Nothing Disturbs Like Disturbing A Stellium In Scorpio

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1. Aliza says on 4/13/08 at 5:23 am:
   

   Not sure if it’s my Venus in the 12th or all my Cancer planets, but I have a high tolerance for people’s stuff. Not that I wish them misery at all, but for some reason, it helps me to hear them, to listen (oh, maybe it’s my Virgo moon and Rising). I feel connected to others by listening and, if they want it, by soothing–

   My life has had its dark moments. Hearing the same from others only helps–

2. doublecappy says on 4/13/08 at 6:55 am:
   

   Aliza. I am the same. And I like what the soldier said. “A person needs to be able to talk sometime.”

   We’re all in this. No one ever really needs to be alone with their hardships, especially if they want to talk.

3. cj says on 4/13/08 at 7:01 am:
   

   friendship divides sorrow and doubles happiness

4. astrosox says on 4/13/08 at 7:12 am:
   

   i don’t mind hearing depressing things so much as hearing complaining about things that aren’t so bad when you yourself are in a vulnerable state. i’m in a situation now where someone is unloading on me with their stuff ad nauseum when they know i’ve been told by my doctor i don’t need stress and am on bed rest [high blood pressure during pregnancy].

   it’s amazing to me that in the midst of your situation you’re so concerned about disturbing others with too much information. in my situation the person i speak of *is* going through problems, but she could use some of your consideration and humility.

   i do understand, though, how some people just can’t handle it. it’s interesting–and a blessing–that you have this in common with the soldier.

5. Heather M. says on 4/13/08 at 7:27 am:
   

   It’s likely you gave these people some major perspective on their own lives. Maybe that perspective leaves them feeling like they couldn’t possibly say anything to help you.

   A person should be able to share. It’s too bad your very watery friend could not be more sensitive to you. Maybe another time.

6. Heather says on 4/13/08 at 8:58 am:
   

   No, I understand. I have a friend that when we’ve talked to much about my pain, or too much about hers (we’re both kind of in crisis right now) she’ll talk about her triathelon training. It’s kind of a signal that it’s too much and though I am not an athlete, I discuss training schedules, time splits and make plans to watch her in her half Ironman in October. A diversion we are both looking forward to.

7. joana says on 4/13/08 at 9:10 am:
   

   I have Moon cj. the Ascendant and people’s moods around me affect me immensely. I do empathize with them and I genuinely care…perhaps I care too much. People can completely ruin my day just by being in a bad mood. I think it’s more the energy that they transmit than the actual stories they tell.

8. Skye says on 4/13/08 at 9:27 am:
   

   Heavy stuff!! Glad you have the solider to revel the depths with (at least part of the way).

9. Rox says on 4/13/08 at 9:49 am:
   

   Now see for me, as a scorpio, I crave the details. They DO hurt me, but for some reason I need to feel it.. actually I need to feel everything. When I watch a movie that is painful to me in some manner, I tend to buy it & watch it over and over and over. If someone doesnt give me the details, I tend to feel like theyre not being totally honest..give me your pain kwim? Its real, its honest.

10. kashmiri says on 4/13/08 at 9:56 am:
    

    My instinctive reaction reading about Leon is being aware of how much he loves you and Mosta, and how the people around you (you Elsa and you euphemistically) really can’t hear details sometimes. Because some people know they’re witnessing a person they love living in a world of pain. They know it on every level, and the details aren’t going to aid in their assimilation of this.

    {{{Elsa}}} love and light to you. Thanks for sharing your life with us. I really do learn a lot from you.

11. Jessica says on 4/13/08 at 10:13 am:
    

    I like the saying cj posted.

    I’ve had to lay very heavy things on people in the last year and it was very shocking to me when the two people close to me started to crumble under it. They bore up in the end, but it was eye-opening when I realized that *my* problems were so poisonous they were hurting others.

    Ditto, glad you have the soldier.

12. Jessica says on 4/13/08 at 10:14 am:
    

    OH, and now that I read Aliza’s post, it’s worth mentioning that these two people who came through for me are a Cancer Sun and a Cancer moon… definitely good to have that type of water around in a crisis.

13. Elsa says on 4/13/08 at 10:21 am:
    

    kashmiri - you are right. Leon has watched me (mine) go through shit for 30 years! He wants it to stop and I guess last night when it was so clear it was not… probably never going to stop he just needed to shove up. I am telling you this did not bother me. I did not call him because I needed to talk. He called me to ask what was going on and unfortunately I didn’t have good news.

    One of Mosta’s friends called me yesterday, she wanted to know if things were better or worse. I had to tell her they were worse and have to say she bucked up very well. She is also a Scorpio… a very magical spiritual Scorpio with endless tricks of transcendence. Her mother needs information more filtered - see how this is?

    back to Leon, he was probably expecting progress - he knows how hard I try.

14. isaac j.w.c. says on 4/13/08 at 10:45 am:
    

    Having my sun, moon, mercury, Venus and mars in Scorpio(11/13/74 1:21 pm Ceveland, OH) I find I have a high tolerance for other peoples stuff most of the time, but sometimes I am so overwhelmed with my own stuff that I have no attention or energy for someone else’s stuff. I think it’s important for supper sensitive people to know when to say no…. it took me years to learn I could say no….

