that “my relationship is boring” or that “I am doing all the work and he doesn’t instigate anything”. Which is true. But heck, I guess I am a self-obsessed workaholic control freak. (LOL!)
L.C. - I hear you… I have a lot of fire and earth and can’t just sit around doing nothing…
that is an interesting sentence Rob, I didn’t ever think of Jupiter as ‘trust’ … blind faith yes, but trust? I guess it must be tho.
Most of my lovers who I’ve been very emotionally close to have suffered great loss in their life…a sibling or a parent.
I’m drawn to people who are deep but AT TIMES keep me at arm’s length…I’m okay with ‘going off and doin’ your think’ but I NEED physical contact regularly, daily, hourly.
I don’t need to be reminded constantly that you love me, but your actions must reflect that you do and that can be as simple as doing all the housework while I’m too depleted to do anything but lie in bed and cry.
I give people space to be themselves, their own unique entity in the world and I expect (demand) the same. I like a good dose of Air because I have avery fiery chart and am fed by Geminis, particularly.
I really need a lover who is willing to stand up and be counted in this life. I like to be a support system to those close to me, I like being someone that people can turn to and talk about horrible things that other people are too disturbed to.
I realize that people hide their pain and while choosing to do so is entirely up to them (I think privacy is VERY important) I attempt to cultivate a relationship-environment where no one has to feel any shame about simply being human.
And I feel really uncomfortable about overt displays of wealth, except if it’s nice fabric and food (Taurus). But the flashy shit is repellant to me.
[Venus/Pluto/Moon T square]
I should have qualified it… trust would be a Jupiter/Saturn issue, I think… faith with reason. Any other suggestions?
I only said it because Jupiter and Saturn interact heavily in my chart. I’ve always placed an extremely high value on trust.
I don’t have anything else that would suggest such an emphasis on it. Loyalty, yes (Taurus), but not trust.
No, that is very interesting Rob. That makes a lot of sense. The Jupiter/Uranus that I have trining into my eight house Saturn in Scorpio from the 5th in Cancer might explain a lot about how in the world it is humanly possible for me to remain as naively trusting as I am in so many areas, given what all I have seen over all these years.
Venus capricorn in 2nd.I do pine (venus sextile neptune, mercury at the midpoint: warning to all gemini mooners, stay away from that yod). I obsess and I never have enough (venus trine pluto,moon smsq pluto), “kiss and run” (venus trine uranus, moon semisquare uranus), I´m torn between my gemini, flirty 7th house and my cappy venus, antivertex whatever it means. I need to be in a rship (ruler of 7th, merc in 1st, ruler of 1st in 7th)and I stick to them, cappily so.
And I seem to be a magnet for plutonians!
I am a PAIN IN THE ASS. I am working on accepting my own pain-in-the-ass-edness so that I will appreciate when someone else accepts me as such.
With Elsa letting me know that I have an Aries Ascendant today instead of Pisces, I am not sure ‘who’s on first’ anymore. It may take me a few days to get my head around this!
Kashmiri, you just wrote what I would have said. Let’s get married! 
Mars-Venus-Pluto conjunct, trined Moon, sextiled Neptune (and hits everything in my chart in some way, actually). And an empty Cap 7th.
This was a great post….OOooh I will pine (Neptune-Venus) Im an obessesive piner (Neptune-Pluto-Venus) looking for deep dark brooding types (Pluto-Venus) that have their sh*t together (Saturn-Venus) except this is all in my imagination (Neptune Venus)…I dont have relationships but I do have great relationships with my fantasies(Neptune-Venus)
I dont even know.. I have a freaking stellium everything bloody hits everything…im complicated (Pluto-Saturn-Venus conjunction trine Neptune-Mars conjunction and then some)
I am confused. Ask me in a year’s time okay? I have a venus uranus conjunction in scorpio, but at the moment I just have no clue whether I want to settle or want my freedom. In reality, I have had stability and I got bored; and I have had he rollercoaster thing going for 6 years (4 years with the same man, but whirlwinds), and I’m tired of that too. There’s a new phase coming, but no idea what it will look like.
