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Astrology, Happiness, Sociology And The Community On The Elsa Blog: All Boats Rise
Catch up on this series - Can Happiness Be Taught Or Trained?
Charlotte wrote on Can Happiness Be Taught? Learned? Trained?
“There are a lot of happy people on this blog, it’s just the general theme and mood of the comments and entries, which just confirms that like attracts like…”
I have been thinking about this since yesterday and while I agree with Charlotte, I think there is another angle, or more succinctly there is a separate phenomena that goes on here that cannot be stopped because it’s actually a law of nature.
Like definitely attracts like. I am happy, other people who are happy show up here and we validate each other. It’s very similar to how dissatisfied women get together and bitch about their men.
“Men are lousy… well yes they are,” and that’s that. That’s the bond.
But after 24 hours of stewing I have to come on here and say that I believe in the concept, “all boats rise.” When the tide is high… when it comes in, all the boats in the harbor rise. They just do. It is not 3 out of 4 boats that rise, it is ALL the boats that rise, some more than others dependent on how heavy they are or how buoyant the individual vessel.
It is for this reason depressed people can benefit from this blog. The tide is coming in all the time around here and if you hang around you will be buoyed very similar to the opposition situation… if you hang around bitching people, you will soon be bitching yourself.
19 Responses to “Astrology, Happiness, Sociology And The Community On The Elsa Blog: All Boats Rise”
Absolutely whole heartedly agree! And the happier I get (I have some depressive tendencies) then the more I notice when other people start bitching and I know to back away. I saw this a lot last year being back in the classroom. I liked my kids and I thought they were interesting…a lot of teachers couldn’t stand their students and constantly talked bad about them. The more I defended them, the more I was attacked. There was something wrong with me, but the truth was the more I liked my kids and listened to them, the better they were for me and the quality of their work went up. Strange huh! You and the people on this blog always buoy me up.
I can attest to what you say Elsa, I’m not a happy person by nature, even with all my sag and jup trine my sun. I just have way too much Saturn and Pluto going on as well. This blog has definite appeal for me. I’ve always wanted to be one of the ’shiny, happy’ people’. But I don’t think you are all out annoyingly happy, because that can really grate on ones nerves, whoever you are. I do read some blogs like that, it’s nice to know people are happy and all, but I can’t go there if I’m not in the mood. I’m always in the mood to read here.
I’m definitely a better person for the time I’ve spent on your blog(s). I’ve learnt a lot and my boat has risen fer sure.
I had my mood up by around 10:30am. I made a decision that I wasn’t going to say anything more to anyone, unless I could be more cheerful about it. I then took a flower essence that helped to lift my spirits. My mood may sink again over certain circumstances, but I’m in better shape now that Saturn is moving away from a few personal planets.
I’m generally more happy than sad, so I hate it when I can’t find a balance there. I normally don’t talk about anything that depresses me - I don’t like to bring others down, or to give more energy than is necessary to whatever is going on. It seems that transiting Jupiter squaring my Mercury from the 3rd, could have been helping things along - I had Saturn hitting Moon, Venus, Nodes and Mars in harsh aspects, along with a sextile to my Uranus/ascendant, and something just uncorked in me.
Oh, and like I said in another comment the other day: I really enjoy your community here - the comments from those who responded to your request for superficial chatter, made me laugh too 
and I like your attitude.
I’ve struggled with depression on and off over the years. People can and do pull me down, most especially at work. My sense of humor has been my saving grace.
My personal experience with people who are super happy all the time is that I either think they are dumb or fake. I just really don’t want one mood all the time, I want to be the entire rainbow of emotions. I just think that is more authentic.
I love that boat metaphor and I certainly hope that applies here. I’m one to be really affected by other people’s moods so your blog should be helpful to me…but sometimes other people’s happiness just seems to be “rubbing it in” instead of actually being absorbed by me.
I’m pretty certain that I’ll never be a shiny happy person, some people are just born moody, others were born smiling…you see, I was born in Moon on the ascendant, you Elsa were born with Jupiter on the ascendant. Makes sense 
“Elsa were born with Jupiter on the ascendant.”
joana, yeah it makes sense but I was born with a fuck of a lot more than that and if you think I have an easy life (or ever have) that is a supreme delusion.
