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The Soldier And P And Their Mutual Venus Neptune Yearning, Pining And General Love Agony

Astrology in real life

Regarding the soldier’s new (real) chart with it’s amended time, he picks up a Venus Neptune exchange. This is not hard to believe considering the 25 years he spent collecting songs about his love. Venus Neptune pines (I’d know) and had divine discontent (I’d know). Here is one of the forms this takes in current day:

“P, I just have to stand it I guess,” the soldier said.

“Stand what?”

“Your bootlin’” he said. “You always want to bootle.”

“Well what do you want to do?”

“Stay in the mud hole. Be in the mud hole like the rhino I am and have you be in the mud hole with me.”

“Oh.”

“Yeah, we go to sleep in the mud hole and wait up in the morning… by then I am just getting comfortable in the hole and then you get up and start bootlin’. Gazelles aren’t meant for the mud hole,” he said.

“Er…”

“Come on P! You aren’t getting in and staying in a mud hole! Gazelles just come up to the edge, maybe get a little hoof in the mud when they’re getting drink and then they’re gone. They’re on their way.”

“And you?”

“Well I’m stuck! Once I get in a mud hole, it’s very hard to get out. It’s almost impossible…”

So this is our (mutual) Venus Neptune lament. We are both in love with someone we can’t quite be with. I mean, I would like to lie in the bed with him all dense and heavy-bottomed, hang around all day but it’s just not possible and it leaves us both in a state of ache.

Can other Venus Neptune folk relate?

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| Posted at 11:10 am

19 Responses to “The Soldier And P And Their Mutual Venus Neptune Yearning, Pining And General Love Agony”

Dim says on 7/3/08 at 11:32 am:

Haha.. completely. My new boyfriend (yeah, I move quickly :P) is a Taurus rising… I’m an Aries rising… He’s always wanting me to stick around and stop moving around so much. But I know we’d both get tired of each other if I stuck around too long so… “bootlin” I go.
kashmiri says on 7/3/08 at 11:36 am:

Oooooh can I ever (I have Venus trine Neptune). I’m sure my SO would love if I stayed inside his (warm and lovely) back pocket continuously.
I have a lot of emotional commitments. I also love going out dancing as much as I can and he doesn’t understand why I don’t stay home and dance with him…of course I do (love dancing in the apartment) but also I need to be fed by the vibe I get from being swallowed by a crowd.

(He has Scorpio Moon conjunct Venus and I’ll let you decipher how much I love the vibe that brings. It’s nice to know for certain you are loved).
Jessica says on 7/3/08 at 12:23 pm:

I’m good at loving impossible loves, but luckily this one has my exact same square (Venus conj. Venus, Neptune conj. Neptune) and now that you make me think about it, we pine for just exactly the same things.

But more importantly, I think it’s fascinating that the Soldier’s chart turns out to have Venus-Neptune. I love that story, it’s so sweet the rhino wants you in his mud hole. Do you find this signature runs like a thread through people close to you? I’ve done a survey of People I Have Loved (friends and lovers alike) and damn if they don’t all have Venus-Neptune. So I am not surprised at all that you found this out, Elsa!
Pepper says on 7/3/08 at 12:28 pm:

I’ve a close family member with a prominent Netpune-Venus oppostion. They’re an alcoholic — a very sweet person really who loves romantic music, especially crooners like Old Blue Eyes and Mel Torme. In fact, they create around themself an aura of all things suave, elegant and tasteful.

Thier years of infidelity never seemed to bother them either… or their unavailability to their kids. Outsiders really never even called them to task for it. They’d sort find a way to distant themself in a Neptune way… Glide away, glide away…
spinner says on 7/3/08 at 6:01 pm:

Planets in Libra says- to bootle or not to bootle? I am so tired of all the bootling today that I think I will have a bootle free day tomorrow.
Heather says on 7/3/08 at 6:29 pm:

Venus conj Neptune and unfortunately the veil has been lifted recently…not sure which transit is causing, but after 12 years of marriage, I’m just now noticing I am complete opposite of my husband. Not just he likes to stay in, I like to go out (which is true) but everything…and it’s quite distressing. I’m hoping I’ll see something we have in common, or the veil will drop and I won’t care again.
SaDiablo says on 7/3/08 at 6:34 pm:

Venus in Libra (in fourth, no less) says: But mud is so… *shudder* muddy. *distasteful face* Clean, dry, 600-count sheets, however are divine.

