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1 Minute Astrology - Fear Of Death, Suicide, Neptune In Scorpio And The 8th House
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Are you afraid to die?
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I’m very curious to see what happens on the other side. I’m not afraid of dying per se, but I am afraid of dying before my kids are adults, for two reasons:
1)What if I can’t watch over them and see how they’re doing, or worst…what if you don’t remember your earthly experience once you die??
2)My husband will give them McDonalds and candy everyday if I’m not around…lol
(Really….#2 is a legitimate fear of mine if I die)
Oh yeah, and Scorpio ASC
I’m not afraid of dying, my 8th house starts in Scorpio and has Uranus in Sagittarius.
It sounds like an interesting release but I’m not contemplating suicide neither.
I do have 3 planets in Scorpio including Saturn, like you mentioned, but that doesn’t make me afraid nor obsessed with death.
Not at all.
No planets in the 8th, but Sag is on the 8th house cusp. Jupiter ruling 8th & 9th houses: No fear of death, and looking forward to what may be on the other side.
Uranus on the cusp of the 8th and Scorpio Mars/Mercury/Jupiter/Asc. It took me years to accept I had to be here and I not particularly afraid of dying either. Have no idea what comes after but refuse to worry about it either.
The deal I made with myself boils down to this: if the universe wants me to stick around, I’ll continue living and I choose to live a healthy lifestyle (as much as possible) because that’s a quality of life issue for me. But most of my life i have only had moments of a strong attachment to wanting to be here . . .
I am absolutely unafraid of dieing. I only want to be around for as long as my children or mom need me. I absolutely am in service to my fam and I dont mind at all. I dont think things improve with dieing, I just think it is part of the evolution of life.
Oh - I forgot - Neptune in Scorpio, third house. Eighth is Aries but with no planets.
I have Uranus and Venus in the 8th in Scorpio, both square jupiter.
I am not afraid of death (unless it’s a horrible physical experience) but I am afraid of not living, if that makes any sense. I am afraid of not existing and not seeing what comes next. I always attributed it to my nosiness, but I don’t know. I want to be around to the very end, I like to see things through, and death would mean I wouldn’t get to see where things go in the world, for my loved ones, for the world in general.
When other people die, what makes me saddest, even more than me missing them, is that they aren’t here to experience what the world has to offer. I’m overly empathetic to begin with, but I feel genuine physical and psychological pain when I think of these things, to the point of tears.
As for the case of suicide, I have had tendencies during my life (Uranus??) and I never though about what if what came next was worse. It’s always more, what exists now is too much to bear that something has gotta give. I know intellectually that it’s not true, we deal with things for a reason, but I’m not sure how other people view it.
At this point in my life I am looking forward to seeing family members that are dead, but I hope that it’s not for a very long time.
Lately, I am tremendously afraid of other people dying. I don’t think I can handle more than I have, even though in the larger scheme of things, it’s not that much (compared with others).
Death is a great mystery, no doubt about it. Right now I think I’d welcome it, when the time comes, as a fascinating transition to the next stage of life. I’m very curious and hopeful about it. Capricorn on 8th h cusp, with Saturn a couple degrees from it in the 7th.
My mother was a hospice nurse and told me the people who held on the longest were generally the cantankerous ones and the ones with messed up relationships. She felt they were afraid of being held to accounts or leaving problems unresolved. (The other category of those who outlived predictions were those waiting for loved ones to arrive, so they could say goodbye.) So, for me to welcome death when it comes, I think I would need to feel confident I’ve lived a good life and kept my heart open.
Many years ago my father committed suicide and I set about reading everything I could about what happens after death and reevaluating every truism I thought I believed. Most earlier cultures understood that death is truly a mystery and advised people to prepare for it all their lives. This only makes life itself on this plane more meaningful and precious. I have done this ever since. I appreciate people so much more now that I understand what it means to lose someone.
i think if you’re afraid to die, you’re also afraid to live. after all, life is one long road towards death. to me, fear of transformation causes a state worse than death- stasis. the last thing i want to be is stuck. that reads as trapped, to me.
living fully takes a lot more courage than dying. not that dying doesn’t take it’s own kind of courage, but there are many things in life worse than death and willing to risk your spirit or risk pain in order to do what you are here to do is a far more demanding task in my mind.
i’m of the uranus in scorpio generation. and i have a couple things in the eighth- namely, my sun, my venus (in tight opposition to pluto) my south node, and chiron.
i have been suicidal. because i felt trapped. and i wrestled with a great deal of self hatred when i was younger (probably due in part to the sun/south node conjunction.) which is part of why i’m so independent minded. i need to not feel trapped. which i think is part of the self’s drive for active expression- a need to be who i am. if that’s clear then what happens to me isn’t so important. so, it more stemmed from feeling like i couldn’t be myself. but, really i always can. i just have to recognize that expression of that changes based upon the needs of the situation.
besides, i don’t think one has the luxury of suicide when one has dependent children.
also, i heard my grandfather’s voice speaking to me the moment he died 900 miles away. which affects my impression of death, i imagine.