I have found that I have this with my son. There is most definitely something karmic going on between our charts. I can’t even manage to look at his transits right now without looking at his chart through my fingers covering my face. I pine for lots of things to be different/easier for him - most teenagers don’t have so much SHIT to work through when they haven’t figured out the least bit of who they are yet. I pine for normal teenage parenting problems.
“Obssessive piner”…well put.How about “a pine in the ass”? I do relate.:)(hope this is not too much to post)
I have Venus/Neptune and I have pined in the past for loooooong periods of time but Pluto conjunct my natal Neptune (in my 12th) seemed to change all of that.
I feel like the veil was lifted on just about everything with that transit and a lot of my self-propelled delusions when it came to love dissipated.
Now I just have *other* delusions to play with…
I have Venus square Saturn. When I’m at work, I’m pining for my love, and when I’m with mylove, I’m pining for work. Or, I’m pining for my man to stop working. Or, he’s pining for me to stop fiddling around. Or, and this is the truth of it, love is work work work. It’s not heart-shaped doilies for me and it has never been, no matter how much I long for it to be so. After a lifetime of thinking something must be wrong with my wiring to keep attracting this scenario, this post helps me understand, that my best moments will come (and have occured, it’s true) when I respect venus square saturn, instead of dissing it.
Here is an example of some serious pining history for you, and how it never stops.
Last night I got an e-mail from the X-wife of one of the subjects of decades of my pining linked to a soul mate situation which first popped to the surface around Thanksgiving 1986 (when we first laid eyes on each other) and has pounded back into my life in 1991 and in other interim segments of years, with astonishing and astounding effects on the lives of everyone within range
(actually it was obviously mutual pining, I’ll have to go back and look at his chart again now too, probably Venus/Neptune in there somewhere very strongly…he’s a Leo just like they all are..).
She, D., his now ex-wife (who was his actual wife at the time D and I first “connected” (Not My idea!) in the year 1999, long story), anyway, D was updating me about her health, her kids, her new husband, and etc, and finally concluded the e-mail with this bomb
–> “next time I write, I have a lot of news to tell you about what my x has been up to.” Shit!
Number one, ovbiously, I want to know…what, did something go wrong? He married yet another woman the day after Thanksgiving a few years back, [as only soul mates know, this gesture on his part was symbolic of the fact that the last time we ever saw each other (at least for now, or maybe this life, was on the day after thanksgiving 2000)] and here we are Thanksgiving season and there is some kind of news…
Secondly, it made me mad that she referred to him as ‘her x’ and not ‘our x’ given the fact that he was ‘my x’ way before he even ever met her! But now it also has me on the edge of my seat and it’s all I can do to keep from blasting her with an e-mail every two seconds saying “what what what what what, come on spill it!?” (which might mean she will tell me nothing, she can be erratic like that, so I am sitting on my hands…)
Yeah MAN Maureen, thanks for that understanding, cuz now I am checking my damn e-mail every five minutes, damn Leos is right! Especially with this damn Leo Moon I have which attracts them and vice versa! Damn!
And what sign is D, some of you may wonder, what sign is she, the one who “befriends (now)” her then- husbands … beloved significant other (the woman from way back when, the woman he never really got over) … and then continues to provide updates and communication years and years and years to come (yep, we even exchange christmas cards now …. but that was a rough first year where she hated me very much, very rough trust me, very rough…)
Well, you guessed it … or if you didn’t you shoulda…
She’s an Aquarius!
I think I am going to tell this whole story on my new Xenga, see cuz telling the entire story helps me to get out the pining even more and naturally, what better time for this Venus/Neptune 1/7 Aries/Libra chart holder to do than get out the pining starting right around Thanksgiving (considering all of the dates in question above).
Oh Piney Me!!!
Nah, just a blog for piners,
Piners attract: my pining object has Venus aqua square Neptune (same Nep as mine).My Nep and Pluto parallel his Venus.
For extra pining effects,eros opp psyche, psyche cj vertex,his ura/plu trine my venus and that gemini moon (T-squared) on my 7th, opp my mercury sag (T-squared)making a yod to my nep/ven sextile.
