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“Pluto in Sagittarius was not very good to Elsa P…”
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Today I re(read) the first chapter of my book as I contemplated sending it to the soldier’s son. I haven’t read it in a long time and it made me laugh out loud. That’s pretty good, huh?
Yeah, I was laughing at my own jokes as I am known to do and that was it. Really, that was all I could do because the scope of my writing (publishing) is so vast, it is more than I can comprehend.
When Pluto went into Sadge, like I said, I was pregnant. My daughter was born with Pluto in Scorpio (conjunct her ascendant) but when Pluto was in Sadge and I was all swelled up, my first (ex) husband stopped by and gave me a computer. “I thought you might like to write,” he said.
I had no idea why he’d think I’d like to write. I’d never written before although my sister who is psychic insisted some years earlier that not only would I write, but I would be published multiple times plus one (if not not both) of my kids would write as well. This was pretty funny at the time since I had no children but whatever…
I got that computer and stared at it for a few days and then started writing, it was 1994. The first thing I wrote was a bit about all the signs crossing the a trecherous forest. How would they do it? Libra is not going alone, see? Virgo would cross the thing and send back instructions to help others. Scorpio would cross and people would ask them about their experience and they’d say, “What forest?” This was it was fun. I vividly recall laughing and clicking away.
I started writing online in 2000 and have written virtually daily ever since. Now Pluto is leaving Sagittarius and I wonder if I am done writing.
If so there is a one hell of a body of work here and I’ve got nothing to be ashamed of. I have written tens of thousands of pages and I mean something like 50,000 not 20,000. And I can hand that first chapter to anyone anywhere and if they read it, they’re going to laugh and I know exactly what they’d say.
“You wrote this?!?”
::smiles::
And I’d say, “Yeah, I think so.”
Because that’s how far back it is. That’s how vast the body of work it. I just can’t stay attached to it because it’s so big and now I don’t know what to do.
I know I will know what to do but right now? Right now I’ve just read this stuff I wrote and laughed out loud and I know this much: I won’t be the last person to read it and laugh out loud and for this I am very proud.
Pluto in Sagittarius was not very good to Elsa P but Elsa P was very good to Pluto in Sagittarius and now I guess we’ll see.
Was Pluto in Sagittarius good you?
23 Responses to ““Pluto in Sagittarius was not very good to Elsa P…””
I got that computer and stared at it for a few days and then started writing, it was 1994.
Heh. My computer experience runs back to the late 70’s (when I was 10 and 11ish), and my online experience runs back to June of ‘83. (Making this 25 years, now.) ‘94ish I remember as the end of the ‘Old Days’ and the beginning (for me) of the widely available internet and Linux and stuff like that. I figure I must have read at least 10 billion words online (that seems at least in the neighborhood), and written many millions of words. Of course, my stuff is spread all over hell and creation. Long ago (80’s) I heard about the inevitable general concentration of information in databases, so I thought it wise to duck and dodge.
Was Pluto in Sagittarius good you?
Good, I think in some ways, awful squared in many others. One of the worst problems is sitting around listening to people tell me how wonderful everything is going, when you know how this idiot story ends.
max
['Not a happy thing in the beginning or at the end.']
“and not posthumously, so you can enjoy your success…”
Del, I don’t think I enjoy success or I would probably try to have some!
it was difficult, but worth it.
totally shook up my fourth house, it did.
um. that makes me sad to think of you not writing. however people live their own lives and so I do my best to accept.
Pluto in Sagittarius was very good to me in many ways.
I was a homeless, suicidal bulimic teenager on welfare when it started, and now I’m a emotionally sound creative woman with a good life. I have a home and people who love me.
And I’m really glad I didn’t succeed in killing myself because I’m genuinely happy. And I’m happy because I choose to be.
I want to read your book!
Pluto was great for me until a couple years ago and since then it has been kicking my ass.
I don’t think Pluto cares if you are good to it or not? Unless that means submitting/not holding too tight? Or seeing some Pluto back at you when you look in the mirror?
I applied to college in 1995 & ended up with a B.A. and 2 Master’s haha. I also got interested in writing, though it didn’t start coming out of me until 2000. ‘95 is also when I started being a webmaster. No wonder I want to do something different & am sick of electronic publishing!
Now I want to go to law school haha. Maybe when Saturn goes into my 9th. 
Pardon my out-to-lunchness. The part I forgot to type in there was:
I know I will know what to do but right now?
Having been through it myself, of course you won’t stop writing. Never happen. Once you’ve got the bug it never stops, and even if you quit, you’ll just do it somewhere else.
So I’d say, feel free to change where/how/what you write about, but don’t fool yourself into thinking you will never write again.
max
['Hey! I bet my comment makes more sense now!']
It was good. It was bad. It was ugly. It was powerful.
Pluto hit my Sag in the 4th four months after I was moved from Denver - leaving behind my dream job, my best friend, my family - to the boonies of NW Wisconsin. I was still reeling from the change from a huge metro to a town with ONE four way stop and no traffic lights for 20 miles, and my husband was already showing what was to come by pretending I wasn’t falling apart.
