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Nervous Disposition Redux… Do You Feel Pressure To Fix Yourself?
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I noticed I felt relieved when the soldier told me I was not fit to go on an ambush and it reminded me of something he told me on the phone back in 2003. We were talking about self-defense for women and he told me if he were teaching me to defend myself he would have me use my legs for sure.
He explained that you should utilize your strengths and this is when he reminded me I used to routinely beat him in leg wrestling when we were kids. He now denies this but at the time he said he’d always remembered how strong my legs were so any plan of self defense that he would design for me would involve my legs.
Now here’s the thing: I like this idea of doing the thing you are good at and allowing someone else to do the thing they are good at. People complement each other and this appeals to my Libra parts. However that same Libra sees the other side:
Some people are very motivated to overcome their deficits. Take the person who is afraid to speak in public but becomes a great orator anyway. And there are clearly situations where the universe seems to pressure an individual and I am not one of this group.
I feel very little pressure to get my ducks in a row and even when I am pressured, I only respond about 10% of the time. I respond when the thing is important to me as opposed to important to others but what do you think?
Astrology is full of stories of people with hard aspects to Saturn who wind up mastering the thing whatever it is. The soldier is a prime example with his Mars square Saturn. He became the best soldier in the world - is that enough achievement for ya? I could make a case for either but wonder what others think.
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What!? Only 20%? Maybe it’s about how you construe weakness, but I think you should make at least a passing effort. Two of weaknesses are being blunt and miserly, and working to make improvements against both has expanded my life for sure. Similarly, I suck at math and have always had an awful time with languages. Both are useful skills and improving both or either is hardly going to be a detriment to the ease with which I read or travel. In fact, math and reading are both exercises in symbol recognition, so one ought to improve the other, and a second language well thats twice as many people I can ask for restaurant recommendations n’est ce pas?
Foxxy - Actually I said 10% not 20% and it may be 8%. Part of the reason may be stubbornness but it is just as likely the reason is I constantly attract people who want to control and contain me… remake me in their image and i have learned to discern.
For example I really don’t want to marry a dentist - don’t care how many people think this would be best for me.
i say use your energy efficiently. if the lack of something is making you miserable, learn how to get around it, either by studying up on it, or evolving mechanisms to do what you need to without falling into an arena where’ you’re not competent.
i think both approaches are necessary at times. trying to do what you’re not good at is just a waste of energy and a source of frustration sometimes. and sometimes you can learn and it is worth the effort.
i look at it on a case by case basis.
Look, I may decide to work on some of my weaknesses if I so choose, but I can’t stand this idea that we should all be the best at everything. I’m not talking about you, Elsa, because I know you weren’t saying that. But how about people just accept their limitations and value their strengths for a change? And how about we learn to stop judging others for their petty short-comings?
Example: I can’t carry a whole lot without messing up my back. My body is just not built that way. I don’t want to do weight training. Who cares? Not me.
Saturn square Sun. Always working on myself.
A dentist elsa?
Yeah, a dentist. It’s an old line of mine… I have been yelling at men for years:
“If you want someone safe, go get a dental hygienist why don’t ya? There! No one will be threatened and you won’t have all these problems!”
so dentist is the counterpart…
er… this is elsa-code, I forget people don’t speak it.
Sheesh.
I thought that people should shore up their weaknesses until the past month has passed and specifically the last 48 hours. Because my weaknesses have been highlighted in major ways recently and I am so f*cking tired of feeling bad about myself because of them.
So I am completely inspired by this idea that you don’t *have* to. It’s so simple but like a news flash to me and it makes me feel relief and relaaaaxed.
haha, I don’t know, I always feel very threatened at the dentists!!
I’ve got Saturn aspecting all the personal planets my chart, so all I know how to do is work at improving myself. But it’s internally motivated, not b/c I feel external pressure. In the face of external pressure I often shut down due to panic or stubbornness.
Saturn–oh that thorn in my side, full of squares and oppositions.
One book I have says that if someone can master their Moon square Saturn, it can possibly be the most profound aspect in any chart. Forcing someone to rise above and beyond. This is the philosophy I am trying to follow, hoping there will be great rewards and realizations at the end of this rocky mental road. I’m looking forward to it
a little of both, really, is how i feel. as an example, i have saturn in pisces in the 7th. one of my weaknesses is a tendency to give until it hurts for some relationships or in some situations. i can overdo, and mesh with the person or situation, totally making it my own. not usually helpful…with a strong mercury in my natal chart, giving is quite natural for me, but when i don’t discriminate, this gets me into trouble.
i’ve worked on being more thoughtful about whom and how i direct this energy, so that’s shored up imo, and i take opportunities to feel good about the stuff i do for others that DOES feel good and helpful. that’s accentuating my strengths.
