I was writing tomorrow’s forecast and realized Pluto in in exact aspect with Mercury and this question well represents the energy, never mind all the death on the blog the last day or so…

Oh, and I got so carried away by my Mars-Pluto experience, I forgot to add that I have no experience of sexual violence, so I can’t back this up that way… maybe a big difference of a transiting aspect vs. a natal aspect. But then again, isn’t violence of men against women always “sexual” violence of some sort? Exploiting the power inequality?

Is there a quick, simple definition of conjunct, square, and opposition?

Just wondering.

i dated a man with a mars/pluto square. and yes, he was sexually abused (by a woman.) he also was really uncertain about boundaries. in the “no means maybe means yes, right?” kind of way.

i have mars square pluto and that profile doesn’t fit me at all!

“Pluto has no effect on synastry at all”

::rolls eyes::

I have mars sq pluto and while I have never been sexually assaulted, I have been exposed to sexual content at too a young age, which has been something for me to deal with all these years. The older I get, the more complicated it becomes to deal with. I do not, however, have a problem staying faithful though. I am as loyal as they come.

I had to go look it up on astrodienst. I have a large Q between Mars and Pluto at 2 degrees orb (separating). What does that Q mean? I rarely use any aspects except the conj/sq/trine/sex/opp.

I was sexually molested as a child by my father when I was ages 9 thru 12.

yay Jilly! 20 years!

Just curious…does this apply in a composite chart? I have been and am experiencing what feels like tempered (long distance and briefly sexual & now non-sexual with each other for 8 years)”obsessive love/love affair” with someone and we have Mars squaring Pluto in our composite chart. Can someone address this?

I have Mars opposed Pluto. Abuse and obsession. Karmic and reality (reality?)

Loons–thanks for your posts. You’re intelligence and honesty is valuable to me
What does MSW mean, for a gal not in the know?

Mars trine Pluto. Definite sexual inappropriateness going on in my household. I’m loathe to call it abuse, but any other shrink would say it was. And I have to agree. Definite lack of boundaries in my household, both sexually, physically and emotionally.

Astro.com says that Mars Trine Pluto =You can be effective in solving awesome problems in society because you have a deep understanding of those problems and their origins. I’m an MSW practicing family therapy with abused children. Ain’t that a kick in the ass?

Kashmiri–> MSW = Masters in Social Work.

I would say that a Ma/Pl square in mutable signs is way, way, way different in quality to one in the fixed signs, almost 2 different aspects completely. Fixed you have Mars (force) Pluto (irresistible force) in fixed signs (immovable), that’s an enormous tensor. I think the Ma/Pl square from Leo to Scorpio is the worst to have - by a mile.

I have Ma/Sag./3rd sq. Pl/Vi/on the Ascendant. I provoked very difficult reactions in my peers at school. I had to learn very early on that my sarcasm was very provocative and could get me into serious trouble. I’d get beaten up a lot, although out of necessity I learned to fight some and with Scorpio, you learn to get the job done, even if you don’t do it beautifully. So it was Ma/Pl square which got me into trouble, but it was the same aspect which got me out of trouble too, if that makes sense. It can be very ruthless and even brutal in quality so it requires careful handling, but if you can transform it (trine it) then it gives superhuman drive and energy. With my Mars in the 3rd it allows me to write (3rd house) a lot about occult (Pluto) matters, and astrology (Uranus is conjunct Pluto, so similar).

Ernst Hemingway and Stewart Granger had the square, as does Oprah (I believe), while I think that Gandhi had the opposition. It is difficult, but now I am dealing with it more effectively, I think on balance it’s definitely a keeper.

I have mars (capricorn 27 degrees) sq pluto (Libra 24), with venus (Sagittarius 11) semi square them both.

I’ve been raped once (date rape) and subject to unwanted/unwelcome sexual advances a number of times. Most recently a VP at my current company put his tongue in my mouth at a company event. Previously a guy in estimating offered to fuck me in the closet. This despite the fact, because I am taking this job very seriously, I have never worn a skirt above the knee, or a shirt that shows any sort of cleavage. I have purposely done my best to present as as nice a girl as I can. I dress for church here. - The VP isn’t a pig either. My friend had this job before I did so I’m aware of the company gossip for about 5 years and my friend barely believed it when I told her. “Are you sure?” uhm. Yes.

In the past I have slept with at least one co-worker (consensually) at most of the jobs I’ve held, I’d say 75% of the people I’ve slept with were somehow connected with work (my birthtime is uncertain,{between 6 and 8 am ish} but pluto is probably cnj my mc).

My Uranus is also in aspect to Mars and I’ve had three relationships with little or nothing to keep ‘em going but compulsive attraction (on both sides) with men born in 1984. (all hockey players heh) That puts their Uranus on my Venus, and semi-square my Mars and Pluto.

I was constantly afraid of sexual molestation when I was a kid. Wildly paranoid, but nothing actually happened. I was exposed to sexually explicit material early though and that had an effect.

I have Mars Opposite Pluto in composite as well. There is an undertone of sexual savagery between us. I don’t know how else to describe it. I guess that’s why I’m so hung up on him…not the kind of stuff that comes along every day.

I have Sun Conjunction Pluto at 0°07 in natal and I most strongly identify with this energy than any other aspect in my chart. In fact, when I first started delving into astrology the sun/pluto was literally the ‘HA’ moment that helped me give shape to my behaviour in the past. I have been doing a bit of reading about pluto in order to get a handle on myself too and found this from Neith. I think she posts here.

http://realastrologers.com/?p=399

I’m amazed at how many people here were abused or assaulted! I know it’s fairly frequent, statisically, but I had no idea. . ..

