Astrology, Destiny And Your Roll Of The Dice

17 Responses to “Astrology, Destiny And Your Roll Of The Dice”

1. Tam says on 4/1/08 at 9:57 am:
   

   Forgive my astrology ignorance, but I feel like my chiron is my destiny. It’s my personal contribution to this time and place.

   Elsa if you didn’t have the experiences that you have maybe you wouldn’t be able to help people the way that you do. Just a thought.

2. seekingzen says on 4/1/08 at 10:19 am:
   

   I don’t, and I can’t see it in my chart. Since I’m so cardinal, with Cap, and therefore a complete control freak, I think this may be for the best.

3. Becca says on 4/1/08 at 10:50 am:
   

   I don’t and can’t see it in my chart either. Incidentally, I’m also heavily cardinal, with Libra.

4. satori says on 4/1/08 at 11:13 am:
   

   from your wiki link:
   A joke exists in which three blind elephants argue what a man looks like. The first one feels the man with his leg, and says that the man is flat. The other elephants touch the man as well, and agree.

   bahahaha!

5. satori says on 4/1/08 at 11:22 am:
   

   I guess for me astrology helps me in reading the landed dice. I get off base when I try to predict how they will land.

6. satori says on 4/1/08 at 11:30 am:
   

   if anyone’s interested, a related allegory:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave

7. nycgirl says on 4/1/08 at 12:25 pm:
   

   I have always had my own sense of destiny in terms of what I feel I want to do. And through astrology, yes, others have confirmed this. But what has blown me away much more about astrology is how it has focused in, so precisely and minutely, on shades of feeling and ways of being that otherwise were these completely obtuse, bumbling blurs of behavior, some of which help me, and others of which screw me royally. But without the help of astrology, I would be nowhere near as acutely aware of them.

8. Sally Sun says on 4/1/08 at 2:05 pm:
   

   Tam, yes! Chiron is key, literally, for me too. Chiron in Taurus in 8th–sexual healer and teacher. That’s me.

   I do think looking at charts of a loved one’s, clients, your own etc is very illuminating. You get a real sense of the wound they may be carrying around with them- but also, their gifts.

9. Jennifer says on 4/1/08 at 2:40 pm:
   

   I see that my life is meant to be difficult…T-square and grand trine with Saturn at the point of each.

10. Alma says on 4/1/08 at 4:46 pm:
    

    Hmmm…I have a cardinal T-square, Uranus (1st), Saturn (10th), Moon/Jupiter (7th). I think I need to pour my energies into the Saturn/10th house area for a while, and forgo the relationship drama.
    The T-square does make life interesting though.
    Chiron in Aries in 7th house…not sure about that yet.

11. wyrdling says on 4/1/08 at 5:19 pm:
    

    can’t tell you. i swear i have a cognitive disconnect on it. too many people trying their damndest to get me to do what they want me to do, starting when i was a kid.
    and many days i just want to hole up on 40 acres on a mountain with a garden and paint.

    but you didn’t ask what i wanted.
    honestly i’m scared. and what i do see makes zero sense to me from where i’m standing so i’m aiming towards just figuring out how to be myself and get done what needs doing and not worry too much about the rest until i can see it more clearly.

12. Lexie says on 4/1/08 at 6:58 pm:
    

    I always felt a sense of destiny. Having precog. dreams tends to intensify this feeling. And there are far too many ‘coincidences’ in my daily life to even qualify as coincidences. I don’t typically share what I feel about myself, of course, because everyone in the world feels like they’re something different, something special, and it always sounds a bit silly to me. It’s like the girl who screams, “I’M UNIQUE!” and doesn’t realize that everyone is unique, therefore only looping her back into the crowd. So yes, I’ve just shared my conflicting opinions on your very simple question and basically gave you no substantial answer. Yay me.

13. kashmiri says on 4/2/08 at 12:11 am:
    

    lexie, that was good….if only that I realized someone has the same conflicting sense of things as myself.

14. kashmiri says on 4/2/08 at 12:11 am:
    

    fuck does my sentence even make sense? here’s to commenting when dog-tired

15. Ana says on 4/2/08 at 6:40 pm:
    

    yes…I can see it now. Thanks for showing this to me Elsa!

16. Loonsounds says on 4/5/08 at 11:34 pm:
    

    I am interested in looking into what people are saying about Chiron (entries above) as being the key to the soul purpose/destiny path.

    As far as what I have seen re: this issue, it has moreoften been along the lines of soul purpose/destiny path strongly shown in the nodes of the moon, their placement by sign and house; and N. Node representing where we would be well served in moving toward in this life, and the S. Node old habit patterns we fall back on or which lure us back frequently (familiar old stuff from other lifetimes or whatever) but which we should be rather vigilently move away from as the alleged time wasters and/or interferences in our siritual quests.

    Looking at my N. Node in Sagitarius on the cusp of the 10th house at 28 degrees with Pallas Athena and the point of fortune, and S. Node in Gemini on the cusp of the 4th, I feel that I am supposed to aim for getting out in the world more than I do nowadays, and for getting my ideas out in the world (10th house being social/career/ extrovet. Someone even mentioned ‘developing an area of expertise or some authority in a field as being with N. Node in 10. North node in the 4th house is supposedly more about the home and the mother and the other usual forth house significations, and, quite possibly, a more introverted type of placement.

    This makes a lot of sense to me. I have Mother Karma issues thru the sky, and I feel I am better served to move away from those issues (and even away from where she lives in person) and get away from this tight interlinking with her life. In history I do “keep comin’ back to be around (and, apprently,to bitch about, my issues ith) none other than Mom! (S. Node you bully!) Plans are currently in the work as i write to move from the SE quadrant of the US to the Pacific Northwest quadrant of the US, so…hopefully, I am pulling out of the most recent 3 year ‘relapse to living 20 minutes from mom.’

    Then, at to the signs for the Nodes. With N. Node in Sag, and S. in Gemini, I should focus more on issues such as development and practice of Faith in whatever form [over fact and knowledge accumulation and assimilation]. I am good at that part. I should also develop wider (macro-social; I just made that up) networks [versus closer-in more micro-social networks like neighboorhood stuff, sibling stuff, family stuff and the like], and,

    I forgot what else, but i will be back! Interesting thread!

    Elsa, is there an index or somethning to see if you’ve posted any stuff on the Nodes? I have spent a LOT of time in your archives and, off hand, I don’t remember seeing you talking much about the nodes. Perhaps, some day, would you consider doing that, or more of it? Many thanks!

17. Elsa says on 4/6/08 at 2:33 am:
    

    Loonsounds - you can use search and then there is a tag - nodes. But in this case I have posted enough on the nodes there is a tag that shows up in the cloud (I think just the top 300 tags are there) so just click “tags” on the right and then fine “nodes” in the list there.

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