Marianne asks on Bawdy Astrology Class:

“Elsa, I have a question. How did you learn astrology? It’s not like you can sign up for classes at your local community college or something. I tried a correspondence course about 10 years ago, but it became immediately apparent that it wasn’t for me - I need to be in a classroom environment with a teacher so I can see how it’s done. I’m just no good at teaching myself. I’m curious how you did it.”
Marianne - I don’t know. I started studying with my sister when I was 8 and she was 10, living out in the desert. I never hit town (and attended my first class or astrology meeting) until I was 27, just before my Saturn return. Consequently I had no idea how much astrology I knew. I had never interacted with any other astrologers besides my sister so very unconventional situation.
I started to identify myself as an astrology at my Saturn return when the astrologers I met wanted me to look at their charts which was a great shock to me at the time.
I am pretty sure I have read virtually every astrology book ever written (prior to 2000 or so because I rarely read astrology anymore). I have read some of the books over and over but I would have to say I am almost entirely homegrown or home schooled you could say. Not that I recommend this!
I don’t think I am much help because in my case, I think I was just born for this because I am telling you I can pick up the chart and know what it says almost instantly in most cases. Plus I can communicate it and apply it to a life and how I got this way is pretty much a mystery to me outside of all that reading.
I think I am akin to someone who can play an instrument simply because they love the instrument and are almost indistinguishable from it.
How did you learn astrology?

16 Responses to “Open Question: How Did You Learn Astrology?”
Astrology (the real stuff, not the general stuff from the newspaper) has always fascinated me. Raised in a fundamental church, I kept it under my hat, but just as Elsa was born an astrologer, I was born eclectic in my spiritual beliefs. I see Astrology like a massive filing cabinet that keeps not only God sure of where we’ve been, where we are, and where we’re going, but can do the same for us.
Meeting Elsa on that board was a powerful kick to me. I followed her to Xanga, and took a course she gave there. My brain is bombarded with too much to do and too much information to store, but I keep pecking away at it. The more I learn of it, the more convinced I am that I’m right - it’s a huge, metaphysical filing cabinet. The information is right there for anyone who is willing to pull open the drawer.
Thank you Elsa and everyone for your responses to my question. I’ve been interested in astrology since the 4th grade - I’ve read several books and have a basic understanding, but when it comes to casting and reading a chart, I’m lost. Chalk it up to numbers, I guess. Math and I have never been friends. That is the part during the correspondence course where I threw in the towel -the math. Also, it didn’t help that at the time, I had 3 young boys to look after and finding time to myself to study anything was virtually impossible. So maybe this is a second chance to study something that has held my interest for over 30 years.
Deirdre: I once belonged to a message board and asked our resident astrologer for a recommendation for astrology software and was discouraged from purchasing anything because I guess she didn’t think I knew enough to use it. Do you feel it is a learning tool, or do you have to already know how to cast and read a chart to use the software?
Thanks, everyone.
Marianne
Marianne - I am not a math person either - my sister did all the math! Matter of fact she did it wrong and missed my ascendant by 6 degrees. We never found out until software came about, at first just in metaphysical bookstores. When we found out I was Cap, not Aquarius rising, it caused a crisis - man we were just STUNNED.
I was eleven. It was right after my dad died, and I had a lot of time on my hands because my mom was MIA, mentally, and so was I. She had purchased an coffee-table astrology book because that was what was in vogue at the time. She didn’t pay much attention to it, but it captured my imagination. She’s a Capricorn, so it was a Capricorn book, with an ephemeris in the back for Capricorns only.
With a calculator, FOR WEEKS, I painstakingly deduced my own chart from that, taking into account planet transit lengths as it might apply to mine, and found where my own planets might lie and what that might mean… and then she gave me some money for my own Sun-sign astrology book with the ephemeris and all. I was right with my calculations, was inordinately proud, and I took it from there.
I probably know more about astrology than I am willing to give myself credit for. When is it time to graduate from novice to authority?
I really admire everyone’s tenacity, especially at such a young age. Back then, I didn’t have much confidence in my abilities - I needed to be shown how because how could I figure out something so complicated all my myself? LOL
Elsa, I’m curious (a perpetual state for me, I suppose), did you feel you related to Aquarius when you believed it was your ascendant? And when you realized it was really Capricorn, was it like an “aha!” moment? I ask because, if I were told (back then) I had Leo rising, and I read the description, there is no way I could have ever related to that. I may have WANTED to relate, but in all honesty I could not have.
Just wondering.
“When is it time to graduate from novice to authority?”
I’d say when you can hold a chart in your hand and have things to say about it that originate in you / that you did not read in a book.