I had a miscarriage. My in laws treated us like dirt more often than not. I learned to be grateful to those old school waitresses at Denny’s who taught me how to wait tables, since that was my only employment option up here other than working in a factory.
I adjusted. Sorta. Learned to be what people in this town thought a woman married into this family should be, and played the part as well as I was able.
Got pregnant again, had my daughter in the cities 100 miles away from here after being there myself for ten days. It’s not a good thing when your water breaks at 29 weeks. She was born at 31 weeks, and I lived in the cities during the week with two overnights at home for six weeks until I could bring her home with me. My son suffered for it.
I rediscovered how healing writing is for my soul, and dug into it after Elsa disappeared from the place I met her initially. She moved to Xanga, and I read her blog there for a long time before I took the plunge. Found some mental health in it. Landed myself an (unpaid) weekly column in the local paper.
Then I fell apart from neglect. I bounced, as I do. Then I started to fall apart again. And finally finally finally…as Pluto leaves Sag and my fourth house, I took the dive back towards myself.
It’s been a helluva ride.
**
I want that book, Elsa!!! I’ve been waiting years for that book! {{{hugs}}}
was it good to me? I think I could give every possible answer to that depending on my mood. I’m in a good mood now so what the hell, yeah, I got my kids and went through an entire chapter of my life. it’s a chapter I’m happy to be done with but whatcha gonna do.
Sagittarius? 7th house for me - got married, left my hubs, got my life turned in the right direction, got happy, fixed some looooooong-standing personal issues (thank you therapy), and um … yeah. Learned to like my own company, pick my friends carefully, and appreciate the people I love. Was good to me, in a very painful, work-hard way. Cleared out the bullshit and then some. Glad to almost be moving on, though.
I remember when I lived in Boston and did not have a passport. I used to think why would people want to go through the hassle of traveling. I liked my art studio with my paints, there was enough travel for me there.
In 1992, Jupiter was about to enter my 9th and I thought I would just give myself a passport for my birthday in case I needed it. Pluto was only two thirds the way through Scorpio, and I wouldnt end up getting a stamp in my Passport until Pluto was in Sagittarius.
Since then I have been across the Atlantic ocean about 38 times, been to Turkey 26 times designing Turkish travel brochures, got married in Denmark, hiked in Austria, watched men wipe their noses in London, gave my son his first orange juice in Rome, did astrology in Paris and Brussels… yes, I have Moon and Jupiter in Sagittarius and it all got a bit exaggerated when Pluto went over my Moon at the crux of my t-square issue.
Now I feel again like why would anyone want to go through the hassle of travel. I have my studio here with my paints, my comfy apartment is a wifi zone and I curl up with my laptop in all corners…
Whoa…a long, strange trip it’s been with Pluto in my 12th. Way back when the transit began, I was reeling from a break up with the guy I thought I was gonna marry…I was in grad school, in May 96 graduated and then in August found myself living in the Big Apple, totally by the universe’s doing (I had a big 4th of July party and a friend of a friend mentioned about how someone they knew in the city needed someone to rent an apt., etc.). I moved totally on faith (very Sadge)–no job, just a place to live–because NYC was my dream come true–and it was for five years. Awesome experience that gave me a crash course in “ME” — what my strengths are, where I needed some work, etc. I began teaching, again by totally serendipitous circumstances. Pluto in Sadge really has orchestrated divine timing for me, giving me what I needed to look at myself and my “stuff” deeply, and although there were times it was horrific, there were always rewards to mitigate the angst. In 2001 I moved; in 2002 bought a house; in 2003 had two major health issues to deal with but Pluto brought it to light and it was dealt with; in 2004 my best friend of 25 years died unexpectedly; in 2005 I met someone who forever changed my perception of myself in love relationships; in 2006 I treaded water but had some professional success that made me smile; in 2007 to now I’ve dealt with seeing how strong I am, dealing with my mother’s passing, helping my dad, and dealing with a lover’s terrible betrayal. I have stepped up, been present in a way that makes me proud of myself, worked through lotsa crap, (also lost 40 pounds through this transit), feel much more of who I really am, as Pluto helped to purge my psyche of what was not needed, what held me back, limiting perceptions of myself. I have spent A LOT of time alone, however, much more than I would like…but I suppose necessary. Am looking forward to a new life when Pluto hits Cap…one in a new location, with more like-minded people to hang with, doing my thing and hopefully being there and helping others in the process.
P.S.–I agree with Max: “Having been through it myself, of course you won’t stop writing. Never happen. Once you’ve got the bug it never stops, and even if you quit, you’ll just do it somewhere else.” Spent most of my 20’s not writing…with Pluto in Sadge during most of my 30’s, I got back to the muse (or she got back to me? I think she was on extended holiday in Greece). Your writing is brilliant, Elsa. Fresh and original … Have heard about certain aspects that indicate being a “writer” in someone’s chart…I wonder if there are aspects that relate to publishing, or certain transits that make that more likely to happen. In any case, add me to the list of those who are eagerly awaiting your opus 
I am not the same person I was when Pluto went into Sadge. People who know me now would not recognize the person I was. I like this version better. I don’t think I could put it into words though.