I have a Mars-Pluto-Venus conjunction in Libra/4th that contacts everything in my chart. I haven’t had any kind of sexual abuse or assault, and I’ve always been faithful to my partners once monogamy was declared (usually before, too).
I did learn about sexuality really young, though, because my mom explained the birds-n-bees to my sister and I before her hysterectomy when I was four. And I also seem to attract friends that have been abused/assaulted.

mars square pluto. No sexual abuse, no sexual obsession. Saturn sits on top of my mars if that’s any explanation. Lots of people try to penetrate my boundaries or are boundary inappropriate, including my parents. I seem to have very high walls and highly delineated boundaries and kind of always have had them so I guess I’m attracting people who want otherwise?

Jilly - i was bullied at school something horrible. That’s interesting you bring that up in this context.

No and no. I have Mars opposite Pluto. It’s a wide orb, out of sign opposition. Leo Pluto and Pisces Mars.
I’m so sorry for the commenters that have these terrible experiences.
I rarely comment about aspects in my chart because I have heavily, heavily aspected planets. Rather than explain my chart patterns, I’ll say that Mars aspects 7 of the traditional planets in my chart. Well, I have Venus conjunct Mars, out of sign.

Also, I’ve been with only one man for a complete Saturn cycle (almost 30 years). Our composite chart has Mars trine Pluto. His Mars and Pluto are not in aspect.

I checked the charts for my family. My father and both brothers have the trine aspect.

Thanks for the question and discussion.

Yeah, I have Mars in opposition to Pluto; I’ve had a number of experiences that could be interpreted this way, though not any kind of direct molestation or abuse.

What’s interesting, and perhaps this post has solved this for me, is that one year (somewhere around 2003) three people who’d only just met me - and all on separate occasions - told me either directly (or told my BF at the time) that they thought I was sexually abused. This was startling to me.

So startling, that I went into therapy to try to “remember” - but nothing came.

One woman - and she was a doctor - actually cried in my presence because she was so upset (by my energy, I guess?) and immediately took me to another room and asked if I’d been sexually abused.

Good grief.

I have Mars conjunct Pluto in my 5th house and the Sun is only 5 degrees away so really it’s a triple conjunction. I’m a woman in my 30s and I guess I look totally “normal” to anyone who doesn’t know the real me. I’ve always been attracted to males that are very magnetic, charismatic and powerful in some way. Even more, I enjoy s/m and possess an extremely strong and unrelenting sexual drive for a Virgo. When I was a teenager my fantasies would often involve s/m and even rape. I’ve never been raped and would never want it to happen irl, but in my fantasies, the more “powerful” the male, the more I enjoy the act, the more I respect the man and the more I “open up” to accept him inside me. And in a way rape is absolute power. I know it may sound weird to some, I’m just describing how it is. I also enjoy being the one who dominates, especially “innocent”-looking or younger men. When I was a teenager my fantasies would often involve military clothes. Factories, power plants and other places where Mars is strong would often figure in my sexual fantasies, as would hospitals, dark alleys etc. As I grew up and my sexuality evolved many of these “savage” tendencies died down and now I’m also into more spiritual things like tantric sex. The central idea remains, however, and it can be summed up as a desire for fusion of massive amounts of raw sexual power. I was not physically molested as a child but there were serious power struggles all around and in a sense I was exposed to too much too soon. All my “serious” relationships have been either with Scorpios or with men who have Pluto strongly placed in their chart, and there’s often Mars/Pluto in our synastry/composite too. It does tend to produce power struggles unfortunately… but on the other hand they are the only men with whom sex can be what I need it to be.

i’m just out of a relationship with someone i shared a composite mars pluto opposition. just found out he was cheating one me. he was very hot and cold, and we’ve also got some dodgy neptune connections which may explain his continual lying. i was hugely drawn to him, completely bowled over, and it was very very intense. then all of a sudden i felt shut out. i feel very emotionally abused by him and manipulated. he also has a venus opposition pluto transit current. i’m glad i’m out of it yet still feeling like i’m withdrawing from an addiction. incredibly painful, awful experience.

I was molested as a young girl and my mother married my molester. I then went to my pastor for help and he made moves on me. I told my mother about what my pastor did and she suddenly got the hots for him! All these incidents were treated by my family as if they never happened to me!

This has been a big deal most of my life and has caused me much emotional pain and confusion, yet I don’t have a Mars/Pluto or a Mars/Uranus connection of any kind.

However, my Pluto conj. my Uranus and they both sit right on top of my Ascendent and both oppose my Chiron (in Pisces), so it makes me wonder if Chiron opposing Pluto or Pluto on my AC or both are what caused this to manifest in my life.

Any insight on this is very much appreciated.

I forgot to say I have the square. But is pretty good for stamina and sexual stamina in particular:D

I have Mars trine Pluto with Mars in the 5th and Pluto in the 8th. I was exposed to pornography at a young age - mainly because I was a nosy and curious kid, always snooping where I really should not have been. I read somewhere a few years ago that young Leos like to be known as the “neighborhood sex expert” and this was true, but I was all talk and no action. I would describe myself as obsessed with sex and it has posed problems in relationships. I have to try to remember - sex isn’t everything!