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Cool People vs The Others, Like Me
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Tam wrote, “satori you are so funny” in response to her comment on the Neptune statue, “I like that statue– dude looks like he’s havin’ a chesterfield while airing out his junk.”
This reminded me of a conversation I had with satori recently - That is, she is one of the cool people. You know the cool people? The people who if you get one of them for your friend, then you are sort of cool yourself? Well satori is one of them and I am not one of them.
I am one of the people who you would like to be friends with… well you might like to be friends with me however there is great risk involved. God only knows what I am going to do next. I surely have no idea so only the very nervy admit to knowing me, or link me from their blog or something. In fact I ought to say that distinctly:
If you are someone who links me, well thank you very much. I am a guilty pleasure for so many, I am heartened by the people who admit they like me but anyway, satori and I talked about this and she said she knew she was a cool person and she always had been. She went on to say what a horror it was and I was completely fascinated because everything she said made sense and this is something I know nothing about.
Now maybe she will come on here and tell you guys what she told me… write a blog or something because her thoughts really were insightful, innovative and interesting. I would tell you myself but unfortunately I am not cool enough to talk like her so you know. We’re hosed if we’re relying on me but aside from that, here is my question:
Are you one of those cool people who increase a persons status by association? What is on your Midheaven?
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well I believe you’re one of the cool people. I also know I’m lucky to know you. also, if you didn’t remember my words I’m sure I never would. you’ll have to remind me what I said… urgh.
my north node is on my midheaven, taurus. it forms a kite with my moon, neptune, pluto, which activates my kite in water. I think.
I feel highly complimented (and vaguely narcissistic).
damn, satori. Whatever it was you said, it was unexpected and I was riveted. It was not some cheesy PC bullshit thing but shocking. I do recall you said I was lucky I was not cool and after hearing what you had to say on the subject, I was thanking my lucky stars!
whew! cos it totally could have come off like “don’t hate me cos I’m beautiful!” :p
it looks like Neptune up there agrees– chuh!
No, no. Exactly opposite that. Shockingly opposite that and if I can remember what the hell you said… well dammit I just can’t remember at all but it sure was crap. I remember thinking I was a million miles away from your experience and I best thank God.
I have jupiter/uranus in libra on the midheaven. Maybe everyone thinks I’m on their side, until they discover I’m not taking sides.
Honestly, I often don’t know how I appear.
I am not one of the cool people. But my husband is. People just LIKE him. I don’t blame them
My moon is on my midheaven. Which might make people feel warm and fuzzy except it is opposite Pluto and square Saturn. So, yeah, not so much
Hmmm, I’m really not sure if I am or not….maybe I’m getting cooler?
My Midheaven is in Sagittarius, but it friggin touches everything: Mars square:
Saturn square:
Uranus square:
Pluto square: Midheaven
But Elsa have you ever thought that lot’s of the things that are said on your blog can be kind of private, and maybe that’s why people aren’t spreading the word so much? (they don’t want to get found out) They don’t want the people they are talking about to know just exactly what they think? I mean, then a person might have to start editing themselves…..
“But Elsa have you ever thought that lot’s of the things that are said on your blog can be kind of private, and maybe that’s why people aren’t spreading the word so much?”
Nope, that never occurred to me and may account for something but the wide majority of people who read here never comment.
Someone told me awhile back if people perceive you as “big” or doing well, they will pull their support and I have definitely experienced this. The number of people linking here is down 30% from where it was when I first started even though the traffic is way up..
I’m sure you’re onto something there. That’s something my ex always said and he can be very clever in that way. If he has insights on people’s behaviour, I usually listen.
Can someone link you onto facebook?
I think I’m moderately cool and I bring the fun, although not to strangers and it seems like I have to initiate activities much more often than I am asked to come along.
I have Sun conjunct my MC in Gemini which forms a T-Square with Moon/AC and Mars/DC.
Hmmm I don’t know if I’m cool or not. Pisces MC square sun, mars, neptune.
Maybe they don’t link you Elsa because they don’t want people to know that they are into astrology. Most people think astrology is fake and they may be afraid that people will think that they are stupid to believe in astrology. I don’t tell all of my friends that I’m into astrology, in fact most don’t know because I don’t want to try to explain it to them, it’s waaaay over my head at this point.
“Maybe they don’t link you Elsa because they don’t want people to know that they are into astrology.”
Tam - Good point. I actually forget there are people like this… in the closet I guess you could say.