We may or may not be afraid of death in the sense of not being here anymore. But the process of dying … well, that’s another thing, yes?
What if the question was: “You are going to be put to death in two hours - are you afraid?”. Shivers…
It’s not even survival ‘instinct’, fear and fighting death are an automatic response.
I once witnessed a woman in the process of dying from cystic fibrosis. I bet the poor girl couldn’t take it any longer, but there she was sitting upright with her oxigen mask hanging on to her every breath for dear life… (no pun intended).
Mercury, Venus and Neptune in Scorpio
Maddalena - I would not like to be tortured to death but outside of that, I don’t think it would matter if I had advance notice. I am just so incredibly willing to go and I have felt this way since I was very small.
Even the torture would be tolerable. I would see a great irony in that actually. What a fine mess this is, I’d be thinking. I’d be doing the same thing I do now when bad things happen. I marvel!
Elsa - I don’t doubt what you are saying about being willing to go.
But … can you really imagine yourself in the place of someone who’s drowning in the sea?
Personally, I take consolation in the idea that probably our brains spare us the worst of the terror, that we start seeing the famous tunnels and lights at the end.
Maddalena - I am clearly romanticizing this however I am telling you, there is nothing I can do to feel differently. If I was dumped into the sea to drown I can’t imagine fighting to live. I simply cannot imagine it. Thrash around? I just don’t like it here all that much! I think my life has been damned long enough as it is. It has been incredibly long and if I could give the rest of it to someone who wanted to live a long time, I would. Gladly! Just don’t tell people who love me because they get upset and I wish they wouldn’t. I don’t know why I can’t be just the way I am and this is the way I am.
Elsa - your sex instinct works better than your survival instinct
Of course yoiu can be the way you are!
Smile and hugs
Maddalena - Maybe, maybe not. Because then I go pick a killer hero man to hang around who assure me no harm will come…
heheheee,your freudian slip is exhilarating!!
Maddalena - ha ha, I fixed that but yeah. No one better bring their dick around me, LOL.
Hee!
Elsa - Your last comment really hit close to home and touched part of me that I have not wanted to ever acknowledge. My father drowned when I was three years old and I have always been angry at him for not fighting to stay alive but when you put it in those words, it makes a lot more sense to me. I got shivers after I read it…
I just bought the movie ‘What about Bob?’ and thought of it when I read the question. I think captures ‘fear’ of living and ‘fear’ of dying in an entertaining way. The son of the therapist reminds is a kooky character for a small boy….
Cindy - goooooood. Seems to me, thrashing around makes for a violent death where release to death is bliss. You hear about these people who pass easily / calmly and this seems preferable to me by far.
This does not mean I don’t respect people who fight to live because I do. I am just not one of them!
My son has pluto/moon conjunct in scorpio in the 3rd, aries 8th house. He is now eighteen, but when he was little he went through a stage where if he was angry at me he would tell me he was going to kill himself. I realised as he got older he only did this because he knew it upset me…he was quite comfortable with the notion of death, but he knew how to punish me. Now he is a student Paramedic and works part time at the local hospital as a wardsman and sees death everyday. Some days he gets upset but the nurses tell him that they have never seen such a young man with so much compassion. Makes you feel proud!!
I can’t say that the thought of death bothers me - I’m really curious to see what’s on the other side. What does concern me is what will happen to my daughter and the other people I leave behind. What bothers me even more than that is that someone’s going to have to go through all my stuff, my e-mails, my bank accounts and credit card bills, my hidden book stash, and they’ll find out more about me than I’ve ever told anyone. My secrets are going to come out. Not that I have huge yucky dark secrets like necrophilia or anything like that, but there are things about me that I don’t care to share with anyone. EVER. (Moon/Libra in the 8th, Mars/Scorpio in the 8th).
I haven’t been able to watch the video yet, but with Mars-Venus-Pluto conjunction trine Moon in 8th I’ve always thought a lot about death. What do I think happens, what is to be done with my remains, how will I handle the death of those close to me, etc etc.
