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The Saturn Return Of The Soldier And P - The Path We Didn’t Take
Astrology in real life
And I had another thought. I was contemplating a mail I may or may not send the soldier’s son. It concerns the path not chosen. By some quirk of the universe (that happens to coincide perfectly with Saturn’s cycle through the zodiac) the soldier and I have the opportunity to now take the path we did not take when we were kids. And if you are one kind of person you think, “Oh well but you’re old.”
But if you are another kind of person, the concept of time and age might mean very little. Some might think that we will do exactly and precisely what we’d have done back then had we joined out forces, we’d have just been delayed. And this is relevant because the soldier as always has wild tales. And in his case, the wild tales tend to manifest. And the wild tales he tells now are the same wild tales he told then so might some of these things manifest now? In other words, is it possible I have been given a 30 years in advance heads up?
::smirks::
I am afraid this might be the case. Last time I balked, this time I won’t.
Is there a path you turned away from at some point in your life? What would you do if it presented itself again? Would age factor?
29 Responses to “The Saturn Return Of The Soldier And P - The Path We Didn’t Take”
I don’t know, I toss this around a lot. I often think back to - what if I’d gone with that guy instead of that one. What if I had stayed instead of gone? What if I knew then what I know now? But this has been the evolution of my life. And I don’t think I could have made choices any differently than I made them.
In a recent situation, my ex is about to marry another women. He was a good match for me, but our timing was off. I left the country (mostly in fear of commitment) he committed to someone else. But had I stayed with him, I wouldn’t have gone to my ancestral village, to have gone through a whole identity crises and come out stronger for it; I may not have appreciated what he was offering . . . and so it wouldn’t have meant what it does now. And while it does seem like I can have him now . . . I’m more clear about what I want because of him.
Ugh. I meant “and while it does seem like I CAN’T have him now . . . ”
I’d like to think I would rethink of couple of my paths. I chickened out and I have overcome a lot of fear in the last 30 years and think I have more integrity and courage. I’m not sure age would be a factor, but circumstances would be…having children, I would definitely have to take them into consideration for any path I took.
This is probably a really dumb question, but when does the Saturn return begin its manifestations? I just turned 27 in February and I am feeling like I am suddenly being given the chance to take all these different paths/directions.
Monica - if you are 27, I would say you’re heading into your saturn return now… and from here it just gets more and more serious but slowly. Don’t be scared see, because there will be time to make small adjustments and you’ll be fine..
I shy away from different paths because I will over-analyze a major decision to the point where I convince myself to change my mind about it (totally talking myself out of something). But as I learn more about my N. Node in Leo, I know that I need to take risks and choose paths that I might initially be afraid of. Really, learning about the N. Node has been eye opening.
I can remember one significant day, actually: I was backpacking in Greece with 4 guys I’d met. One night they went on the town/prowl and I met a gal (stranger) in a cafe. We talked from 8 p.m.-5 a.m. One of the best conversations in my life. She was such an interesting and gentle person.
She asked me to travel with her but I was basically down the pants of one of the guys…so I said no. I went with the guy for a few years, watched him spiral into serious addiction, which was incredibly hard.
As for the gal…I lost her contact information and never saw/heard from her again. I used to think about her all the time, what my life would have been like had I travelled with someone I had a ’soul’ connection with as opposed to just screwing and partying with someone.
What would I do now? Well in spite of the fact that every moment in my life has led to ‘now’ (and I’m happy with my now’)…I would definitely have upped and left with the gal. yes I would have chosen different and yes age is a factor.
If I know one thing at 31 that I didn’t at 20…it’s that there are no shortage of crazy people who like to have sex, LOL.
“we’d have just been delayed” I tend to think this way, but my belief system is such that things are always ‘perfect’ as they are.
As for the situation I wrote about above, I feel as though I simply wasn’t ready for ’soul connections’ when I was 20. I was depressed/ill when I was a teen, crazy in my 20s, and really feel like life just keeps unfolding. But I’m only 31, and a lot can happen in 10 years, so perhaps I’m speaking too soon?