15. kashmiri says on 4/13/08 at 10:57 am:
    

    wow what a special little gal. I can definitely see her helping her mother in this way. It’s quite lovely actually.

16. Elsa says on 4/13/08 at 11:00 am:
    

    yeah, the little girl is in her own class. I have never met anyone like her in my life. I hope her energy gets out there somehow. I have never done anything but learn from her… and her parents are implicated. They support her and her eccentricity - you just know she’s in the right family and it’s enormously heartening.

17. kashmiri says on 4/13/08 at 11:44 am:
    

    It is!!

18. Heather says on 4/13/08 at 11:51 am:
    

    And you know she will take what she has received from knowing you and Mosta and pass it on somehow.

19. wyrdling says on 4/13/08 at 12:20 pm:
    

    anything that can disturb my scorpio stellium friend usually make me nauseous.

    glad that little scorpio’s around then. tricks of transcendence are rare gifts imo.

20. Lexie says on 4/13/08 at 12:31 pm:
    

    I’ve found that Scorpio stelliums just have a hard time dealing with anyone else’s ’stuff’, they have so much of their own. They’re not the people to go to for comfort (or so I’ve found in my own life).

21. Jennifer says on 4/13/08 at 12:37 pm:
    

    Been there…it’s hard to deal with people asking how you are doing and you have nothing whatsoever good to answer and you can’t help but be a downer. (And I have Scorpio rising, so I’m used to it.)

    I am very conscious of trying not to dump too much of me onto anyone any more. I have to hold it in because otherwise they’ll drown.

22. isaac j.w.c. says on 4/13/08 at 12:49 pm:
    

    I am pretty good with other peoples stuff, in fact I thrive on helping people solve all kinds of issues or at least listening when they need to vent, but I think that’s my Aquarius rising and Jupiter in the 1st house… All the Scorpio helps me feel all the threads deeply, but I usually offer truth as I see it, not comfort. I am not good at offering comfort if it’s not part of the reality…

    There are times when my nervous system is so overwhelmed with feeling that I can not process other peoples stuff… so it goes…

23. goddess says on 4/13/08 at 1:41 pm:
    

    i’ve worked with people in crisis, and yes, it takes a lot of energy to care about others and contain some of their pain while you’re talking to them. not everyone can do it, and people have different capacities, in general and depending upon the integrity of their own boundaries at a given time.

    i sometimes avoid news stories, documentaries, even upsetting movies, etc. for that reason. can’t always handle collective pain or suffering.

    for those that can tolerate the waves, it’s a rare gift for those who need it. it also grows the giver.

24. Elsa says on 4/13/08 at 2:05 pm:
    

    goddess - I question which person is the giver. I feel like I am giving when I share my life. It’s not just anybody I am going to tell my stories to. I think my inner circle is very fortunate as they have access to extraordinary things and information but they don’t have to live it.

25. Shaina says on 4/13/08 at 3:16 pm:
    

    Damn.

    On the other hand, the one Scorpio stellium I know is like that too. Sometimes he can take it all and sometimes none.

26. max says on 4/14/08 at 3:15 am:
    

    People can’t take, they don’t want to hear anything you say. They want to be protected from that.”

    I have moon in Taurus! So I gotta ‘Can Listen to Anything’ card!

    max
    [’Yeah, ok, so then what?’]

27. Rox says on 4/14/08 at 7:35 am:
    

    Mine is Sun, Mercury and Neptune in Scorp/7th. I can relate to that little girl Elsa, when youre super sensitive to everything that happens, not only to you but to everyone (for example, I can read a news item about someone that I dont know that will rock me to my core) you HAVE to come up with ways to transcend AND be creative about it. Because what works today, may not work tomorrow. And tomorrow always comes yk?

28. goddess says on 4/14/08 at 12:14 pm:
    

    “I question which person is the giver. I feel like I am giving when I share my life. ”

    oh, absolutely, it’s giving on both sides. in this context, i was speaking specifically of the gift of being able to contain the blunt force of someone else’s trauma, so i identified the listener as the “giver” of the gift. but i agree.
    i would be the first to say that as a listener, i absolutely have gotten as much or more than i gave from the situations i’ve come across.

29. Ana says on 4/14/08 at 9:19 pm:
    

    Yes, sharing your life with others is a gift. It’s a privilege when someone trusts you enough to open up like that and share their ’stuff’.

30. Michele says on 5/29/08 at 9:37 pm:
    

    I also have my Moon in Taurus, is that what that means max? (can listen to anything) Does Sun, Venus and Neptune in Scorpio add to that in any way?
    I have noticed that I am a good listener, and somewhere along the way, when people start to talk to me about their problems, I have learned to ask them how they feel about it(instead of just jumping in with my take). (I probably sound like a shrink!) BUT, most times I get a different response than I expected, and it really gets the other person to open up, and release all those pent-up emotions…

    p.s. liked your post Elsa, I have a friend that likes to hear my problems because she says she learns from listening to me

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