I have no Venus-Neptune contacts, unless Venus opposed Pisces MC counts, so I can’t understand the pining/yearning thing. If I can’t have you here, then I’m going elsewhere to someone that is here. Simple as that.
Which doesn’t mean that I don’t howl around for my love when he’s at work and I’ve got the day off. *smiles* It just means I hop on him and cuddle the second he walks in.
spinner says on 7/3/08 at 8:38 pm:

SaDiablo- What a perfect description of Venus in Libra! [I have that too.]
SaDiablo says on 7/3/08 at 9:54 pm:

Thanks, spinner! I’m just slightly above rank amateur status, so it’s nice to know I’m improving in spotting/discussing these things.
Charlotte says on 7/3/08 at 9:57 pm:

Yes yes yes. I have Venus in the 7th in Pisces and I have never had a relationship of any kind (I’m 22…at what age does this fact become pathetic?) but I am pretty sure I can out-pine and out-ache all ya’ll with one hand tied behind my back. It’s a skill.
kashmiri says on 7/3/08 at 10:20 pm:

Heather, if it’s any consolation I don’t have much in common with my SO, although we’ve been together for almost 7 years…but there are a few things, primarily psychological.
That, and we both have great butts.
kashmiri says on 7/3/08 at 10:29 pm:

Actually I shouldn’t have said that…we have more than a few things in common and I likely did him a disservice in saying so. But I subscribe in the philosophy that one relationship cannot fulfill all roles required in one’s life…so there you go. I guess it’s what’s important. For me it is:

-emotional maturity
-physical desire
-comfortable in one’s own skin
-a love of self
-expression of generosity of spirit

Sometimes I wish he’d take me dancing, but I’ll settle for at home tangos
kashmiri says on 7/3/08 at 10:31 pm:

Charlotte–never. It’s never pathetic. It’s your life and you are obviously a lovely human being! My Dad never had a ‘proper relationship’ to speak of until he met and married my mother in his 40s and I would never call him pathetic for his time on this planet before that.
SaDiablo says on 7/3/08 at 10:34 pm:

*LOL @ kashmiri* The butt comment made me spit water!

Charlotte, I think it’s only pathetic to pine for a relationship if you don’t do anything about it. There’s plenty of books, websites, etc. out there about how to put yourself in position to meet people, make connections, and find love. Something out there will strike a chord.
The strange thing about “true love” (as we Westerners conceive it) is that you don’t find it until you’re ready for it and open to it — you have to be in the right head-space to recognize it, whether it’s something you had back when, something ongoing, or something that’s not here yet.
For me, I had to work out/through a lot of emotional blockages before I could even make a tenth of the progress towards a healthy relationship. I don’t know what your situation is, but I wish you well on your journey!
Bluemarine says on 7/4/08 at 4:25 am:

I have venus trine nep natally.He has the infamous venus square, so it´s venus square synastry,plus venus parallel neptune.Neptune on the ascendant composite….unavailable for each other, he´s my hologram and my booze bottle I can´t let go.(OO, do I pine…)I´m just looking for a good dose of Saturn before it´s too late.
Heather says on 7/4/08 at 11:05 am:

Kashmiri LOL at the cute butts….sounds like you have great SO and I’m with you…I have lots of other friends that meet my needs, it just kind of makes me sad that he isn’t meeting any of them right now….except maybe the need to pine….
Snapdragon says on 7/6/08 at 2:08 pm:

can anyone tell me what that means? (Venus-Neptune)

Venus and Neptune together in the same house? Aspecting each other (or both?)
SaDiablo says on 7/7/08 at 4:04 am:

Any contact between the planets, Snap. Also if Neptune is in a Venus-ruled sign/house (Taurus-2nd or Libra-7th) or if Venus is in Pisces-12th.

I’m still learning this stuff myself, too, and I’m not sure how to assess relative strengths among the variables — is a Venus in Pisces “stronger” than a Neptune in Libra? No clue. Although I think having a planet in just the house would be weaker than having a planet in the sign would be weaker than a direct aspect between the planets. That’s my theory.
SaDiablo says on 7/7/08 at 4:10 am:

Oh! And if two planets are in the same house, they’re usually conjunct (an aspect where the planets “sit on” each other, working towards the same goal), although this can, of course, vary depending on where in the house they are and how much leeway you give to define that aspect (its “orb”).
In any case, having two planets in the same sign or house would, imo, be a pretty strong contact.