Aries Sun, Moon Scorpio, Cap Rising: One time in 8th grade this girl kept banging her metal chair into the back of my knees as we were moving chairs from one classroom to another. I asked her three times to stop. She did not, thinking she was being amusing. It hurt. On the third time she refused to cease and desist, I slapped her so hard across the face that it left a handprint. I’d rather not resort to physical violence, but sometimes you have no choice. I own a gun. My sister (a police officer) taught me to shoot it and I was so good the first and only time she took me to the range, I kinda scared myself. So I got an alarm system instead! (this after a stalker ex and his unpredictable behavior). I still have the gun. It is loaded and in the bedroom closet. If someone hurts you, you have every right to defend yourself with whatever it takes…sometimes words will do it the first go round, sometimes not. Wonder how my Mars in Leo plays into this; all I know is that when I’m pissed (which doesn’t happen too, too often), that Aries/Scorpio combo is nothing to be messed with.

ps Annie Oakley had a lot of FIRE in her chart. Get it, fire?

No, I can’t. I find that I am more hurt by any aggressive actions I take than by the people I am angry at. I simply do not feel comfortable with anger, and I regret it, always, even when I can see that my actions are perfectly justified. My mars in in leo, in the fourth, and you’d think I’d be pretty comfy defending my home, but I simply don’t like to oppose people.

Now more than ever, yes. But hey, I have Mars in Leo. Even with sweet ole’ Libra rising, I am like, DON”T TREAD ON ME, right now.

i don’t know. i’ve had to, a couple times, but i never feel very good about it.
i do much better slapping people in the face with how stupid they’re being by attacking me.

pisces mars. in the seventh… square neptune

Ya I could defend myself. I have sun/mars/venus/pluto in libra together in the 12th. I use the pretty as first choice but you better not fuck with me or you won’t know what’s coming.
Once a guy friend tried to throw me in a pool. I said no and he though it would be funny. I dropped and put my feet up kicking at his balls whenever he tried to grab me. Turns out that’s what you are supposed to do if attacked. It was instinct. He couldn’t get at me to throw me in. He asked his buddy to help and he said “no way, i’m not going to get kicked in the balls.”

I had a baseball bat beside my bed. when he kicked in the door and tried to kill me I balked at using violence. he took the bat away and beat me severely with it.

be very sure you are willing to USE your weapon if you choose to have one.

I don’t necessarily feel comfortable, but you do what you have to do to defend yourself. If that means matching their level of aggression with my own, then that’s what I’d do - no more, no less.

If you break into my house, I am going to shoot to kill. If you are running your mouth about me, either to my face or behind my back, I’m going to feed you rope until you hang yourself. Even if it takes years, I can wait you out.

My grandmother was on a jury with Annie Oakley. Apparently she was a nice person, chatty and everything.

As for self-defense, I am might be ok with it physically but kind of a doormat otherwise.

I have been asked this recently. I can answer honestly. Yeah, I would pull the trigger.

Becca, your comment makes me think…the house I grew up in didn’t have a lock on the door (we lived in the middle of nowhere and so there was no point).
Now, my parents have never had an alarm, they don’t lock their car, they don’t lock their door…they live in a neighbourhood infested by crackheads and prostitutes and all the “ills of society” and still you can’t get them to be afraid. They’re senior citizens and have never been broken into or had unsavoury experiences with people.

I think this has affected my views somewhat. Not sure how?

I have no doubt in my mind that I can kill. And not just in self-defense, but KILL. Period. Could I torture someone? Probably not, unless I was in that seriously pissed-off head space where I truly have no control, but murder? No sweat.

In our home we have a gun (and when we have enough $, both hubby and I want another one each), two practice swords, two bos (one hardwood and heavy as fuck, the other not so much), and one riot-grade MagLite. Both of us are at least proficient enough to use our weapons for home defense and have the temperament to do so. Ain’t no motherfucker breaking into my home and walking out unscathed!

I have to say, though, satori made an excellent point; it’s one I’ve had ground into me my whole life, since it’s my father’s first question when someone asks him about home defense. If you’re not sure you can defend yourself with it, don’t have (whatever it is) in the house because it becomes a weapon for the perp to use against you.

My Mars-Venus-Pluto are conjunct in Libra/4 and hit everything in my chart. No surprises there, eh?

That is funny…my neighbour across the hall never locks his door. I remember once he was saying to me ‘oh, I think I should get apartment insurance.’ To which I replied ‘well never tell them you don’t lock your door!’
His reasoning is that he forgets his keys all the time and so just needs someone to let him in and he’s good. Weird.

My Dad never used to lock his car at night and even knew someone was sleeping in it at night but didn’t care (he was a working vagrant for years so is empathetic about needing a place to sleep)…until the person left an empty whiskey bottle in it, and then started locking it. His Libran desire for manners got the better of him, ha ha!