But fact is, my links are down more than 30% from a couple years ago so I do think the phenomena of people pulling their support is in force. “She doesn’t need my link…”
This thinking is precisely wrong because like I said the support I receive is way down not otherwise.
I’ve got Scorpio on the Midheaven, with no planets within ten degrees either way. I am not now nor have I ever been one of the cool people.
Best advice I’ve gotten in the last ten years actually had to do with working with teenagers in libraries, but I think it can be applied more broadly: if you’re not cool, don’t pretend to be cool. Much better to be uncool than a fake. Wish I’d gotten that advice in high school, though I probably wouldn’t have taken it then.
My Midheaven is kind of like Satori’s, a kite focused on it in Libra, conjunct Neptune and Mercury. All opposed by the moon in Aries. And all this is a LOT of fire living around my earth core. Maybe volcano is the metaphor for me. And though I normally don’t think I’m too very cool, certain other people do. I periodically feel like EVERYONE wants a piece of me. Too bad, they don’t get it or me.
And then, when it comes to my own particular special interests and abilities, I do tend to think that I am waaaayyy cool. So cool that hardly anybody anywhere gets it/gets me, whatever. In fact, that ends up being a sort of automatic “geek effect.” You know, something gets so extreme that it turns into its own opposite. In the Western world that’s called “enantiodromia,” according to Robert Couteau.
Satori: a Chesterfield! Too funny, really. (I’m old enough to remember. In fact I used to smoke them, and Camels, and Lucky Strikes, etc.)
I tell people about your blog and I don’t think what you write on here is particularly “private.” Private often doesn’t appeal to the public because it usually connotes a ship’s log or a journal that chronicles one’s day to day. I understand people get drawn to you because they see wisdom in your stories about general things. Plus you use stories for instructive purposes. It’s not an online journal. I think online you are one of the cool people, even if you’re not in your personal life. I got the impression people think you are unique/a big personality.
Wow! I can’t believe we’re talking about cool people. This is a topic about which I am obsessed because I, unfortunately, am NOT cool person but I WANT to be one like whoa. I have Chiron conjunct, Saturn and Mars opp. and Venus, Jupiter, Sun square. Always on the outside of the cool realm. I would give a lot to cross the wall!
Also, Elsa, you’re totally cool. You were a bartender and really, there are no cooler people than bartenders. I recently became one and, activating my super-Virgo rising/moon/Sun in the 6th house powers I dedicated myself to learning how to be cool. Cool is all about genuinely not giving a shit what other people think of you. I will never, ever be that person but as my Leo grandma always says, fake it ’til you make it.
I don’t know. However, I have been accused of deliberately plotting against former friends–as in the ’she is trying to turn everyone against me’ variety.
There are 2 people in my life who I amputated and decided to never smear them. My philosophy was ‘who talks first becomes asshole–so I’ll never talk.’ I never, ever speak badly…in fact I am silent, which becomes a Cap Moon embroiled in crap like this.
It has transpired in the last few days that these people who I never speak ill of think I’m turning the whole world against them.
This, my friends, is Scorpio Midheaven. I’m obviously a witch with secret powers. Blech.
Sorry, to clarify (because I’m sensitive) I’m not entirely silent. I actually speak highly of these people if I can. As in: X was a great roommate who always made me tea in the morning. Or, Y would never begrudge someone getting laid.
I’m totally sensitive about it because I feel like I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t. As if I’m cool enough to have this kind of power.
Definitely not. I have Venus in Libra so Im well liked but definitely not cool. My MC is in Sag conjunct Uranus. I think Im just weird or different to people. With a packed 8th house Im pretty much a loner which I like.
You seem totally cool, Elsa. Neptune illusion or not. . .
You are completely original. You live at your own speed and walk your own path. And what is cooler than sharing your coolness?
I’m cool, or at least appear that way.
Cap MC, Aqua Sun, Merc, Mars 10th house.
Isn’t it odd how the definition of cool seems to be changing though?
Cool used to be like James Dean.
I hear that word used all the time now to describe someone who fits in to the group, someone who is “on the level”, or possesses some sort of understanding that makes them an acceptable associate.
For instance, prior to meeting someone I hear: “You’ll like her, she’s cool.”
I haven’t been checking in as regularly as I once did (due to stuff on my end). But, I’ve been an Elsa Cult Member for quite a while now. And when I have a place of my own to link to Elsa, I always do. Much love for Elsa!