Late Scorpio ascendant so most of Pluto in Sadge was through my first house and triggering my natal t-square. I am hoping that Pluto in Capricorn is easier for me personally but I don’t really expect life to be a breeze at any point.
I would truly miss your writing Elsa but I would behind you whatever decision was made.
I’ve got some Sag and I bet I would be laughing my ass off at your book. (no pun intended) I think you should be very proud and glad you are :).
I think so.
Spidermoon that was rad. Pluto was through my 12th too and I feel like I can relate to the whirlwind in the thorntree, to quote Johnny Cash.
pluto in sag. was good and bad, I was safe, but I was drowning in isolation, and being cut off from life. and yet, I had my children and gathered myself a bit. It was very deeply lonely.
Pluto in Sagittarius… started out opposing my Moon in late Taurus, ventured into my 12th to a conjunction w/Neptune, and then on to a conjuction with my Asc square Sun in Virgo/8th. Now, I’m quite used to working uphill (Saturn square MC/NN), but these were the absolute worst years of my life. The transit nearly killed me several times over - quite literally. Of events psychologists rate as causing the most stress (or trauma) in a person’s life, I went through 5 of the top 20 items during this period. The only thing I tell people about is the years I was very ill; I’m 32 and only now finishing my master’s degree - as the oldest student by far I sometimes have to explain how come…:)
(Natal Pluto on the 9th house cusp, too).
The most essential change in me has manifested in the area of self-worth. I used to exhibit both extremes of the superiority-/inferiority-axis so typical of the emtionally disconnected nerd/cerebral narcissist (No, rly?…;)
Being top of the class was something I took for granted and it was the image I wanted to show to the world, because I thought I had nothing else to offer, basically. This was reinforced by my parents - obviously!;) (See: Saturn;)
My “process” is going on on many levels, but this is the gist: At the end of Pluto in Sadge, I find myself a humbled, emotionally connected late bloomer (hehee) with healthy boundaries - and a bachelor’s degree:P Not quite where I thought I was headed at 19. It’s been very rough, but I’m calmer, more collected and happier now.
@Little Miss Hermit…I was 33 when I got my Master’s degree; cheers to you! You are nevah too old!:)
@kashmiri…maybe we can compare notes as to how Pluto will play with us [play or pay…hmmm. a freudian typo) as it crosses our respective ascendants…let’s hope it won’t be a burning ring of fire…or if it is, some hunk is wielding the fire extinguisher…
it’s been a deeply philosophizing past few years, especially since it went into my third house. I feel like I have forgotten how to have a light conversation. Overall good, definitely have deeper insights and feel more of a connection to life.
Elsa, the thought of not having your life stories to read every day truly makes me sad. However, if you feel that you don’t want to do this blog anymore, then who am I to (selfishly) say you should keep going anyway? It’s just that I’ve been reading your stories about your experiences, your opinions and point of view for so many years now that the possibility of your not being there, in this format, I guess leaves me feeling bereft, if that makes any kind of sense. As I’ve mentioned before, I’m not an astrologist nor have I any real interest in astrology other than to read my horoscope every once in awhile. I’ve been drawn to your blogs (at Xanga and here) because of you and your wonderful writing and your infectious storytelling style. You’ve been a true joy to have as part of my online life and I sincerely hope that you decide to keep this going. But if you decide to stop this daily blog writing, will you give us forewarning or at least write a “goodbye” type of entry so that we know you won’t be here anymore? As a longtime reader, I would truly appreciate that.
Thank you, Elsa, for writing as long as you have and for taking us along for your journey these many years.
Lil, thank you. I live above ground now - in the light so don’t worry about that. I am very easy to find and have every intention to keep it that way!:)
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You could be the next Linda Goodman! You have that kind of appeal. I hope your book gets published, and not posthumously, so you can enjoy your success.
Pluto in Sagittarius took me from a lost little girl from the sticks, plopped into the big city, who didn’t have much going for her in the way of culture or education. I was raised strict Southern Baptist but wasn’t comfortable with what I had been taught. Fast-forward to now: I’m a degreed professional who can quote Sartre on the spot and can converse (at least minimally) in two other languages. And I have a solid career in higher education. This was all happening in my 10th house, which is coming to an end, and I’m liking the social cred I’ve earned. My friends used to be drug-addled dish washers and carpet cleaners who would shoplift and drive drunk. Now I’m hanging with doctors and lawyers and going to the opera and ethnic restaurants (or cooking those dishes at home). And I’ve abandoned the hellfire-and-brimstone teachings of my youth in favor of healthy helpings of this and that from the grand cafeteria that is world spirituality. *shaking head* Who would have thought?