Death doesn’t bother me, everything dies (coincidentally, that song just came up on my computer *lol*). I just want to die a clean death, none of this lingering illness bullshit. I’ll gladly tread water for three days (ha!) to keep from drowning, but if I’ve got terminal cancer or COPD for Cheezesakes just let me end it - I’d prefer a Russian execution, thank you very much. Or a handful of Clonodine.
I’m not afraid of death, but I hope that I will know that I’m dying, when I am dying, so that I have at least a moment to reflect. I read that during their “dirty war” the Argentine government would drug suspected “terrorists”, take them up in a helicopter, then dump them into the ocean. That is terrifying, and truly horrible to rob someone of their last conscious moment on earth.
A great short story about death is “The Jilting of Granny Weatherall” by Katherine Anne Porter.
I have Taurus on 8th house cusp, no planets in 8th, Pluto rising.
I want to go like my grandmother. she got up sometime in the night (she was 87), got fully dressed - clothing, stockings, shoes, pearls - and got back into bed and we found her in the morning. I figure my grandma was old school and would never go to meet her maker in a nightgown. I also think she knew it was the end and was totally at peace with it.
I have Scorpio on the cusp of my 8th with Jupiter the only planet. I’ve never been afraid of death, I’ve been more curious than anything.
I would never commit suicide, although I did jump from a moving car once during a fight with my ex. His response to my injuries was “How could you do this to me?” - I think that hurt more than the bruises.
I love my life and would never volunteer to leave it, but when it’s my time, I want to go peacefully - or at least quickly. My Father died of cancer and I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. And, by the way, he is one of those who survived until my sister came up from Georgia then died very soon thereafter.
My only water planet is Uranus in Scorpio in the 3rd, I have Sun conj Chiron in Taurus in the 8th, and a Pluto 1st House. Also I have a chart packed with a lot of Neptune aspects.
Discussing life and death matters doesn’t bother me at all, I enjoy discussing it in philosophical terms.
I fully believe there is an afterlife, and death for me is a transition. I also think death is an important definer for human existence, the certainty of death we all share in makes the time we have and how we spend it in life (and who we share it with) precious, vital and meaningful. If we were immortal, life would eventually become meaningless since we’d have an eternity to experience everything.
How I react to a person’s death depends on the circumstances of that death, how and when that person died and the life that person lived, more so than the fact the person is now dead.
Also I think people commit suicide out of a sense of desperation usually accompanied by a loss of perspective.
People have been commenting on the reasons for suicide. There are many reasons for suicide, I think. I feel that most attempts, however, are nothing more than a self-pitying plea for attention.
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I may be biased because I had to clean brains out of a phone after the husband of a family friend did just that. You may think that sounds callous, but the guy was ex-military and he knew how to shoot himself to kill and how to only wound. Using a .22 and aiming through his cheek was a guaranteed wound. Leaving us to clean up his mess so his wife would cozy up to him in pity is so damned selfish I don’t know where to start.
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My own suicide attempt was motivated by a sense of despondancy from being ignored during the aftermath of my grandmother’s death.
My sister’s attempt was from being ignored as well, although I don’t know the precise event that set her off. (I was too young at the time to ask.)
Same thing with the cutting phenomenon. It’s attention-seeking.
Attention-seeking is not necessarily bad in itself, though. We as people should be able to ask for more attention if we feel ignored or un(der)appreciated. But cutting, scarring, or trying to kill oneself, well. . . that’s a rather unhealthy way of going about it, yes?
Damn! In between those brackets there should have been a GORE WARNING!
So sorry if someone reads that and gets grossed out. *ducks*
Neptune in Scorpio; 8th house Pluto in Virgo and Venus/Uranus/Mercury in Libra. I’m afraid of having no one to hold my hand in the hospital when I’m old and sick, but I’m not afraid of dying. Never have been.
I always believed in reincarnation, even as a little kid. (Sun/S node/Midheaven conj? I don’t know.)
I am not at all afraid to die, though I’ll miss my friends and family from this time around.
Neptune/Merc conj in Scorpio, 10th/11th house depending on house system. Pluto in Virgo in 8th or 9th house depending on house system. Jupiter in Virgo in 8th house. Venus in Virgo in 8th or 9th house depending on house system.
Now that I think about it, I AM SCARED about somehow being a ghost after I die, and being stuck as a ghost.
I have always been afraid of death. But I have decided that, when I can find peace with the idea of death, I will finally be O.K. I think I will have my inner peace.
Jupiter in Aries in 8th house.
Uranus in Scoprio 2nd house.
North Node in Scoprio 3rd house.