Secondly, a comprehensive understanding of the energy of all the planets which I think takes personal experience. In other words, reading about a Neptune transit is not the same as living one.
Thanks Elsa, looking forward to your comments.
I big to differ a bit on the question “When’s it time to graduate from novice to authority?” I believe that there are mountains and mountains and mountains levels of intermediate in there, maybe like novice being 0 and ‘authority’ (if that every truly exists) like being 100. I feel like the last ten year of non stop obsessive examination and study at the most intense imaginable levels has brought me to mabye, about a 39.
I learned astrology first just by reading on sun signs, then by finding an ephemeris and googling it to death until I could read the whole thing (or even know what it was), then finding astro.com and keeping up with it, then by applying books’/astro’s meanings to charts I had, then by forgetting all of that and using my own examples to see how things actually worked or what they actually looked like in a person or situation. I did/do everything by myself, so it’s entirely possible to take a solo, no-teacher route.
It’s best to sample everything you can to get the ideas and basic knowledge across and then, after a couple of years, pick something you’re really fascinated with and study it to death. Oh yeah, and keep a journal or set of records of everything you find. Keeping a non-judgmental, non-astrological journal has helped me a TON and has been far more valuable than any book I’ve read.
Oh, and math? This is the internet age. If you can count to twelve and tell time, you’re set. Astro.com draws up charts, and for what it doesn’t do there are plenty of programs out there that fill in the gaps.
For me, it was having a great teacher in person and then reading some great books– and then reading charts for others.
Also having readings is a great way to learn (altho expensive).
Astrology is so individual, as well. Generalizations are helpful– but, for example,transiting Saturn conjuncting my Moon is not meaning “depression” as the books would say. My point: it’s not one size fits all. A great astrologer sees that, works with interpretation/instinct, and the individual–
It becomes a mystery to “solve” — very Scorpionic..
Loonsounds, you’re right. I guess I was thinking, “when is someone an astrologer?”. As I’ve mentioned before I’ve been to a workshop on relationships where questions from the class were answered by the instructor opening a book (and not even a GOOD book) and reading from it!
There is a place where it all gels and you have the subject in hand.
I would also say I am limited (some would way specialized) as an ‘astrologer” because I have no skill (or interest) in horary or electional astrology at all and I this is true.
It’s all true and reflected by my chart which is utterly focused on the 7th, 8th and 9th houses. So if you want sex, psych, philosophy and relating to others - I’m her, where this other stuff…. well I refer those clients, plain and simple.
I started being interested & learning astrology at 8 when I discovered my mum’s hidden Linda Goodman sun signs & love sign books but it wasnt til I was 16 when I learnt about charts. From there I just read books and read things online as well as seeing how a chart compared to who/how the person of chart was in reality. I think I learnt by mixing what I read along with my own interpretions and experience and intitution of what I felt something was.
I think though Marianne if your reading here at Elsa’s site you cant go wrong. I’ve learnt so much just from this site, not only from Elsa’s insightful and emotive posts but from open disscussions like these where there is an exchanging of stories and experiences.
I’ve just read tons and tons and tons of books. I took one online class (so far) but didn’t like it because she wouldn’t let me take the class I wanted, I had to jump through the beginner class hoop first. And I am definitely beyond rank beginner, so I was bored to tears and never bothered to take another one from her. The books are definitely more interesting to me. I have so many nitpicky astrology topic books around the house, and look for them everywhere.
That said, predictive/horary is incredibly difficult and I can’t say I ever figured out much on that from books. I suspect I would have to go to a “pro” to learn them. Skyscript.co.uk is great for horary, but it is so complicated.
Mostly on my own I am just doing psychology, karmic ties, synastry study any more. Playing pool with planets is fascinating stuff, and easier to grasp via books and comparing your friends and relatives with those traits.
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I holed up in my bedroom with an orange astrology book at my Saturn. Fed up with not knowing astrology, I wasn’t coming out until I knew what that circle and the things in it were. That was the kick-off.
Sure enough, I was blown away, in awe of infinite knowledge, and it has been that way now for the 20 years ever since. I have taken classes here and there, at the Theosophical Society in Boston, and other classes too. Every time I go to a party and meet anyone, when I come home, I enter all the new data in my program, even before I go to bed. This way I get to see the chart and the person. You can learn a lot that way. I also had a binder with my chart, my family’s and a few friends and I scoured those too. I made lots of copies of my chart and I penciled the transits in from my Ephemeris. Once I got my first computer in 1993, I didnt really need the binder anymore, because I had my astrology software with the databank of people in that.
It was an exciting time. Uranus, Saturn and Neptune had all just crossed over my ascendant and my Saturn.
Once I got my first computer in 1993, I didnt really need the binder anymore, because I had my astrology software with the databank of people in that.