“But I’m only 31, and a lot can happen in 10 years, so perhaps I’m speaking too soon?”
Interesting question. Perhaps you are just speaking and there is no judgment??
Kashmiri–you seem to have had the most interesting life, especially for only being 31. I hope to go “backpacking in Greece” someday! Gosh!
Elsa, I think the path is never the same because life happens in time and time doesn’t go back. Age is life time, so it matters. When you now look at the path that you didn’t take before, you look at it knowing what was in the woods on the path you did take, and that makes a real difference. Because if we knew what is in the woods for all our paths, we wouldn’t have to walk on them anymore. So your path is always new, what makes it look familiar is the face of the one who walks with you, but you never know what’s in the woods until you go through. That’s at least my experience.
Conny that is interesting. I am writing more on this. I can see your point - For example, we wont be making any babies which is something we’d have surely done when we were young however time (for a Saturn Neptune type) is very slippery. It’s tricky as shit which might become clearer with the next post.
Yup–I’m one of those ‘time is relative’ people. You know when you were writing about feeling the sun on your skin, Elsa, I tend to do that with time. Dream myself into being at a place in time, especially with people who I love who are no longer around.
Thanks shell, I guess it’s the 10th House Uranus opposed Sun that brings a tinge of weirdness to anything, lol.
time is extraordinarily sticky. not something i’m going to weigh too heavily on…
i figure i made the mistakes i did so i can learn the lessons i have.
i’m realizing that “too late” is only real if you’ve given up. in the meawhile, though, there’s lots of fascinating stuff to explore and new experiences coming around the bend all the time….
hmmm,…thought-provoking stuff
i don’t usually turn the what-if light on relationships too much. good or bad, i tend to feel like everything worked out the way it had to - i was being me in the moment and they were being them, and we can only meet as we are, right? (sag moon+neptune trine leo merc+jupiter talking? i don’t often leave things unsaid)
but yah, i know the whole missed connection feeling (i did say neptune, right? and a pisces SN)
i’m in the middle of my first saturn return now 
well, ok, it’s not all bad, but i feel more aware than ever about how choices make us more specific and limited. i guess i’m seeing the forks on the path in a big big picture way. from 30,000 feet. it’s a little melancholy sometimes, the whole crystallizing, stabilizing, defining thing.
Great questions and comments! Elsa- I do find it very interesting that you are coming back to choose a path that you did not, due to circumstance, take before. Kind of like Rumplestiltskin waking up several decades later. Or being lost in the woods for 30 years and realizing that you had come full circle. Freaky! We make choices every day about our path. There are many paths I did not take. Sometimes I ponder what would have happened if I had made different choices. Perhaps part of my soul did take different paths and maybe there are parallel realities to my life like an infinite mandlbrot pattern. Current popular power of now thinking tells us to live in the now and not dwell on the past. My planets in Libra can see the benefit of this thinking but says everything in moderation, even moderation. Neptune and Scorpio could be messing with my head too. Age is not a factor unless your dead! Would I do it again. Yes I hope so!
Rip Van Winkle not Rumplestiltskin. Rumple was my long lost cousin famous for spinning gold out of straw.
Doublecappy, I caught that straight away! oops! LOL
Great thought-provoking posts, Wyrdling I really liked yours - very to-the-point.
Elsa, I don’t know if I am making the right decision or the wrong one (the young Scorpio Sun that I am interested in) but I am not going to toss out a relationship with him just because of age. I am going to take a chance. Scary, but you only live once. I don’t know if that helps you at all.
Elsa, as he is just about to turn 27, should I be concerned about messing with his Saturn Return? (I don’t even know if I could?)
Hey, doesn’t that picture look like it could have come out of Lord of the Rings?!!