Stellium in the 8th including my scorpio sun. Jupiter in Scorpio. Im not afraid of dying. I have been deemed dead twice already in my life and was very sick last year and was given 2 years if I did not recover. Somehow im still here so Im not afraid to be here and live either. Not afraid to go not afraid to stay. Although I have and if I were again in a violent situation such a rape, being murdered, or attacked I would not hesitate to fight and live. But I think that has less to do with death and more to do with pain (for me anyway)
I’m not afraid to die, and I find the question ‘what if you were drowning’ an interesting one because I almost drowned 3 times as a child. 3 times I was pulled out of water…
One, I distinctly remember waving at my mother (who can’t swim and is afraid of water).I was actually trying to get her attention but she waved back. We were at a pool. I will remember the feeling for as long as I’m alive, and I’ll tell you, I wasn’t panicked. I thought “oh well” and down I went. I just gave up.
So, I’ve almost died in other ways too. I was suicidal about 15 years ago. I’ve lost a lot of people I love (suicide, cancer, car crashes, overdoses, you name it). I’ve been afraid of living, but not of dying…
Except the last year or so that Pluto cleared out of my 12th House and crossed my Ascendant. I actually thought I HAD died. I thought, what if I’m actually dead and just fucked up and confused??
Well I’m over it now–I’m definitely alive and will be for some time yet. I’m not going to be caught off guard, I have the pleasure of knowing that for sure. Yes, I know that for sure no, it isn’t based on rational thought so I won’t bother trying to explain. I’ve been gifted with the knowledge and that’s it.
Saturn 8th House trine Neptune 12th (Koch)
Finally got on a computer with sound so I could watch this clip. I have vivid past life memories of killing myself in various ways. There have been times in this life when those memories were nearly constantly in my awareness. Still when I feel attacked I see myself cutting my wrists instead of fighting back. I have been very depressed at times in my life but I’ve never made any actual attempt to end my life. I believe I have the self control and awareness that those urges came from a different time from the present because of my children. My family has always anchored me.
Death doesn’t frighten me but I have a lot of things to do so I don’t think I will be going any time soon. I hate going to bed at night too. It’s the same kind of don’t want to miss anything feeling I have about death as about going to sleep early.
4th house Pisces Saturn. Scorpio moon and Ascendant. 8th house Cancer Venus.
OMG, Lupa! I think having that kind of past life memory would scare the piss out of me! I am in awe of how calm you are about it - “It’s not me now, it’s me from before.” You rock, girl!
(For more reasons than this. 
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SaDiablo, the calmness wasn’t there in the beginning. I worked hard back when those memories first started surfacing to gain the calm you see now. It started with one spontaneous memory that played like a video in my head in startling clarity. Gemini curiosity combined with Scorpio morbidness - of course I went digging for more information in my subconscious.
And thank you for the compliment.
I almost choked to death on a hard caramel a few years ago. It got lodged in my throat and I couldn’t breathe; I was alone, so no one was around to help me. It felt pretty well stuck in there, but the funny thing is, once the initial wave of panic passed, I thought “I’m going to die” and then immediately “Huh, this is a funny way to go.” I wasn’t afraid of dying, even though I seriously thought I would die; all I felt was calm acceptance and ironic amusement at the means of my passing. Of course, moments later I hacked up the caramel and the whole thing became an amusing anecdote rather than a news item, thank goodness.
The lack of fear I felt stays with me, though.
Well. Gee. I got tired of the guy shoving a shotgun in my face and I told him to pull the goddamn trigger or get the goddamn gun out of my face. It had ceased to be scary and was just annoying at that point.
So, on the whole, I said I am not particularly afraid of death; I have no wish to die however, on account I have tons of shit to do. There are things to see, and stuff to find out and books to read and whatnot, and that would be a total drag to miss out.
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[’Also, there’s that Wood of Suicides problem.’]
My father died when I was very young. I lived with my grandmother all my life until she died in the house I live in now. One of the more committed thoughts I’ve had about that is that being dead has got to be an improvement over…being crippled, heartbroken, abandoned, impoverished, oppressed, in pain, confused. In Haiti eating mud cookies to keep your belly full. Gotta be.
The only thing I can’t figure out is WTF I’m still doing here. I think it has to do with my son, because I can’t leave him yet — but most of the time I think, when he doesn’t need me anymore I bet I’m done.
So I feel like you do. Death, the eternal vacation: from another Scorp neptune MC; eighth house pluto, virgo, venus and mars stel.
Nothing in my 8th house near as I can tell, and I have Uranus in Scorpio.