Although my pining days are nearly over (thanks to mercury R in Libra)I still wonder what´s going to happen on the 12th dec when all those planets in sag (merc,mars,sun) oppose that full moon in gemini. And the eclipse sun moon in aqua on the 26th january: last february´s eclipse, also in aqua,literally made us fall for each other (His sun,my moon cj in aqua)
OOOOO, dooo I pine….
I can pine now and then. My 12th house moon will pine away until the tide goes out and something shiny catches my attention.
I have a 7th house Jupiter to go with my 7th house Gemini sun so I want more when it comes to love. Good thing I have a man who encourages me to have my cake and eat it too.
Hmmm… that sounded a little dirty but I’m not going to think too hard about what it meant.
I have Venus conj Neptune. If I were a Christian born into the middle ages, I would be an anchoress in a heartbeat, absolutely. I don’t know if that would qualify as pining but I think it relates.
Given that I’m centuries away from the middle ages, and am extremely wary of spiritual practices executed in a modern context (esp those of a new age vein, and in myself), being an anchoress doesn’t work. I have no practical interest in asceticism, spiritual retreats, etc. Yet many of the texts written by the Christian mystics are very important to me regardless. You could say those guys and gals pined a lot, in a very fundamental way.
Maureen, two sisters back in Ireland but no brothers. I got mine on Craigslist. Got the border collie on craigslist too. I think I lucked out in both cases.
Well then, I have have Venus in Pisces in the 5th house square Moon, conjunct Mercury, trine Jupiter, conjunct Saturn, opposition Uranus, trine Neptune, opposition Pluto, conjunct Chiron, Libra rising… Have I left anything out?!!! Well the ruler of my 7th, Mars, is in my first house. My moon is similarly battered. I’ve never lived with a boyfriend, as I crave my space, however, I also feel quite sad about that and would like to be able to do it. Same thing I feel at weddings. My boyfriend makes my moon very happy and I joke to him that I have no problem with commitment, just constant proximity! Whilst he has some similar Venus aspects to me, ie Saturn and Uranus, he seems happier with the freedom aspect than I am (Sag rising), to the point where I’m sometimes pining for more and feeling like he’s more of a friend. I do feel like I can breathe in this relationship though, so clearly my Gemini moon and uranus aspects have won out over all the water, but it does leave my Venus a bit wistful sometimes.
I have always seen to factors in my chart that
come up..Well rather 3 actually
virgo sun squaring sag moon..
My role as a woman in relationships, It is very difficult to know this role and my partners chart
has different -reactions to that role
Aquarius ruled 7th house that put Uranus as rule of the house. (a little unpredictability when it comes to my partners)
Saturn in Aries in the 9th house. Sometimes problems with inlaws
Scorpio also in the 3rd house of this often puts the inlaw thing to emphasize a boyfriends sister. (It has to do with placements of other planets connected to each other)
Often for some reason the sisters are usually Capricorns and that makes everything really bad.
I just do not get along well with Cap women.
They hate me from the moment I meet them.
I can be civil..Its just funny how that is something I always seem to have issue with..
Its mixed with the sat 9th house placement.
I get along wonderfully with partners mothers.
Its overprotective sisters who seem to be the
fatalistic action I can not run from in my chart.
Well, I also have Venus/Neptune. Venus in pisces in 9th house and Neptune in Sagitarius in 7th.
Thanks god I also have Capricorn intercepted in 7th (south node), and Saturn in Libra.
What is my nature? Well, I love not to have a partner because I can sigh, sing, create music, pin, crave for love, be in love with love…ahh and desire a love that expands and shows me the world is so much more than this. I feel universal/spiritual love, so far is the best feeling of every feeling I have felt.
Whenever I am in a relationship, it is my opportunity to learn to set boundaires. I also have south node in 7th..
I just know I won´t be the one that will be married for ever. In this life I will pin (venus/neptune, neptune 7th), I will learn with relationships (Capricorn in 7th/saturn in libra) and I will be forced to stand out by my self (north node in 1st)
Thank you Elsa for giving me this opportunity to think over this “issues”.
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