Thank you, Rainie.
Naw I dont think Im one of the cool people. I gave up trying to be one of the cool kids a long time ago & decided I liked me just fine anyway LOL. I happen to like you a lot too Elsa, cool kid or not. Ive got you linked over on my blogger (because blogger makes adding things like that easy, while Xanga - as much as I like it - makes it difficult unless youre a pay to play member & Im not) and will have you linked again if I ever get around to moving to my own domain.
Not cool, never have been, never will be. Aquarius on the MC. I am, as I’ve found out, the oddity people keep around for entertainment. I spice things up because I carry left field in my right pocket and pull it out to polish every so often. Inadvertently that is. People like to watch and listen but wouldn’t want to carry left field in THEIR pocket.
Unfortunately, I meet a number of people that like to “collect” oddities in their life. That doesn’t feel good and I distance myself as fast as possible. I do attract Uranian types, boy do I, and then they find out that under that MC is a very down to earth, practical beyond belief, interested in the tangible, workable, solidness of mud, wood, plants, buildings instead of the way out ideas they think I have. They’re always disappointed when they get to know me up close.
Sorry to hear about your zombie troubles Kashmiri - hope they clear up soon :o)
..i don’t think so.
i have a jupiterey gemini midheaven.
still confused by that.
Re: the linking. It could be a natural curve. As in there are only so many links that are going to happen, and you have hit a natural wall. I don’t know that links naturally keep increasing ad infinitum. Unless you’re saying you’re down in actual numbers, not the rate. Like you had 100 links but now there are 80, versus you used to be linked to at a rate of 50 per year and now it’s only 30 or something.
Blech, I’m boring myself.
That’s an interesting thought Llama…. you mean like a parabola?
I don’t know, I have Pluto transiting my 11th house and I have no idea what kind of friend I am.
I have Saturn, Mars, and Uranus on my Midheaven. I am serious, angry, and weird all at the same time. I am probably viewed as much too unpredictable to get to know very well. But I look cool.
I have Mars on the midheaven, and people either love or hate me on sight. I got hated at first sight from the first day of kindergarten on at school, so I am uncool to the infinite power of uncool.
(Things have improved since then.)
I think I am probably so nerdy that I am cool.
Sun/South Node conj. midheaven with Uranus as my oriental planet.
When I think of the image of ‘cool’ I think of a general charisma that pulls in world fame such as exhibited by the fonz from happy days (snaps his fingers, the juke box comes on), that woman in the L-word, Shane, who magnetically attracts almost all women, or Joey in Friends “How’re YOU doin….”
I have Mercury there and I notice that people get a lot of information from me. I’m a little bit like a walking newstand lol. But I also have Capricorn, so I guess that drains the cool out of it…
zombie! ineedely, i hope my zombies go away soon, too!
ummmmm, Kashmiri, was that a typo?
ineedely?
um yes, i actually….HA HA oh how sillyof me! I meant:
in-deed-ell-ley…ineedely is like a freudian slip.
oh that’s okay, kashmiri, we’re all allowed to have the occasional brain fart….
just don’t be too loud about it!
whoever smelt it dealt it
hahahahaaaha!
Lol, no I’m more like you, Elsa. There is a risk involved;) I have Uranus in Scorpio on the Midheaven, and an emphasis on Pluto and the 8th house. My finger tends to be on the pulse of what the group needs, not what it wants. Uh-oh;)
Haven’t been cool according to our culture for most of my life; haven’t cared about it for almost as long.
I was “cool” the first two years of school, then a social pariah from age seven on. At nine I decided that those fuckers didn’t matter anyway. *lol*
Pisces MC conjunct South Node, opposite Mars-Venus-Pluto conjunction, and trine Jupiter.
this discussion is very interesting to me. i’ve never felt like one of the cool kids, but i know that i actually got a lot cooler after a pluto transit a while back.
to me, “cool” is about people authentically expressing their own energy without a lot of fear about how others will react. (i realize that fear could be part of your authentic expression, and haven’t really worked out that detail yet.)
my 4th house pluto transit, i dropped lots of excess baggage and let go of self-images that were pretty significantly rooted. when my own opinion of myself changed, others began to respond differently, too, and i “got” a lot cooler. i don’t know if i’ll ever feel cool, though, or just keep on being an alien…
Goddess, that would certainly explain why I have the same working definition of “cool” as you. Perhaps the others who commented that being authentically yourself is cool also have some Pluto-4th contacts?