I voted on “do what we’re best at” but wish I could have split the vote…and I don’t even have the Libra, lol.
There are times when I’m thrilled with the things I do best, and times when I’m convinced that my weaknesses are too much to overcome the strengths. When one of your weaknesses is the utter inability to handle personal finances, it can get a bit hairy!
And then there’s the whole idea of letting other people have control over your life, which is what you have to do in order to let them “shore up your weaknesses.” Yeah, I’m terrible at keeping track of the checkbook, but when I try to turn it over to someone who’s good at it, then I chafe under the restrictions. (No Libra, but plenty of Aquarius, you’ll note.)
Sigh Some kind of lesson, I’m sure, dammit.
Laura–I’d looove to do your finances! It’s a hobby of mine…….no, really, it is.
Thanks, Shell!! What a kind offer…
…but you’ll tell me I can’t have Pei Wei takeout five nights a week, that I need to actually find out how to turn on my oven, that new shoes are not considered deductible as medical expenses (retail therapy, ya know.) Then I’ll sulk and pout.
I’m trying to get better, honest
Oh okay, I see where your problem is…not so much with getting the bills out on time eh? Just a bad case of overspending. I don’t blame ya. I had a bad case of retail therapy the first time my hubby went to Iraq. I had to snap out of it real quick because for one, it’s not like me; and two, it felt like being a meth addict or something (for me at least). I would buy a whole bunch of things and it felt soooo good, then I’d get home and literally be on the verge of puking…lol. I’d return things, then with the money I got back from the return I’d start puting things in my cart and before I knew it…I spent more than what I came in with. Viscious cycle. That was totally out of my element…now I’m back to “Frugal Fabulous”!
Good Luck
I have libra. My life is one self fix after another.
Yes, I’m always fixing myself. Primarily because I don’t like the restrictions that come with not fixing myself. To me fixing myself equals FREEDOM. I accept that I may never become great at something, but I want to be good enough to not have the problem anymore.
Laura’s comment totally resonates here. One of the best parts about fixing yourself is that you get freedom!! Freedom that you can give to yourself. Freedom from having the problem and its frustrations, from asking for help because of the problem, from being controlled as a result of asking for help, and finally the freedom to do it the way you like as much as you like whenever you want to!!!
For me, it usually goes like this: problems => restrictions => pressure to fix problems => freedom from problems. I don’t think I would choose this route if it didn’t show up in my chart though. It certainly is a lot easier to just get around the problem but for me it never happens that way. The problems always hit in an area that is important and unavoidable. Saturn just sucks sometimes
Ana, you put that much better than I could have. Looking at your own chart, what do you see as the difference between “fixing” squares, oppositions, uncomfortable conjunctions, and inconjuncts? They say squares can’t really be fixed, and that oppositions need to be fixed via interaction with others…have you noticed a difference in your personal experience?
I voted do what you’re good at. I think the American drive to be perfect in all aspects is one reason why we, as a culture, are so stressed out.
Ana sez: ” … and finally the freedom to do it the way you like as much as you like whenever you want to!!!”
Ha! Man, I learned that lesson as a child and never looked back (Sun-Saturn, I got it early). My problem with this situation stems from the fact that because of that Sun-Saturn I am constantly pressured to line my ducks up and if I dont want to? Well. Mars-Pluto blows up the room and laughs at the wreckage. Not very productive.
So I chose those things that have meaning to me, bite my tongue and bristle and snarl under my breath, and work-work-work until I’ve uncovered the pearl and everyone gets off my back. Until the next week. *sigh* And when someone tells me to the fix the unimportant things I tell ‘em to fuck off.
Laura - my squares, oppositions and uncomfortable conjunctions are all linked together in the form of a T-square so a problem with one square will affect another square and then an opposition. Likewise, fixing a problem in one square alleviates pressure in another square and it goes all the way around. I definitely see the squares as being more internal pressure: i.e. you see your own problem much better than others and put pressure on yourself to fix it. Whereas the opposition is more external: others see your problem better than you do, and they put on the pressure till you fix it. I think the opposition is much trickier because not only do you have a problem, but it usually manifests in the presence of others (because they keep showing it to you)…so you have to address a projection in addition to the original problem.
SaDiablo - me too!