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Waking Up The Repressed Mars In This Culture: Comments On The Columbine High School Massacre
Astrology in real life
Deirdre writes on the Repulsive / Circle of Friends blog:
“Focusing on the killing aspect part of the soldier, I thought you were practicing a kind of provocative way of writing. I liked reading today about the soldier’s standards of excellence and how inspiring it is to be around him. That is a turn on if there ever was one.
As a kid I used to step on spiders but later in life discovered the principal of kindly escorting spiders to the garden without ending their life.”
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“…So when it comes to killing it feels there is a little piece I am avoiding and that is recognizing that if someone is crazy and after my kid, and Special Forces has gone to lunch, what do I do. Do I escort the spider to the garden? I have Pluto in the 8th, and your comments about the killer and his excellence and not becoming hysterical in the task, I think I get you Elsa, I do. Do you?”
Deirdre - you get me loud and clear. And yes I am purposefully provocative so that you get me loud and clear. For example on the “Is That Your Mom’s Gun” blog I used the soldier’s language:
“I was there by myself but then we got to the part where you have to actually use the gun. You have to shoot at a target so I took out my little gun and of course all mine were head shots. All of them, every single shot was right through the head.”
And it provoked this comment from Sonia:
I really hate all this “headshot” macho crap..
Which allowed me to say this:
Sonia - That’s fine until some bastard is shooting children in their high school library, and armed to the teeth. At that point let’s hope someone can make a head shot.
And my premise here, or my agenda is to wake up the repressed Mars in this culture. You might say it’s my mission. Someone has GOT to be able to make a head shot or we are at the mercy in this day and age of any 16 year old with a gun.
I live in Colorado, land of the Columbine High School massacre. Please someone shoot these kids, you know? Shoot them before they kill 5 more kids, 6 more kids, 12 or 20 more kids. And this is ugly. Shooting a kid is ugly but someone better damned be willing and able to do it or we are in big, big trouble.
We have discussed this before. If the soldier was on one of those planes on 9/11 it would have been a different story and that’s a fact. He is trained to ACT. He would have reacted to his training in one of those situations and there is no way the plane he was on would have crashed.
I just don’t understand people who think you can cut “Mars” out of life and have it all be okay. Raw male energy exists in nature so someone with a lot of it who is willing to use theirs to protect those of us who are repulsed (I have Libra) is going to be highly prized by me because it’s very simple: I don’t want to shoot a 16 year old in the head. I also don’t want a 16 year old to be able to go into a school and kill a 100 innocent children because no one has the courage to act.
Act. Mars. Please, says Libra. Please do my dirty work so I can live in peace.
Thanks, Deirdre. For helping me get this out.
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“Please do my dirty work so I can live in peace.”
Amen. I have a lot of Libra, and I can’t help reasoning that any soldier plays a part, directly or indirectly, in waging war and therefore killing people. And as a society (more or less, regardless of your voting party) we send soldiers to war. So a highly trained Special Forces soldier who actually gets his/her own hands bloody… is somehow less moral? because they make head shots? Not in my world view. Thank God for all those who have the courage to protect us.
It’s part of our human make-up to admire those who can protect us! If they can do so morally, that’s even better! The soldier cannot but help being attractive to the ladies (as Elsa has pointed out to him) because of his protective nature. I would NOT want to be on his bad side, however.
the maternal instinct is a pretty darn fierce female mars too. i don’t get why people think only men can be aggressive.
stupid culture, is what.
i’d never want to have to kill another human being but if it was a child in danger i’m just not sure i’d stop to think about that.
but i don’t have that training.
Right wyrdling. So we’re standing there… mothers / girls and as we hesitate another five kids get shot.
And then what? We hesitate some more. Probably. Many of us probably would. People will fight back but when? Personally, I think I would be waiting for that shot to ring out from the back of the room. The hero head shot - Aries.
Er… I want UNDERDOG damnit!
so girls should start learning how to shoot, too.
i know a lot of women who do, actually. probably the subgroup i spend time in.
but people keep telling me how much it cracks your head to know how to shoot a gun and i’m like “well, sure. but i can’t depend on someone else to take care of me, can i?”
should i?
it’s an aries/pisces debate in my head.
I don’t know, I have a lot of Pisces and Neptune but I also have a strong eight house and a masculine mars conjunct mercury.
I think a lot of what we would rather happen is seen in hindsight. What if someone had killed those kids before they got a chance to kill the other, innocent, kids. How would we feel then? I’ve been a protector throughout my life and can’t even imagine hurting someone physically unless someone else was in direct danger, but that still doesn’t guarantee that I’ll do it even then so I am glad for the Aries types that can and will and do, do this. But I can’t say it sits easy with me even though I appreciate it. Life is so hard (says Pluto in Libra) and has too many damn choices.
I get your point, but I agree with sonia about the macho crap. Of course we need protection and soldiers and police should be well trained and capable and willing to fight(and I know the soldier is all of that), but I still think ‘going for head shots only’ is macho crap, not a sign of prowess. What would happen if police/ soldiers would go for head shots only? Pretty ineffective. I think that’s what sonia is repelled by (I know I am) - not the suggestion that a soldier is perfectly capable and WILL fire a headshot if needed, but that a soldier (or anyone) would fire headshots when it’s not needed, and seems to enjoy it too. The soldier’s language does not show restraint of but rather pride in his killer instinct, and although I am sure his actions do - that is what is scary.
I do think Europeans in general have different feelings about guns and self-protection than Americans. As a European I would argue that the fact that children have access to guns in the first place, or that access to guns in general is so accepted is contorted, and a decent gun law would help far more than more killers to kill the killers. We have similar Mars problems but with knives it is not as lethal as with guns.
Talk about activating Mars out of hibernation. Mars, supposedly in its fall in Pisces, but ruling Aries - that was going down yesterday, as the Sun moved from 29° Pisces, to 0° Aries, I feel we moved a ton of Energy. Wild. Thanks too, Elsa and Everyone.
This morning I was reading a bit in Toronto’s edition of the Metro about the Omar Khadr trial, specifically it was “A U.S. Army Officer was going to have Omar Khadr executed after a July 2002 firefight in Afghanistan . . stopped by Special Forces troops.”
And thats the other side of the Macho stuff isn’t it? Having the balls to step in and stop the shooting too.
I don’t think you can do anything but appreciate the soldier’s prowess.
Does our society, as a whole, really have a repressed mars? I feel as if violence is worshipped in our society. As is aggression. It feels to me like we are a war-like society. Having lived in other cultures I am always shocked to return home to the violent language and culture that we live in.
Is that really a repressed mars? I am confused.
mud: I agree…I am confused completely about the idea american society having a repressed Mars. It seems pretty able to express it…guns? war? prisons? death penalty?
Elsa are you talking ‘repression’ because of the extreme (and in some people’s minds, perverse) expressions of mars/violence?
Aries Stellium with Saturn contacts here. The distinction is about using violence responsibly. American culture worships a kind of fantasy violence that substitutes for people feeling empowered to act aggressively — and constructively, and productively — in their daily lives. Hence violent video games, movies, etc. while we conceal from ourselves the routine, necessary violence of daily life, such as slaughtering animals for meat (”ew, gross…”). Men, I think, feel this loss of personal power more acutely than women in consumer culture.
Another thing: Absolutely someone HAS to take the head shot when necessary, without hesitation.
I came across this and it struck me. Both parties were violent. Like violence attracts violence.
Scary situation though.
http://www.reason.com/news/show/125538.html