I remember that Rumpelstiltskin drew his power from keeping his name as a secret. Once his victim (the miller’s daughter) found out his name, Rumpelstiltskin lost all his power, went into the ground and never came back. The miller’s daughter was free and her firstborn child too. That shows how important it is to call things by their name.
I was compelled not to go to graduate school because I was gearing my life around hoping my Asian Capricorn boyfriend would propose to me. I thought if I left his radar screen it would have lowered my chances of getting hitched.
Strangely though, I dumped him eventually, because being in his radar screen wasn’t helping the situation, and I broke our hearts. I was just before my Saturn Return.
14 years later, at my Saturn opposition, I met a different Asian Capricorn man who was the same age and size as my old boyfriend and I were, 26, when we got together, except then I was 40 but we got just as smitten anyway. He was just before his Saturn return, and after 3 years with me he was changing. He got a crew cut (a Saturn hairdo) and moved to Berlin, 2 hours away. I still got on the train as often as I could, but once Pluto hit his Mars, he took off on a jet, and he changed forever.
During that relationship with the younger Asian Capricorn, the older Asian Capricorn came back into my life, and with HIM I still have a precious kind of contact. He asks me for astrology advice a lot. Funny thing is, if I had stayed with him, I think I would have stayed in America. If I had left him for grad school in the first place, I think I would have become a designer for a large corporation, like Google or Ebay or Microsoft or Apple. I am not sure I would have become an astrologer had I stayed with the elder Asian Capricorn, but that is exactly why he loves me now, thought we are not a couple, we talk on the phone and write emails, always initiated by him.
With the numbers 28, 14, and 7, Saturn is involved, the ancient ruler of Aquarius and Capricorn, thus also is Fate. And when Fate is involved so is astrology.
That was very interesting Deirdre. Yeah, you really get the sense of Fate having a hand in your life.
As far as my Scorpio Sun guy goes, my mom warned me that my heart could get really broken. I know that, and I sure don’t want a broken heart, but I see a lot of potential with him. I know that when I talk to him about stuff (Mercury trine Juno is one aspect I have) he goes away and thinks about it. He listens and takes it in, instead of just sloughing it off.
I like that, Deirdre. When my Capricorn SO had Pluto conjunct his Mars, he changed forever too. Whoa.
“Elsa, as he is just about to turn 27, should I be concerned about messing with his Saturn Return? (I don’t even know if I could?)”
Snap - I think you should just live…
I think that the path is different because of all the experiences the two people (you all, in this case) have had. But this?
“Oh well but you’re old.”
NO WAY! It’s just as likely that it would be BETTER now for the experiences you’ve both had. And maybe this is just me, but less likely to take the other person for granted, you really appreciate what you’ve got. (I say maybe this is me because maybe you would have appreciated it either way).
Perhaps this separation and reunion is a fated part of the journey?
I had a lot of reason to stress over this in the last year. The only path not taken I can think of, is one that could never really present itself again. It would have meant turning away from a partnership, and as a Libra that’s something I almost never do. I am the kind of person who thinks age and time don’t matter. I think like wyrdling in being okay with paths not chosen in the past. This may be because I am Sun/Uranus and so I always take what feels like a crazy leap at the time.
Conny, I LOVE your first answer.
Elsa, thank you. You brought tears to my eyes.
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Heh, I don’t know. I’ve had experiences (sadly, one of them I was dumb enough to mention here, kill me now) where I had exes come back from the dead and I considered re-hopping back on the train even though I had been over them for years. I fully knew better, wouldn’t have imagined doing so pre-hearing from them, but when I haven’t had any other options come along, the old-and-known had a lot more appeal than “wait for a miracle indefinitely.” At least, it did for a few days until I emotionally sobered up
So yeah, I’ve had those paths presented to me again, and I was dumb enough to reconsider. Thank the gods that one ex didn’t bother to contact me afterwards and the other one turned out that uh, his life wasn’t going nearly so well as he seemed to think it was. Clearly, I am just totally stupid and learn NOTHING from the past.