I am not attacking you, I just don’t know any other way to say this.
I think I like Elsa’s version of happiness. She’s real about it. You, Elsa, (not sure why I’m writing about you in third person), are real about it.
But like everyone else is saying, “fake happy” is just annoying.
There are pics of me as a kid - like age 5 - staring off with this furrowed brow and this mass of curly ringlets. I was always thinking very deeply about something (to the dismay of my Gemini mother). To this day, I am always thinking deeply about something, but I’m learning - right here - that that doesn’t mean I can’t also be happy.
I think for years, I thought happiness was “surface” and it’s not; Elsa’s been proof of that.
I just read an interview with actress Emma Thompson and when asked “What is the quality you like most in a woman,” she said “Ability to laugh in the face of disaster.”
I’m definitely attracted to people who are deep, but happy - and I’m learning from them.
Elsa, I’m not by any means saying it’s easy/easier for you because of Jupiter or anything else. But I was thinking about the previous post and how AMF described you as happy and how I could identify with him, with his Venus and such.
Plus I have Jupiter trine my Ascendant and Moon and that doesn’t make it easier for me to be happy neither so..bummer.
Joana, how did you know that, do you have Elsa’s chart…Elsa, if your chart is on this blog, I have not seen it
Anyway, I wanted to make another comment, which is (maybe linked to getting older) I don’t see anything wrong with feeling ‘neutral.’ For whatever reason, I have never been the type of person to walk around smiling, but it is not uncommon that some stranger will look at me and say, “Smile!” That has always happened and it annoys the hell out of me actually. =glares=
I get it joana. I have definite access to joy. But when I get even a whiff of the idea someone thinks I have it made… well I almost feel a responsibility to correct the perception even if the effort is futile anyway.
If people reading here knew the facts I assure you they would have a very hard time getting their jaws off the floor.
Thankfully (for everyone involved) the universe has provided a extremely effective smoke screen.
Loonsounds - no, I don’t have Elsa’s chart but it’s one of those things that you pick from reading posts, sometimes she lets information slip hehe just kidding.
Elsa - And people don’t even want the facts, do they? They want the smoke screen to reflect them.
The question for me is, how do you NOT soak up EVERYBODY ELSE”S anxiety and unhappiness? Especially if you love ‘em.. I have always had that problem.. except now, as I wind my way through this thing called middle age…I’m learning to detach.. detach…detach. I have Jupiter in Aquarius, 4th house. Alas, Saturn’s also in my 4th.. this must explain my some of my dilemma.
Yes different boats have different draughts, beams, displacements and balasts. This is a good place to come whatever the floatation. Did yu know about the Bow wave of boats Elsa? The bow wave is pushed up by the front of the boat. The bow wave appears to be travelling in front of the actual boat. As the boat moves through the water the wave is a kind of precursor to its direction. In my mind the bow is a visual for precognition and intuition. Perhaps we all have bow waves pushing up?
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Maureen, I don’t know the answer to your question, except when I severely depressed my Dad used to say ‘Nothing lasts forever’ as well as ‘It’s a great life if you don’t weaken’ almost every day to me and it would make me so angry I wanted to knock him out.
Which, in hindsight, is a good thing I was able to feel anything.
Now that I am not depressed, and instead just highly emotional, I appreciate his words of wisdom. And in fact when he became depressed for the fist time in his life when he was 79, I said the same words back to him, along with ‘Do you believe this or no?’
Kashmiri, I so relate. Maybe happiness (even the highly emotional kind) gives us compassion, and the courage to detach too. Hmm.
What I get from this blog (among other things) is how people buoy each other up. There is a tendency to be supportive when someone is having a rough go of it.
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i learned a long time ago where i spend my time impacts how i feel tremendously. but i also believe being content is my natural state, and when i’m not, i feel out of balance and “wrong.”
and i don’t know the origin of happiness, but i know that you, e., are living proof it doesn’t magically appear from a warm, fuzzy and happy childhood or absence of intensely difficult, painful experiences.
as my husband said to me many years ago, sometimes seeds that fall on the rocks flower beautifully nonetheless.