I also had a father die when I was too young to really know him. I’ve spent most of my life with one foot in and one foot halfway to the door… had suicidal thoughts at a very early age. Life was never something fun and lighthearted.
I am not afraid to die, but I’ve at least promised some of the people who love me that I won’t help myself along.
To me, life is far more frightening… not to mention exhausting. I may not be absolutely sure what death holds, but I can at least be sure it’ll be different.
My main focus is to make my life mean something. It will be hard to let go until that happens. Hence my comment to the Titanic thread: “Oh, hey, chance to sacrifice my life for others! Instant meaningfulness! Just add water!” (Lots and lots of water…)
My neptune in Scopio 11th house and I have uranus pluto conjunct in 8th house. I’m not afraid of dying as it will be release from this painful life. The only question is how can I stop it if it is written in the sky. I’m very compelled at this moment in time… thinking about death.
I am very interested in the topic of death, both personally and professionally. My ‘biggie’ research project is linked to the field, and the title is “suicide and longevity in Vedic astrology.” I have over 800 cases now (200 are control group), and a couple hundred are suicide, a certain percentage is suicide/murder, and the remainder are ‘longevity’ (lived to be over 80 years and died of natural causes). I am comparing and contrasting these charts using quantitative statistics. It is a massive undertaking and I am working with the International research organization to get parts of my findings (which are fascinating!) published.
So, that is Vedic astro., but I also love Western astrology. This chart seems western so when I mention anything of my own charts and aspects (or anyone elses) I am using western. I have the late degrees of Pisces rising and Saturn in Scorpio in the 8th house with Pluto in Leo in the 6th, and then Sun conjunct Mercury in Taurus in the 2nd, with Venus in the first house. I also have a tight Jupiter/Uranus conjunction in Cancer in the 5th, with Uranus ruling my 12th.
I used to be terrified at the thought of death. Then I had a MAJOR spiritual awakening in the year 2000 following a series of vast shocks (y’all remember, fixed planet line-ups of that year, and eclipses of the year before, and the Taurus stampede?)
Ever since then, my fear of my own death disappeared totally. Not only that, I do some hospice work now and right now I am helping a good friend how has been FIGHTING so hard to stay alive (she is officially considered a long term survivor with the type of brain cancer she has, she has survived 2 years and 2 months post diagnosis). she is 56 years old and you would not believe what all she has fought through and still wanted to be alive (she has several planets including the sun in scorpio). I think her time is almost up now, and I am praying for her acceptance surrender and that she will be blessed with a spiritual awakening.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for the topic!
I’m not afraid of death, but I’m also not ready to let go of life just yet….too much of the world that I haven’t touched yet!
As far as suicide, when I was a child I remember someone telling me that people who seriously are ready to die don’t “attempt” suicide, and they don’t talk about it beforehand. They get it done, because they’re done.
Me, I’m too stubborn and determined to experience, death sounds boring to me.
If I were the one drowning in the sea, I’d be in the water floating, doing my damndest to keep breathing, and checking out the sea life to determine if I was about to become lunch. Oh yeah, and praying for a friendly dolphin or fishing boat. Go figure.
Elsa,
I love the topics on your 1 minute astrology.
I have Neptune in Scorpio, of course, and so do a lot of other people, but mine just happens to be in the 12th house. Spirituality, for me started as a little girl through my Catholic upbringing and was the foundation to my current beliefs. I’ve always been interested in the non physical and in developing a relationship with that area in my life. Even though I have a Sag rising and Jupiter conj my sun in the 10th, I must have solace and time for reflection. People tend to see me as extroverted, but I am very introspective and keep many of my thoughts, perceptions, and feelings to myself. On the topic of death, I have always been interested in the “after life” and its mysteries. I keep saying, ” I can’t wait to go home”!
I believe, like many others, that it is transitional into something else, “source energy”, if you will, and it will be grand, I’m sure”!!
This whole topic gives me so much to think about.
Scared shitless of death. My chart’s all about Saturn. I’m going to fight til the bitter end.
I don’t want to think about my dying or my loved ones dying. Deep down I know it will happen one day but not yet please. I have too much to do and see first.
Saturn in Sadge in the 8th house.
Scorpio in Neptune in the 7th house.
Pluto trine Ascendant.
Venus opposite Pluto.
Neptune Sextile Pluto.
Moon Quincunx Pluto.
Pluto in Leo in the 4th house.
My son drives me crazy with his near death experiences. I am forced to acknowledge his mortality on a regular basis and I reeeaaally don’t want to. He has Moon, Mercury, Venus AND Pluto all in Scorpio in the 8th house!